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    Just got a question regarding the personal statement. I am currently torn between both subjects with both having strong personal factors supporting each. I'm pondering whether to select two physics courses and 3 maths courses next year. Therefore, there would be a problem writing the personal statement.

    Basically, can any physics or maths students advise me on whether I would stand an equal chance to each of my applications when I write a personal statement that is relevant to both subjects (so, I basically want your opinions on how closely related you think the two subjects are).

    I believe I can write relevant to both e.g. the things I have read up on, Chaos Theory and relativity, etc. contains a lot of rigorous mathematics as well. I have a balanced amount of maths and science awards which I would have put down anyway if I plan to choose one course.

    Would you say that this is feasible?
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    as long as your personal statement doesn't show much bias to one and you link both in well you shouldn't have a problem - i had a friend who applied for natural sciences, physics and maths and managed to get away with it!
    - take it there's no combined courses for those two?
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    (Original post by Reminisce)
    Just got a question regarding the personal statement. I am currently torn between both subjects with both having strong personal factors supporting each. I'm pondering whether to select two physics courses and 3 maths courses next year. Therefore, there would be a problem writing the personal statement.

    Basically, can any physics or maths students advise me on whether I would stand an equal chance to each of my applications when I write a personal statement that is relevant to both subjects (so, I basically want your opinions on how closely related you think the two subjects are).

    I believe I can write relevant to both e.g. the things I have read up on, Chaos Theory and relativity, etc. contains a lot of rigorous mathematics as well. I have a balanced amount of maths and science awards which I would have put down anyway if I plan to choose one course.

    Would you say that this is feasible?
    It will be difficult to write a personal statement which applies well to both, and (all other things being equal) would put you at a disadvantage vs students who have applied for only physics or maths, and have focused their PS better. Maths is only one aspect of physics, and physics isn't really a part of maths. The two subjects are closely related but are not the same subject, far from it. Physics and chemistry might be closer related, or English and History, for example.

    I am a physics undergrad, by the way .
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    (Original post by Kat_Heine)
    as long as your personal statement doesn't show much bias to one and you link both in well you shouldn't have a problem - i had a friend who applied for natural sciences, physics and maths and managed to get away with it!
    - take it there's no combined courses for those two?
    I am pretty sure there is :yes: OP, do some research
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    How about Mathematics with physics (FG31, GF13, FG3C and GFC3 on UCAS)?
    Or Maths with theoretical physics (F340 & F341)?
    There are probably more courses like that.

    Or do a joint honours degree. A lot of universities do those.
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    (Original post by M_E_X)
    It will be difficult to write a personal statement which applies well to both, and (all other things being equal) would put you at a disadvantage vs students who have applied for only physics or maths, and have focused their PS better. Maths is only one aspect of physics, and physics isn't really a part of maths. The two subjects are closely related but are not the same subject, far from it. Physics and chemistry might be closer related, or English and History, for example.

    I am a physics undergrad, by the way .

    Thanks for the comment but from the various mathematics personal statements I looked into, people focus on one or two area they have read in such as finance based, etc. I would simply be focusing on mathematics in another applied field (e.g. if I talk about relativity I could write briefly on Coordinate transfer and calculus or Chaos Theory and go on about Feigenbaum's constants)

    Also, as I understand from looking up course specifications, many dedicated a long time to pure mathematics such as calculus and algebra because they are deeply integrated into University physics (I know physics in GCSE and A Levels simply state things about particle physics whereas in university, mathematics is used almost everywhere for the actual reasoning and precision).

    I have considered Physics with Mathematics courses but the only university I am interested in that offers it is Warwick. Oxbridge, UCL, Imperial do not seem to have that course unless anyone else can enlighten me.
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    (Original post by Reminisce)
    Thanks for the comment but from the various mathematics personal statements I looked into, people focus on one or two area they have read in such as finance based, etc. I would simply be focusing on mathematics in another applied field (e.g. if I talk about relativity I could write briefly on Coordinate transfer and calculus or Chaos Theory and go on about Feigenbaum's constants)

    Also, as I understand from looking up course specifications, many dedicated a long time to pure mathematics such as calculus and algebra because they are deeply integrated into University physics (I know physics in GCSE and A Levels simply state things about particle physics whereas in university, mathematics is used almost everywhere for the actual reasoning and precision).

    I have considered Physics with Mathematics courses but the only university I am interested in that offers it is Warwick. Oxbridge, UCL, Imperial do not seem to have that course unless anyone else can enlighten me.
    UCL offers Natural Sciences. I applied for it with a biology/chemistry/biochemistry personal statement and got an offer so any solid science PS should do. If you end up there, I think you pick three science subjects to start off with and then go down to two. In your case, I presume this would be maths and physics. At Cambridge, I am pretty sure you can study maths as part of Physical Natural Sciences and I think the Maths course allows for some physics as well. I hope this helps!
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    Thank you for clarifying the courses regarding Natural Science, I have read about the possibility of Physical Natural Science in Cambridge and that there is a mathematics course as well. But, I wondered, would employers or whatever see that you have completed a maths course or simply see a Physics Degree? I am not too sure on how the Natural Science system of selecting 2/3 courses works. However, applying for the Natural Sciences themselves is still different from maths.

    Or do you make the choice of Physical Science and choose the 3 courses during the UCAS application?

    But I am mainly considering the prospect of applying to the universities themselves regarding physics and/or mathematics. There are some universities in my choices that do offer Physics and Maths as one course but I still require a personal statement suitable for Physics and Maths.
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    (Original post by Reminisce)
    Thank you for clarifying the courses regarding Natural Science, I have read about the possibility of Physical Natural Science in Cambridge and that there is a mathematics course as well. But, I wondered, would employers or whatever see that you have completed a maths course or simply see a Physics Degree? I am not too sure on how the Natural Science system of selecting 2/3 courses works. However, applying for the Natural Sciences themselves is still different from maths.

    But I am mainly considering the prospect of applying to the universities themselves regarding physics and/or mathematics. There are some universities in my choices that do offer Physics and Maths as one course but I still require a personal statement suitable for Physics and Maths.
    I expect any maths you did would appear on your transcript, and a course as broad as Natural Sciences would probably need you to specify what you did anyway. I can't really offer help on the PS since mine was biology/chemistry, and I'm not too hot on my physics...

    At Cambridge, you say whether you're applying for Biological or Physical NatSci on your SAQ. At UCL, you reply to their email specifying in which area you'd like to be interviewed.
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    (Original post by Reminisce)
    Or do you make the choice of Physical Science and choose the 3 courses during the UCAS application?
    You apply for Natural Sciences on UCAS, then Cambridge sends the SAQ (where you put down all your module grades) and you have to pick Physical or Biological sciences, as this will change how you're interviewed.


    You only pick the modules you'll take (3 experimental sciences and then a maths option) when/if you start the course in October.
 
 
 
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