The Daily Telegraph: Muslim population has grown from 1.65m to 2.87m in a decade
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Original post by Phantom_X
newsflash- muslims are not aliens; they too are also people with very human values.
Human values like 'murder the gays'.
As the comment two posts above me (from the Guardian, no less) points out, it's common in Islamic communities to hold values that most Westerners would feel are utterly barbaric.
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Original post by CullenLoverX
What do you base that assumption on?
Just about every study on social mobility out there
'homosexual acts were morally acceptable'
so what if muslims believe that ? there not saying that everyone should go and hunt gays. it depends how the question is worded
some christians still dont want women priests , islam already has female priests
Im sure the 1 million people who voted BNP believe homosexuality is morally unacceptable
but because they are white lets just forget about that.
'Worshippers from black communities now outnumber white churchgoers in London' source BBC
but because they are nice and christian lets forget about that
so what , people need to stop scaremongering
Muslims are still in a minority , they share the same concerns as everyone else about the economy,NHS,taxes etc
The Telegraph is a well known right wing paper. How many muslims voted for Shariah law at the last election ? The Vast majority of British Muslim are still first generation it takes time to integrate you can look to european immigration to America and see its a process that takes place naturally but slowed down by mutual suspicion and scaremongering
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article6954571.ece
Muslims in Britain are the most patriotic in Europe
but because we dont like facts less just forget about that
The Atheist population of Britain has increased 100%, should we all be worried about communism ?
so what if muslims believe that ? there not saying that everyone should go and hunt gays. it depends how the question is worded
some christians still dont want women priests , islam already has female priests
Im sure the 1 million people who voted BNP believe homosexuality is morally unacceptable
but because they are white lets just forget about that.
'Worshippers from black communities now outnumber white churchgoers in London' source BBC
but because they are nice and christian lets forget about that
so what , people need to stop scaremongering
Muslims are still in a minority , they share the same concerns as everyone else about the economy,NHS,taxes etc
The Telegraph is a well known right wing paper. How many muslims voted for Shariah law at the last election ? The Vast majority of British Muslim are still first generation it takes time to integrate you can look to european immigration to America and see its a process that takes place naturally but slowed down by mutual suspicion and scaremongering
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article6954571.ece
Muslims in Britain are the most patriotic in Europe
but because we dont like facts less just forget about that
The Atheist population of Britain has increased 100%, should we all be worried about communism ?
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Original post by Margaret Thatcher
What exactly did you expect them to say?
That Homosexuality is morally acceptable?
Original post by FyreFight
Human values like 'murder the gays'.
As the comment two posts above me (from the Guardian, no less) points out, it's common in Islamic communities to hold values that most Westerners would feel are utterly barbaric.
As the comment two posts above me (from the Guardian, no less) points out, it's common in Islamic communities to hold values that most Westerners would feel are utterly barbaric.
Except the comment two posts above you didn't say that Muslims hold values like murder the gays.
Are you mad ??
22.1% of Bradford is Asian
Even if the Asian population doubles in 6 years they wont be the majority and even if they were so what ?
Birth Rates ? lol
22.1% of Bradford is Asian
Even if the Asian population doubles in 6 years they wont be the majority and even if they were so what ?
Birth Rates ? lol
giving charity to the taliban ??? why havnt any of them been prosecuted ?
As you well know the taliban are funded by the US drug consumption and according to wikileaks rich arabs in american ally Saudi Arabia , and foreign troops killing civilians and midnight raids may push some afghans to join the taliban. and NATO have been known to pay money to pro taliban war lords on numerous occasions
As you well know the taliban are funded by the US drug consumption and according to wikileaks rich arabs in american ally Saudi Arabia , and foreign troops killing civilians and midnight raids may push some afghans to join the taliban. and NATO have been known to pay money to pro taliban war lords on numerous occasions
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and you are dumb enough to believe that you would need to fly electronic components all the way from Britain to make an IED.
Original post by DorianGrayism
Except the comment two posts above you didn't say that Muslims hold values like murder the gays.
No, it said that not one of the 500 British muslims they polled believed that homosexuality was acceptable.
Meanwhile, in Islamic theocracies inhabited by people with such opinions:
Link
For all your misguided handwringing in defence of tolerating the intolerant, homosexuality will always be a sin in Islam. Allahu akbar.
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Obviously, it is the Telegraph.
Shame it isn't a reputable journalist.
The same journalist that published a letter supposedly showing the link between 9/11 and Saddam Hussein. It was later shown to be forgery.
The same journalist who never reveals his sources. Even in Libel Court cases.
And now he is saying that British made electronics are being used in IEDs.....even though the Taliban do not require them.
The anonymous sources's explanation for their appearance is that British Muslims are carrying suitcases full of Electronic components on planes to Pakistan without anyone noticing.
By the way, it is illegal to give money to a terrorist organisation.
Shame it isn't a reputable journalist.
The same journalist that published a letter supposedly showing the link between 9/11 and Saddam Hussein. It was later shown to be forgery.
The same journalist who never reveals his sources. Even in Libel Court cases.
And now he is saying that British made electronics are being used in IEDs.....even though the Taliban do not require them.
The anonymous sources's explanation for their appearance is that British Muslims are carrying suitcases full of Electronic components on planes to Pakistan without anyone noticing.
By the way, it is illegal to give money to a terrorist organisation.
There are now a lot more liberal British Muslim to who drink and stuff than there were a decade a go, so its all good 
Original post by FyreFight
No, it said that not one of the 500 British muslims they polled believed that homosexuality was acceptable.
So you are saying that viewing homosexuality as immoral is a value "that most Westerners would feel are utterly barbaric."
That must mean that 49% of Americans or 70% of Texans or 97% of Fundamentalist Christians hold a view " that most Westerners would feel are utterly barbaric."
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I understand what you mean. I have heard Muslims say that the BBC is biased against Palestine and Islam.
Anyway, that has nothing to do with what I said.
If I attacked the Telegraph for just being the Telegraph, then you might have a point.
I didn't. I pointed out the problems in the story which you have failed to address.
Anyway, that has nothing to do with what I said.
If I attacked the Telegraph for just being the Telegraph, then you might have a point.
I didn't. I pointed out the problems in the story which you have failed to address.
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Original post by Margaret Thatcher
Please bear in mind that it wasn't actually until the 60'That homosexual relations were fully legalised in the uk, AND that even to this day many people are intolerant toward homosexuals- that includes christians, hindus, sikhs and well, more evidently anyway, chavs. It also explicity says in the quran that homosexuality is a sin and forbidden, so it goes without saying that Muslims would be against it; then again, are muslims in the uk as a whole actively attacking gay people because its against the quran ?
i think not.
Original post by FyreFight
Human values like 'murder the gays'.
As the comment two posts above me (from the Guardian, no less) points out, it's common in Islamic communities to hold values that most Westerners would feel are utterly barbaric.
As the comment two posts above me (from the Guardian, no less) points out, it's common in Islamic communities to hold values that most Westerners would feel are utterly barbaric.
Except homosexuality was actually only legalised in the 60's, and in the 19th century you would have been executed for being a homosexual- ironically dictated by christian law. Its not too far off and to claim a moral high ground over it is proposterous.
secondly, it goes without saying that Islam forbids homosexuality- as does the christian, sikh and jewish faith. Does this mean all such religions are 'anti-western' ? Why are we not protesting against these faiths in the same way we protest against Islam ?
Thirdly, while many muslims (and indeed most religious people) may be against homosexuality, it does not mean they want to actively destroy it; beyond a few crazy mullahs, there has been no 'united calling against the gays' in any monotheistic religion. Hence, whilst religious doctrine presents the fundamental idea that homosexuality is a sin, at the same time there is not a simultaneous calling that all should be executed, as seems to be suggested in your tone.
Original post by Phantom_X
Except homosexuality was actually only legalised in the 60's, and in the 19th century you would have been executed for being a homosexual- ironically dictated by christian law. Its not too far off and to claim a moral high ground over it is proposterous.
secondly, it goes without saying that Islam forbids homosexuality- as does the christian, sikh and jewish faith. Does this mean all such religions are 'anti-western' ? Why are we not protesting against these faiths in the same way we protest against Islam ?
Thirdly, while many muslims (and indeed most religious people) may be against homosexuality, it does not mean they want to actively destroy it; beyond a few crazy mullahs, there has been no 'united calling against the gays' in any monotheistic religion. Hence, whilst religious doctrine presents the fundamental idea that homosexuality is a sin, at the same time there is not a simultaneous calling that all should be executed, as seems to be suggested in your tone.
secondly, it goes without saying that Islam forbids homosexuality- as does the christian, sikh and jewish faith. Does this mean all such religions are 'anti-western' ? Why are we not protesting against these faiths in the same way we protest against Islam ?
Thirdly, while many muslims (and indeed most religious people) may be against homosexuality, it does not mean they want to actively destroy it; beyond a few crazy mullahs, there has been no 'united calling against the gays' in any monotheistic religion. Hence, whilst religious doctrine presents the fundamental idea that homosexuality is a sin, at the same time there is not a simultaneous calling that all should be executed, as seems to be suggested in your tone.
That's because your ordinary Muslim who executes a homosexual would be commiting murder. It's the Islaamic state that does this after a guilty verdict is concluded.
The most important aspect, I feel, is the question of how homosexuality is determined in an Islaamic state?
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Are you f*****g retarded or soemthing? Ever considered that the World Population also grew by 1 Billion as well?
That clearly shows that Islam is the religion to rule the world and the TRUE religion on Earth.
That clearly shows that Islam is the religion to rule the world and the TRUE religion on Earth.
and who were the ones who cosied up to the taliban, to the saudis and to bin laden ? who were the people who let the taliban acquire arms freely as long as they fought the soviets ? who were the people who saw the taliban as the heroes of the 20th century ?
perhaps, before you speak of patriotism, you better learn the history of the 'good side'.
perhaps, before you speak of patriotism, you better learn the history of the 'good side'.
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