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    Hello, I am applying for a maths undergrad for entry in 2011 and wanted to decide if I applied to Durham or to St. Andrews. I have already sent my application to four other universities and am just adding my last choice in Ucas track. However, this is by no means my insurance choice.

    As an international applicant, I am unable to visit either university before applying. Besides, from what I have read, I would be happy to live in either, perhaps with a (very) slight preference to St. Andrews. Therefore I would like to make my decision based on which university would give me the best, most demanding and most intensive course (I would choose the pure maths MMath fasttrack program in st Andrews, and work towards an Honours degree in either) since the whole purpose for me to go to an overseas university is getting the best course possible. Could you please advise me?
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    (Original post by josephgama)
    Hello, I am applying for a maths undergrad for entry in 2011 and wanted to decide if I applied to Durham or to St. Andrews. I have already sent my application to four other universities and am just adding my last choice in Ucas track. However, this is by no means my insurance choice.

    As an international applicant, I am unable to visit either university before applying. Besides, from what I have read, I would be happy to live in either, perhaps with a (very) slight preference to St. Andrews. Therefore I would like to make my decision based on which university would give me the best, most demanding and most intensive course (I would choose the pure maths MMath fasttrack program in st Andrews, and work towards an Honours degree in either) since the whole purpose for me to go to an overseas university is getting the best course possible. Could you please advise me?
    There's not really a whole lot of difference between the two - both are top unis that take the best students and, as such, both have rigorous courses to suit the ability. If you have a slight preference for St Andrews, then go for that one.

    Also, you can do an MMath at Durham as well, if you choose to go for Durham instead.
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    I would go for St. Andrews because, having visited it, I liked it a lot more than Durham! I think the big thing to think about is something you haven't mentioned: the college system. Durham will have colleges, some of which will be really small (st. john's has about 150 students) and some up to about 1200, whereas St. Andrews won't. Also, in terms of academic rigour, both a great universities, but St. Andrews is a Scottish university. Scottish students usually go to university a year younger than English/Welsh students, so 3 year degrees in England/Wales= (roughly) a 4 year degree in Scotland. That means the first year of St. Andrews maths may be slightly less full on than Durham's first year (though this is just postulation based on what I know about the Scottish university) and you may be able to complete Durham's degree more quickly (though I think you counteract that by doing MMath fast track). Both are good, if you think you prefer St. A's, I would go there!
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    I know a guy doing Maths at St. Andrews and he loves it. It's a really nice place as well.
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    Than you all for your replies. They have been extremely useful. Although I did have a very slight preference for st. Andrews as a place to live in, the information you gave me on st Andrews starting it's course a bit slower than Durham (even when I know it is because of the way the scotish sysem works and it rapidly catches up and becomes a course just as good as Durham's) has convinced me I should apply to Durham. I also did a little research and foun out that I like the courses of Durham's final year a bit more than those of St. Andrew's. Thank again for your help.
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    Well in my extremely unbiased opinion, you've made an excellent choice there. Make sure you put some effort into choosing your college.
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    (Original post by josephgama)
    Than you all for your replies. They have been extremely useful. Although I did have a very slight preference for st. Andrews as a place to live in, the information you gave me on st Andrews starting it's course a bit slower than Durham (even when I know it is because of the way the scotish sysem works and it rapidly catches up and becomes a course just as good as Durham's) has convinced me I should apply to Durham. I also did a little research and foun out that I like the courses of Durham's final year a bit more than those of St. Andrew's. Thank again for your help.
    If you know what topics you would like to study, look at the modules they offer and if what you want fits in with what they offer. That is the only reason I am having to choose between Bath and Bristol
 
 
 
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