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    Only a few months ago most of you were worshipping the ground they walked on.

    What happened? How changeable you are!
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    Its pretty obvious isn't it. People liked them because of the promises they have made, but they have done a complete 180 on those promises. People liked them because they saw them as an alternative to the two main parties, but they have simply gotten into bed with the Tories
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    (Original post by Margaret Thatcher)
    What happened? How changeable you are!
    Moar like how changeable Nick is! Bloody Fib Dems.
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    (Original post by Margaret Thatcher)
    Only a few months ago most of you were worshipping the ground they walked on.

    What happened? How changeable you are!
    i think you and teveth should have an arm wrestle
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    (Original post by lovely_me)
    Moar like how changeable Nick is! Bloody Fib Dems.
    totally agree girll
    fib-dems should be their new name
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    Some of us never believed in them in the first place...
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    (Original post by meenu89)
    Some of us never believed in them in the first place...
    indeed
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    bloody orange bookers dfjighdfhgfhgfjfhgj
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    (Original post by Margaret Thatcher)
    Only a few months ago most of you were worshipping the ground they walked on.

    What happened? How changeable you are!
    Your posts are both tiring and nonsensical. Elaborate on how you came to the conclusion that "most of us" were worshipping the ground that the lib dems walked on?

    Also, where is the rule that people must have a permanent, inflexible loyalty to one particular party through out all their lives? Not all of us are political fan boys you know.......
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    I don't completely hate them, I do sort of understand their perspective. But every now and then the rage boils up :p:
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    The part time political correspondents you speak of OP quickly found out that, sadly, politicians rarely keep to their promises. For such people it was probably an uncomfortable way to be brought back down to their feet.
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    (Original post by beecher)
    bloody orange bookers dfjighdfhgfhgfjfhgj
    The orange bookers are the ones that form the foundations of liberalism, that come from the same tradition the party was formed out of, and aren't just Labour in different clothes.
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    (Original post by Margaret Thatcher)
    Only a few months ago most of you were worshipping the ground they walked on.

    What happened? How changeable you are!
    The media hyped them and demonised them, if the public were too ignorant and lazy to look into their true characters then the blame lies with them. Still the world of politics is eminently changeable, we could well see Cameron's character cross-sectioned in a like manner, or indeed any member of cabinet.
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    (Original post by LiamTheKook)
    The part time political correspondents you speak of OP quickly found out that, sadly, politicians rarely keep to their promises. For such people it was probably an uncomfortable way to be brought back down to their feet.
    There were plenty of favourable policies to attract the student vote so it was unnecessary to sell their souls to buy that vote. I wholly disagree with the university cuts, but it was inevitable some tuition fee rise would have to occur, that or a change to the graduate tax system, so the message they will oppose any further rises was misjudged.
    Indeed it was a very silly thing to do (signing the petitions), they must have known they would only be able to carry out their promises if they ended up in opposition. And yet the odds were always high that no party would win outright. There was obviously some confusion at central headquarters over how to handle such a possibility, they ought to have positioned themselves more pragmatically in order to cover their own backs in case they made it into government, or alternatively they ought to have decided not to go into government.

    For the third largest party in the country they are seriously disorganized.
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      Remember when the Conservatives were telling the public that they would hate a coalition. Pointing out that coalition politics isn't what the UK public want. Labour were saying that a Coalition would be amazing for us all.....

      Who was right? - Conservatives.

      Who was wrong? - Labour.

      Vince Cable has always been a moron, who suckered in moronic idealist moon-on-a-stick liberals and students.

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      if things carry on the way they are just now, come the next election the lib dems are going to get massacred, vince and clegg are more or less unelectable now, i predict both would lose their seats if they stood for them again.

      The problem with vince cable is that he has spent his entire political career being captain hindsight, and using some down right dirty PR tactics. Unfortunately when you are in government people actually listen to what you say so these kind of tactics dont go down well at all.
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      (Original post by Komakino)
      There were plenty of favourable policies to attract the student vote so it was unnecessary to sell their souls to buy that vote. I wholly disagree with the university cuts, but it was inevitable some tuition fee rise would have to occur, that or a change to the graduate tax system, so the message they will oppose any further rises was misjudged.
      Indeed it was a very silly thing to do (signing the petitions), they must have known they would only be able to carry out their promises if they ended up in opposition. And yet the odds were always high that no party would win outright. There was obviously some confusion at central headquarters over how to handle such a possibility, they ought to have positioned themselves more pragmatically in order to cover their own backs in case they made it into government, or alternatively they ought to have decided not to go into government.

      For the third largest party in the country they are seriously disorganized.
      Oh don't get me wrong. The Liberal Democrats were exceedingly clever in what they did. Tapped into a part of the public (students) that is usually neglected by many political parties and inspire them to get up and vote. It was a good tactic but you can't win an election solely on students.

      It was foolish of the LD's to go ahead with such a pledge, it was painfully apparent what Lord Browne's report would say and practically, the pledge just couldn't happen. But people enjoy jumping on bandwagon's in this country. And their admirable move in pledging against a rise in fees was a wagon that simply couldn't be missed. People tend to get a bit head over heels at times and common sense, temporarily you'd hope, ceases to exist. In both mine and your perfect worlds, we wouldn't be rising fees but in reality, things like that can't happen and sometimes, you have to swallow the bitter pill.

      To be quite honest, Clegg and Co. were simply not expecting to get into power at all and the moment the Tories allowed them a sniff, it was set and pledges such as this were probably not as the forefront of their minds.
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      (Original post by LiamTheKook)
      Oh don't get me wrong. The Liberal Democrats were exceedingly clever in what they did. Tapped into a part of the public (students) that is usually neglected by many political parties and inspire them to get up and vote. It was a good tactic but you can't win an election solely on students.

      It was foolish of the LD's to go ahead with such a pledge, it was painfully apparent what Lord Browne's report would say and practically, the pledge just couldn't happen. But people enjoy jumping on bandwagon's in this country. And their admirable move in pledging against a rise in fees was a wagon that simply couldn't be missed. People tend to get a bit head over heels at times and common sense, temporarily you'd hope, ceases to exist. In both mine and your perfect worlds, we wouldn't be rising fees but in reality, things like that can't happen and sometimes, you have to swallow the bitter pill.

      To be quite honest, Clegg and Co. were simply not expecting to get into power at all and the moment the Tories allowed them a sniff, it was set and pledges such as this were probably not as the forefront of their minds.
      I don't think it was at all clever, they've always found support amongst students and to make such a promise shows a lack of foresight. They must have known this was the greatest chance of government they had ever come across (the LD's that is rather than the Liberals) and if not why not, the indicators were there long before the election. In making then breaking the pledge they've damaged that support, and they must have known that if the pledge worked (if the student vote was improved upon) then they could well be forced to act upon it in government. I blame Clegg for the PR stunt, he seems to have very poor judgment.
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      A lot of idealistic first-time voters are gob-smacked that politicians make U-turns and break promises.
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      (Original post by Margaret Thatcher)
      How changeable you are!
      Some. But then again those are the people who couldn't put a name to the face of Nick 12 months ago and for all their bleating about Lib dem promises, didn't actually read any of the manefestos.

      The lib dems have stuck to the four policy areas they highlighted on their front cover.

      Perhaps in 2015 people might actually listen to politicians rather than look at how pretty their ties are...
     
     
     
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