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    Hi, I was rejected from Oxford (after being told I had just missed the place to another) and now I'm wondering whether to go to UCL or Imperial for my Biological Sciences course (I got in both of them).

    These are my criterion:

    1) Social Life: Both are in London, of course, but as I live in London I'm already somewhat used to the the clubbing scene
    What I am more interested in is the people at each uni. I've read that Imperial's boy/girl ratio (I am male myself) is about 65:35, whereas for UCL it's 45:55 - so at UCL, I would be outnumbered by the opposite sex. It's not exactly my priority to be surrounded by girls, but I have these visions of Imperial as a place where the only people I meet are nerdy, work-obsessed boys.

    2) Location and Housing: I don't find the whole Euston Station area very beautiful, so UCL's location isn't exactly a huge plus for me. However if you walk out of Imperial, you are right in one of the most beautiful (and expensive, I'm sure) areas of London, not to mention you graduate in the Royal Albert Hall!

    3) Prestige: Though UCL is allegedly (table wise) the 4th best Uni in the world at the moment, I've heard for sciences that Imperial is hands down the most prestigious. How DOES Imperial (or UCL) compare to Oxford in terms of science - my best friend (who got into Oxford for the same course as me) told me that I shouldn't worry because employers would regard Imperial as just as prestigious as Oxford for science, and I've heard Imperial graduates have the highest starting salary of any university in England.

    4) Housing/Opportunities: What is the housing for Imperial like? For UCL I've heard it can be as far away as Camden Town or East Finchley (dangerously close to my home, so not appealing at all)? Also for the Biological Sciences course, for each university are there different perks (e.g. interesting trips/student schemes/learning abroad)?

    It would be very helpful if people at either UCL or Imperial could answer for all criteria, regardless of whether they're doing Biological Sciences. Thanks!
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    Hey, I've also applied for biological sciences and have gotten offers from UCL and Imperial!

    Have exactly the same dilemma as you, gone through all of the pros and cons and they're pretty much the same as yours (though I'm a girl...so at Imperial I'd be surrounded by boys but thats not my highest priority hahaha).

    But ive also heard that for most biology-related courses at imperial, the boy girl ratio is pretty equal so i dont think it would matter too much?!

    At the moment, I'm leaning towards UCL cos it just seems much more relaxed and open to more people who arent completely nerdy etc. lol

    If you dont mind me asking, where else have you applied? And what were your offers from UCL and Imperial (and the others) ? I've applied to Warwick (offer ABB), Kings (acknowledged) and Southampton (BBB). I dont know my grade requirements for UCL but Imperials AAB (with an A in biology)..
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    Hey, I've also applied for biological sciences and have gotten offers from UCL and Imperial!

    Have exactly the same dilemma as you, gone through all of the pros and cons and they're pretty much the same as yours (though I'm a girl...so at Imperial I'd be surrounded by boys but thats not my highest priority hahaha).

    But ive also heard that for most biology-related courses at imperial, the boy girl ratio is pretty equal so i dont think it would matter too much?!

    At the moment, I'm leaning towards UCL cos it just seems much more relaxed and open to more people who arent completely nerdy etc. lol

    If you dont mind me asking, where else have you applied? And what were your offers from UCL and Imperial (and the others) ? I've applied to Warwick (offer ABB), Kings (acknowledged) and Southampton (BBB). I dont know my grade requirements for UCL but Imperials AAB (with an A in biology)..
    I have an offers from Warwick (ABB), Bristol (AAB), and then UCL (AAA) and Imperial (AAB with an A in Biology like you). It's really hard to choose between the two, isn't it? On most levels Imperial appeals to me more, but I just keep on hearing the social life at UCL is miles better...
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    On most levels Imperial appeals to me more, but I just keep on hearing the social life at UCL is miles better...


    Same, at the moment UCL is my first choice because I think if I'm not enjoying myself at Imperial then I'll just regret not going to UCL, even though there is the downside of maybe not getting a better job after uni. But UCL is still an amazing uni, most places i reckon would regard both imperial and ucl at the same level...

    Did you have an interview for UCL? and if so, when?
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    I had this decision last year; although with an IB related career route: http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/show...20ucl%20thread

    Ok, if we're actually going on which is the best for biology, i and a lot of others in the field (not saying i'm in the field) put it in the order: Imperial, Cambridge, Oxford, UCL
    Yes, Imperial is generally regarded as being the best for biology; however, they have shaken up the whole degree course, so although it will definitely still be a top course and have the Imperial brand attached to it, it may become slightly worse.

    Now, i really question whether this whole ranking of the top 30 universities or so matters. At the end of the day we go to university to get a job, and that job is decided by the employer who we apply to. No employer is going to choose an Imperial or Cambridge graduate over a UCL graduate based on the fact that they went to Imperial or Cambridge; the employer will interview both and then choose based more on which they would prefer to work with/have in their organisation. This decision is going to be more related to work experience, personality of the candidate etc than whether they went to the uni which is ever so slightly better in terms of teaching quality. As i've been told numerous times by people in the know; an education from any of the top 30 universities is going to be roughly the same quality; yes, there are differences in terms of prestige, but really this only matters in the most competitive jobs such as investment banking. So i really wouldn't worry at all about which is the so called 'better' university; forget the whole 'UCL 4th in the world' and 'Imperial best biology department' **** and understand that they are virtually going to take you to the same position in your career.

    So i would focus more on the journey to that position where you've finished your degree. Where do you prefer to live? and yes, i live in Camden Town, so where you don't want to live, really first years have quite a lot of choice for accomodation in terms of location; i have a friend living at UCL halls in victoria, then theres those halls closer to the uni and north and east. Second years can live virtually anywhere within london, it's your choice, many live a long way away and it's your choice, so i really wouldn't worry about ending up in north london. Social life? UCL all the way, seriously it's SOOO much better than i imagine Imperial to be (maybe someone from Imperial can say how bad it is there). Perks? UCL you can apply to study abroad in the 3rd year of the 4 year MSci. Theres also the cumberland lodge visit which is meant to be good.

    Really i can't be bothered to talk about everything; if there's any specific questions just ask.
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    (Original post by AlexB1001)
    I have an offers from Warwick (ABB), Bristol (AAB), and then UCL (AAA) and Imperial (AAB with an A in Biology like you). It's really hard to choose between the two, isn't it? On most levels Imperial appeals to me more, but I just keep on hearing the social life at UCL is miles better...
    AAA from UCL? Hmm, you know why it's not AAB? I got told that was standard by admissions just 3 weeks ago...
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    AAA from UCL? Hmm, you know why it's not AAB? I got told that was standard by admissions just 3 weeks ago...
    Yeah, I got told on my interview day that they've raised it to 3 A's cos last year the percentage they thought wouldn't reach AAB did and they had too many applicants...

    Really need an Imperial view on this, because it might not be all geeks and freaks at Imperial - everyone might just be percieving it like that?!
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    AAA from UCL? Hmm, you know why it's not AAB? I got told that was standard by admissions just 3 weeks ago...
    This year, as far as I am aware, they gave AAA offers to all biologists (at least all the people in my school applying for Biology), plus as Goldust said they mentioned in the interview day that they had raised the offer. My interviewer gave me my offer in the interview, and told me she wanted to predict me AAB but that was not the standard offer anymore.

    And Goldust, I was interviewed, and it was on the first day of interviewing, though I'm not sure the specific date. And yeah, I think we need input from Imperial people as well!

    I just don't want to randomly choose UCL over Imperial because 'the social life is so much better' and then regret my choice.
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    Same, was given my offer in my interview but she didn't tell me what it would be
    Hopefully it will come up on track soon... I was interviewed on the 1st december, which i think was the second day for interviews.

    Yeah, if anyone from Imperial doing Biological sciences wants to tell us about it, pleease do.

    Thinking about it now I do have friends in the year above who are at Imperial (one doing medicine and one doing maths) and they're the non-geekiest people I know but just insanely clever.
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    I guess they changed it then. Yeah, they were 'supposed' to get 60 of us and got around 80 instead. Fair move to be honest, as my chemistry course organiser told me, 'it's all about marketing'.......
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    I guess they changed it then. Yeah, they were 'supposed' to get 60 of us and got around 80 instead. Fair move to be honest, as my chemistry course organiser told me, 'it's all about marketing'.......
    Would you mind giving a summary of what it's like being at UCL for Biology? In terms of the crowds you can mix with (UCL has the added bonus of people who are doing other, more 'arty' courses such as English I presume) - do you end up getting to know people from other colleges from the 'University of London' (e.g. from Kings/Imperial).

    Most importantly, do you enjoy it?
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    In all honesty I'd go for the one you prefer, rather than the one you think that employers will prefer. Employers won't pick someone who was equally brilliant in their degree over someone from UCL just because they were from Imperial, it depends on SO many other things including extra curricular, personality, work experience and yes, a social aspect to your personality often matters too. I applied for a lab assistant job over the summer and I was shortlisted ahead of some graduates who obviously had more knowledge and experience than me, just because I seemed to have good interpersonal skills, confidence and had a sense of humour.

    Now for many aspects of the course, yes, I imagine Imperial is better. They get more funding and they're a science college therefore more focus will be on their biological sciences course.

    On the flip side, I can't speak for it myself, but I know a few imperial medics and they're having a good time, but do regret some of the aspects of the social side of imperial. Medics are more sociable as a whole, and do say some non-medics have a very good time as well, but they often say the social life IS lacking at imperial for many things. I invited one of my friends over for one of the UCL union nights and he loved it, and was telling me about some of the social life regrets he had for picking imperial over UCL (he had offers for both). He says some of the stereotypes are pretty true- medics socialise amongst themselves and the rest of the college can be quite geeky, and yes there are way more guys than girls :p: I'm trying to be as unbiased as possible here as obviously I've not experienced either, but from what they've said I do believe the thing that UCL does better than imperial is the social life.

    As for where you live, yes, you can pretty much live anywhere you want when you go to UCL, especially in the second year, so you shouldn't worry about that. I lived in a lovely little area near russell square in my first year.
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    (Original post by AlexB1001)
    Hi, I was rejected from Oxford (after being told I had just missed the place to another) and now I'm wondering whether to go to UCL or Imperial for my Biological Sciences course (I got in both of them).

    These are my criterion:

    1) Social Life: Both are in London, of course, but as I live in London I'm already somewhat used to the the clubbing scene
    What I am more interested in is the people at each uni. I've read that Imperial's boy/girl ratio (I am male myself) is about 65:35, whereas for UCL it's 45:55 - so at UCL, I would be outnumbered by the opposite sex. It's not exactly my priority to be surrounded by girls, but I have these visions of Imperial as a place where the only people I meet are nerdy, work-obsessed boys.

    2) Location and Housing: I don't find the whole Euston Station area very beautiful, so UCL's location isn't exactly a huge plus for me. However if you walk out of Imperial, you are right in one of the most beautiful (and expensive, I'm sure) areas of London, not to mention you graduate in the Royal Albert Hall!

    3) Prestige: Though UCL is allegedly (table wise) the 4th best Uni in the world at the moment, I've heard for sciences that Imperial is hands down the most prestigious. How DOES Imperial (or UCL) compare to Oxford in terms of science - my best friend (who got into Oxford for the same course as me) told me that I shouldn't worry because employers would regard Imperial as just as prestigious as Oxford for science, and I've heard Imperial graduates have the highest starting salary of any university in England.

    4) Housing/Opportunities: What is the housing for Imperial like? For UCL I've heard it can be as far away as Camden Town or East Finchley (dangerously close to my home, so not appealing at all)? Also for the Biological Sciences course, for each university are there different perks (e.g. interesting trips/student schemes/learning abroad)?

    It would be very helpful if people at either UCL or Imperial could answer for all criteria, regardless of whether they're doing Biological Sciences. Thanks!
    Here is my totally unbiased opinion.

    1) Social Life: Social life is what you make it. There are quite a few nerdy people at Imperial, but there are plenty of other people of all types. If you want to be partying every day, there are people who do that. If you want to go out to clubs once in a while, maybe hang out in a pub every so often, go out etc. there are people who do that. Essentially, the only thing stopping you from socialising as much as you want to is you.

    2) Location and Housing: Imperial is in an amazing location. I'm in Eastside accom which is fairly new (and expensive...) but its really in a lovely location. You are a short walk from hyde park where we do most of our sports, we have our own gym and pool with a sauna and steam room. It's all really nice, you won't be disappointed by our location.

    3) Prestige: From what I have heard, Imperial is very prestigious for what it does. Whilst UCL might be more prestigious overall, Imperial is a specialist uni. People looking for good science grads look at Imperial. However there really isn't much separating ICL and UCL in terms of prestige, so this isn't too important.

    4) Housing/Opportunities: Imperial housing is variable. I'm in one of the newer buildings that is right on campus. I can leave my halls at 8:55 and be sitting in the lecture theatre in time for my 9am lectures. There are some other halls that are not as close, i think the furthest being about a 20min journey. Its not so bad, and my friends from the further halls seem to be getting on ok with it.

    Imperial is clearly the better university

    Well, on balance, there really isn't much separating UCL and ICL. My slightly less biased and more balanced opinion is chose the one that strikes you as being the one that you will enjoy the most. It won't significantly affect your future whether you chose UCL or ICL. In terms of graduate prospects there really isn't much between them.
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    (Original post by AlexB1001)
    Would you mind giving a summary of what it's like being at UCL for Biology? In terms of the crowds you can mix with (UCL has the added bonus of people who are doing other, more 'arty' courses such as English I presume) - do you end up getting to know people from other colleges from the 'University of London' (e.g. from Kings/Imperial).

    Most importantly, do you enjoy it?
    Yes UCL also has students doing arts, which is a plus. You really only make friends with people on your course, in your halls and in your societies. The only exception i can see to this is if you meet other people then make the effort to stay in contact with them. The only place where i've met students from other london unis is at the london students freshers events. The basic fact is that you see your coursemates, hallmates and people from societies a lot, so naturally you make friends with these people and spend time with them. If you make the effort to sacrifice this time to spend it with students from other unis then you can, but few people do that who i know, if any to be honest.

    However, there are a lot of people to meet, your course is 60-80 people, your halls may be anywhere from 100 to 1000 (ifor evans campus includes 5 halls so is about 1000), and societies are limitless. Personally i've made great friends on my course and in my halls, and really, i haven't ever felt the need to go to my societies more (i've been to 2 meetings) to try to make friends. Of course, if you choose to be in intercollegiate halls, you do meet people from other unis; i have friends who are in these halls and mostly it seems to be LSE, Kings and UCL there with fewer people from other smaller unis. I think that it's really up to you who you socialise with; there are opportunities to meet a wide range of people, but you also have to put the effort in. I'll also point out that we have a really good first year in biology at the moment. When we take over BIOSOC (the biology society) next year (basically second years tend to run the society) we'll definitely have some really good events running. So it will be a decent society for next year, i doubt Imperial can match it.

    As for enjoying it, i definitely am. The social life is decent, we have camden, then central london really close. And we also have the union which is cheap and the medics union, and University of London Union. The workloads of a lot of my hallmates seem lower than mine (biology students have biochem, chemistry, maths etc, so a lot of breadth) so we can go out quite often, or drink inside as we seem to be doing more often. Freshers seemed to go on for about a month or so, i ended up spending over a grand in the first month, mostly on drink. We have decent clubs in london as well and decent student nights on mostly all days of the week.

    Oh and the course is pretty good too, i mean, to me most biology courses will be similar. I like the fact that at UCL you get a really diverse course though, i mean, we do zoology, genetics, biochem, chemistry, statistics, microbiology etc, then we can specialise a lot more in other years. I'm not sure what other unis are like, but im sure they wont start at broad and have the option of ending so narrow.

    That was probably quite untidy, but anyway, basic point is that UCL is a great uni to be at. I understand that you really need an Imperial students point of view, and i will tell you now, that it won't just be nerds there, i know a few people who aren't nerds there, but it won't be as good as UCL.
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    I am currently a First Year Biologist at ICL, and not gonna lie, its a bit crap. UCL all the way
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    I am currently a First Year Biologist at ICL, and not gonna lie, its a bit crap. UCL all the way

    Care to elaborate? Or is it so bad you don't want to talk about it? Haha
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    I am currently a First Year Biologist at ICL, and not gonna lie, its a bit crap. UCL all the way
    Yes, please elaborate. And how would you know UCL is better?
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    Well, to be honest, I have a friend at UCL who is reapplying next year, so, you cant really win with either. It was basically because it wasnt ICL.

    I was rejected from Oxford as well, and I say this with the utmost sincerity, I am so glad now. Imperial is the same mentality at Oxford, and it is not one I am comfortable with. I understand uni is all about the work and the degree, but at the same time, they are meant to be the best years of your life. And I really dont feel, after my first term as a biologist at ICL, it is going to be the case.

    London is an amazing city, but student nights are few and far between, if you are, like me, very strapped for cash. Accommodation is horrificly expensive; dont expect any change from your loan after paying that off each term. I am applying for jobs that, although i really dont have the time to do with the course being demanding, I cant keep asking my parents for money. On a good week, I can manage to survive on £50. That is without going out in the week.

    The course too has a few good lecturers, with Steve Cook being pretty darn good, but the same cannot be said for the others. Lectures apparently are boring at most unis, so I am not blaming ICL for this, but with tutorials being infrequent, support for essay writing being varied in quality depending on where you fall in the register and the tutor (or graduate) you get assigned, along with the labs being not only time consuming but very vague with what is expected in the write ups after, the entirty of the biology course so far has let me down.

    You will get about 10 lectures a week, each being an hour long and containing so much stuff you will never be able to keep up. Honestly. Even with a good nights sleep, **** loads of caffine and a determination of steel, it is impossible to take notes, learn and follow what the hell is happening in the lecture. You do get powerpoints from the lecture, but again, like the lecturers themselves, the quality varies. Steve Cook, again, provides his immaculate notes as well as the powerpoints, but, with one lecturer not even giving powerpoint slides as a guidance, you can write off learning anything substantial. Writing up your notes along with the powerpoints is vital for learning and consolidating what you need to know, but this takes roughly two to three hours PER LECTURE depending on how many text books you have to look up things from. They do not seem the grasp the concept of "undergraduate"- it is more of the lecturers being laboured with having to talk to a room of coughing, pale teenagers as a chore than actually trying to teach. I used to want to be a lecturer myself one day. After seeing how much they seem to dislike doing it, I would rather not.

    Consider it like this. You will get up at nine, tired no matter what time you went to bed because its uni. You will panic because, assuming you are a normal(ish) student that got good grades but still isnt one to absorb everything like a sponge (class porifera haha), you wont be able to follow the lecture. This occurs twice in one day. Then for five days a week. You will have labs til five, and get home too tired to do around five hours of writing up notes to sufficiently keep up. Lectures will build up. Because you havent done your writing up of the notes from Mondays lectures, and because you didnt take it all in, you wont understand Tuesdays lectures. Repeat for 10 agonising weeks until Christmas. Then panic.

    I am sorry, I am probably a poor example. But I went to sixth form at a good school, got interviewed for Oxford, and know full well I am in the top ten percent of the country. At imperial that isnt enough though. There, is the top ten percent of the world. Its stressful if you cant stay in the rat race.

    I have a roommate, an international student, (Don't get me started on sharing a room) and she hardly leaves our crappy little cupboard because she, unlike me, can put in **** loads of hours and be happy about it. She has a poor social life and is yet to see the outside of South Kensington, but she is managing to squeeze in the hours and hours the uni requires off you. She has sacrificed her social life, but, you will find, so do the majority of the students at imperial. there are people I live with who I have seen once in the kitchen or the halls, because they simply dont leave their rooms. If you are willing to make this sacrifice, keeping up can be done, but do you want to pay that price?

    This holiday, I have spent most of my evenings going over thirteen lectures worth of notes. I am not going to lie, I love biology, and the content is interesting and I enjoy learning it. But I should not be paying a grand a term to be learning it at home off wikipedia and from books from the library. Its not how it should be done.

    I am really really sorry to rant, but I think, if someone had told me all this last year, I could have made a better decision. A biology degree is a bit ambigious for what you can do with it, so I understand where you get it from says a lot about the value of the degree. But I wish now I had gone to Sheffield or York or Durham, where learning would have been a lot more relaxed and enjoyable, even if my degree reads a bit less impressively because my name lacks Lond. at the end of it.

    If you wanna talk more (because I have not ranted on enough here obv haha) email me or something Hope thats not too vague for you (bet you regret asking now lol)
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    (Original post by AlexB1001)
    Hi, I was rejected from Oxford (after being told I had just missed the place to another) and now I'm wondering whether to go to UCL or Imperial for my Biological Sciences course (I got in both of them).

    These are my criterion:

    1) Social Life: Both are in London, of course, but as I live in London I'm already somewhat used to the the clubbing scene
    What I am more interested in is the people at each uni. I've read that Imperial's boy/girl ratio (I am male myself) is about 65:35, whereas for UCL it's 45:55 - so at UCL, I would be outnumbered by the opposite sex. It's not exactly my priority to be surrounded by girls, but I have these visions of Imperial as a place where the only people I meet are nerdy, work-obsessed boys.

    2) Location and Housing: I don't find the whole Euston Station area very beautiful, so UCL's location isn't exactly a huge plus for me. However if you walk out of Imperial, you are right in one of the most beautiful (and expensive, I'm sure) areas of London, not to mention you graduate in the Royal Albert Hall!

    3) Prestige: Though UCL is allegedly (table wise) the 4th best Uni in the world at the moment, I've heard for sciences that Imperial is hands down the most prestigious. How DOES Imperial (or UCL) compare to Oxford in terms of science - my best friend (who got into Oxford for the same course as me) told me that I shouldn't worry because employers would regard Imperial as just as prestigious as Oxford for science, and I've heard Imperial graduates have the highest starting salary of any university in England.

    4) Housing/Opportunities: What is the housing for Imperial like? For UCL I've heard it can be as far away as Camden Town or East Finchley (dangerously close to my home, so not appealing at all)? Also for the Biological Sciences course, for each university are there different perks (e.g. interesting trips/student schemes/learning abroad)?

    It would be very helpful if people at either UCL or Imperial could answer for all criteria, regardless of whether they're doing Biological Sciences. Thanks!
    Hey there. I got rejected from Oxford too. But I am not applying for biological sciences tho.I am applying for Biochemistry. I am also in a dilemma of choosing between ICL or UCL. Although I havent got an offer from UCL but I got an interview with them this 26 Jan tho. If you don't mind me asking which college did you apply to? I was frustrated that I didnt get an offer from them.sigh~
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    Well, to be honest, I have a friend at UCL who is reapplying next year, so, you cant really win with either. It was basically because it wasnt ICL.

    I was rejected from Oxford as well, and I say this with the utmost sincerity, I am so glad now. Imperial is the same mentality at Oxford, and it is not one I am comfortable with. I understand uni is all about the work and the degree, but at the same time, they are meant to be the best years of your life. And I really dont feel, after my first term as a biologist at ICL, it is going to be the case.

    London is an amazing city, but student nights are few and far between, if you are, like me, very strapped for cash. Accommodation is horrificly expensive; dont expect any change from your loan after paying that off each term. I am applying for jobs that, although i really dont have the time to do with the course being demanding, I cant keep asking my parents for money. On a good week, I can manage to survive on £50. That is without going out in the week.

    The course too has a few good lecturers, with Steve Cook being pretty darn good, but the same cannot be said for the others. Lectures apparently are boring at most unis, so I am not blaming ICL for this, but with tutorials being infrequent, support for essay writing being varied in quality depending on where you fall in the register and the tutor (or graduate) you get assigned, along with the labs being not only time consuming but very vague with what is expected in the write ups after, the entirty of the biology course so far has let me down.

    You will get about 10 lectures a week, each being an hour long and containing so much stuff you will never be able to keep up. Honestly. Even with a good nights sleep, **** loads of caffine and a determination of steel, it is impossible to take notes, learn and follow what the hell is happening in the lecture. You do get powerpoints from the lecture, but again, like the lecturers themselves, the quality varies. Steve Cook, again, provides his immaculate notes as well as the powerpoints, but, with one lecturer not even giving powerpoint slides as a guidance, you can write off learning anything substantial. Writing up your notes along with the powerpoints is vital for learning and consolidating what you need to know, but this takes roughly two to three hours PER LECTURE depending on how many text books you have to look up things from. They do not seem the grasp the concept of "undergraduate"- it is more of the lecturers being laboured with having to talk to a room of coughing, pale teenagers as a chore than actually trying to teach. I used to want to be a lecturer myself one day. After seeing how much they seem to dislike doing it, I would rather not.

    Consider it like this. You will get up at nine, tired no matter what time you went to bed because its uni. You will panic because, assuming you are a normal(ish) student that got good grades but still isnt one to absorb everything like a sponge (class porifera haha), you wont be able to follow the lecture. This occurs twice in one day. Then for five days a week. You will have labs til five, and get home too tired to do around five hours of writing up notes to sufficiently keep up. Lectures will build up. Because you havent done your writing up of the notes from Mondays lectures, and because you didnt take it all in, you wont understand Tuesdays lectures. Repeat for 10 agonising weeks until Christmas. Then panic.

    I am sorry, I am probably a poor example. But I went to sixth form at a good school, got interviewed for Oxford, and know full well I am in the top ten percent of the country. At imperial that isnt enough though. There, is the top ten percent of the world. Its stressful if you cant stay in the rat race.

    I have a roommate, an international student, (Don't get me started on sharing a room) and she hardly leaves our crappy little cupboard because she, unlike me, can put in **** loads of hours and be happy about it. She has a poor social life and is yet to see the outside of South Kensington, but she is managing to squeeze in the hours and hours the uni requires off you. She has sacrificed her social life, but, you will find, so do the majority of the students at imperial. there are people I live with who I have seen once in the kitchen or the halls, because they simply dont leave their rooms. If you are willing to make this sacrifice, keeping up can be done, but do you want to pay that price?

    This holiday, I have spent most of my evenings going over thirteen lectures worth of notes. I am not going to lie, I love biology, and the content is interesting and I enjoy learning it. But I should not be paying a grand a term to be learning it at home off wikipedia and from books from the library. Its not how it should be done.

    I am really really sorry to rant, but I think, if someone had told me all this last year, I could have made a better decision. A biology degree is a bit ambigious for what you can do with it, so I understand where you get it from says a lot about the value of the degree. But I wish now I had gone to Sheffield or York or Durham, where learning would have been a lot more relaxed and enjoyable, even if my degree reads a bit less impressively because my name lacks Lond. at the end of it.

    If you wanna talk more (because I have not ranted on enough here obv haha) email me or something Hope thats not too vague for you (bet you regret asking now lol)
    Hey, If you dont mind me asking, is this the same case for Biochemstry as well? I also have no idea which one to choose between ICL or UCL.:confused:
 
 
 
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