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(Original post by hornblower)
Maybe, but that doesn't really hold true does it?

A D-grade at A-level chemistry is regarded as equivalent to an A in ICT or media studies. That's what I've been told by respected teachers at school.

J.
cept it doesnt sound so good ( the D tho')
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I would have loved to pick at least one science for my A-Level, but they all clashed with other subjects I wanted to choose (Computing and Economics). The only one I could take was Physics, but for that i'd need to take Maths too, which isn't something I want to do

Regardless, I don't think less of myself for not choosing a Science at A-Level.. I just blame the college.

I sure am going to miss Chemistry though
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I think it's quite arrogant to think of yourself as more intelligent because of the subjects taken at A level. First time round for my A levels i did:

Biology
Chemistry
Sociology
English Literature (AS)

So i have a mixture of academic and social subjects. Many people (including me), found it hard to be able to be strong in all subjects. Biology essays for example are very factual, and you can use diagrams. Try using a diagram to describe Othello in an Eng Lit exam! The world needs people with a multitude of skills. I would have like to do Psychology and Theatre Studies, but they clashed with other subjects. Psychology isn't as easy as some people think and just because you can do caluculations and scientific experiments doesn't mean you will know how to talk to people or have good social relationships.
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(Original post by hornblower)
Well, doing the three sciences and maths does open so many doors, so it would seem logical to continue to do a mix of sciences at undergraduate level.

This approach however, means that those natural scientists must not want to specialise that early - maybe because they can't make up their minds!


J.

hmmm that describes me. I do all the scieces and maths for my A level, only because i enjoy all of them. I did not pick them knowing what I want to do in the future, I picked them as the subjects I am most interested in. However I'm getting nearer and nearer to the time when I have to choose ewhat degree i want to do at univerisity. I simply cannot make up my mind with what i want to do. Choosing my a levles subejcts was easy. This is hard.
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(Original post by Sarky)
I think it's quite arrogant to think of yourself as more intelligent because of the subjects taken at A level. .. Psychology isn't as easy as some people think and just because you can do caluculations and scientific experiments doesn't mean you will know how to talk to people or have good social relationships.

I think it has more to do with separating purer subjects to subjects that are more classified to be a certain type.

For instance why choose to do Media Studies than English? I'm sure once you have mastered at writing a character study of someone in Chaucer's tales or Shakespear's plays, it would be so simple to write a character study of someone in Eastenders!

However I do belive it is wrong to say that one thing is "easier" than the other. Ofcourse the purer subjects show much more initiative, however it does not mean to say that people do not put as much effort to those subjects that aren't as pure.
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I think its important to accept that just because a subject has a better reputation (the example used earlier, D in chem vs A in ICT) does not necessarily mean it is harder! More modern courses are less likely to be as valued by unis/employers as more traditional courses, because they don't know as much about them, what they entail, and very little they can compare them to directly. As a sweeping generalisation, people are always fearful of new things!

I think it also depends on how specific a course is, for example biology as a 'core' subject will not cover as much brain stuff as psychology but it will cover some but in less detail. (Sorry don't know much about psychology to use technical language!) Along with this is the consideration of how early someone might want to specialise.


I know my points are a bit vague I've been revising for the past 3hours, my brain is now mush!
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(Original post by hornblower)

A D-grade at A-level chemistry is regarded as equivalent to an A in ICT or media studies. That's what I've been told by respected teachers at school.
I wouldn't agree with that...

If you're planning on going straight into a job after 6th form, ICT would be more relevant than chemistry in nearly all careers (bearing in mind you wouldn't have a degree). I know chemistry is hard, but ICT takes up a lot of time. I got an A at A-level and my coursework took up more time than my English and biology coursework combined, I spent about six hours a week on it.

ICT teaches you more practical office skills than chemistry does.
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ICT teaches you more practical office skills than chemistry does.
Maybe so.

Chemistry however, is a subject that develops numeracy, literacy and analytical skills - which is probably why it is one of the most respected A-levels.

J.
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... and people who take psychology, sociology, media studies, business studies etc all feel like they are 'less clever' than people doing mainly science-based subjects, which i think is totally wrong because some people doing sciences wouldn't be very good at the so-called 'soft subjects' would they? I take biology which i get told is the 'easy' science but it's not that easy, it's the hardest of my four subjects. I do sociology too and it's not as easy as everyone thinks and is really useful as it opens your eyes up to the world. Is it just me who gets kinda annoyed about the status of certain subjects? -Rant over-
Biology is easy if you're good at it that goes for all subjects. People who diss different subjects are the people who probably have never done the subject they're dissing anyway so just ignore them. They have no idea what it involves. I'm quite strong on this cus Unis don't respect art very much (screw them all).

I would say OCR chemistry is easier than AQA biology, but AQA chemistry is far harder than OCR chemistry and it looks much harder than AQA biology. Biology may be regarded as easy because it mainly requires you to learn a load of facts and you don't apply it until at the exam - which is where people fail usually. Chemistry and physics and even maths, however, requires you to apply facts you've learnt to situations you've never encountered before, which builds up a good skill unis love and indeed employers love. It also makes it harder than studying for biology.

"Easy" subjects are only easy if you're good at it really. I regard art as the world's doss subject cus it's sooo easy but I respect the subject very much cus I adore it. But that's cus I'm fairly good at it. I regard maths as the world's worst killer subject cus I really can't do it, even though it could be quite interesting. For some people it could be the reverse - it all depends.
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I took Eng Lit as AS - what a mistake it is. My teacher made it sound like Chaurcer, Miller's Tale is all about sex and when I studied it myself before the exam I find only about three lines on sex. But I'm glad I took Eng Lit cus now I know I never wanna study it at Uni!

You'll be amazed. I find Eng Lit far harder than Chemistry or Biology, both of which I take, and I can't do maths. I can't even handle chem maths and anyone who does Chemistry will know it's the equivalent of GCSE science maths. Amazing really cus I've always thought I was better at English than Sciences, and I did get the same grades in both at GCSEs.... Ummmm. Interesting. Psychotherapy must be soooo interesting - if only you don't need Fine Art degree to go into art therapy I'd take art therapy.
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(Original post by imasillynarb)
Further Maths>Maths>Physics>Chemistry>Bi ology
Yes,I agree this list.
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Yes,I agree this list.
Hmm not sure about Physics being harder than Chemistry though!
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Hmm not sure about Physics being harder than Chemistry though!
Well, it really depends on individual...
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I wanted to do Maths, Physics, History and Economics... but do to my school... I "had" to do Maths, Physics, Art and Business Studies...
and I have to say I've spent MUCH MORE TIME in Art and Busines than in Maths and Physics... i mean... with Maths and Physics if you just pay attention in lessons u get A/B... I mean... for example I got 86/100 in S1 just studying ONE DAY!!!!! and in Art (after spending HOURS AND HOURS and WEEKS working I got B... and the people from my class C, D and D!!!) In Business Studies the same thing I got A but the people from my class A, B, C , U, U , U!!! Yeah!!! 3 Us!!!! I mean... of course to get A in business u need 85% and in Chemistry 60%!!!! so a D in Chemistry does NOT equal an A in Business as some people said!!!
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I wanted to do Maths, Physics, History and Economics... but do to my school... I "had" to do Maths, Physics, Art and Business Studies...
and I have to say I've spent MUCH MORE TIME in Art and Busines than in Maths and Physics... i mean... with Maths and Physics if you just pay attention in lessons u get A/B... I mean... for example I got 86/100 in S1 just studying ONE DAY!!!!! and in Art (after spending HOURS AND HOURS and WEEKS working I got B... and the people from my class C, D and D!!!) In Business Studies the same thing I got A but the people from my class A, B, C , U, U , U!!! Yeah!!! 3 Us!!!! I mean... of course to get A in business u need 85% and in Chemistry 60%!!!! so a D in Chemistry does NOT equal an A in Business as some people said!!!
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I have to say I find it somewhat hard to believe that the Maths, Further Maths and Physics syllabusses have more in them than any other subject. I personally have always been annoyed at the lack of material in the Maths course.

Also I did Maths, Further Maths, Physics and Politics at AS and Politics was BY FAR the hardest of the lot!
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Maths and Chemistry are definitely more challenging than most other A-Levle subjects, like French/German/Econ/Business Studies.

But I wouyldn't go so far as to call them 'elite'. It's not like they're mind-blowingly difficult or anything. Like other subjects, it's mostly just practice.
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Maths and Chemistry are definitely more challenging than most other A-Levle subjects, like French/German/Econ/Business Studies.

But I wouyldn't go so far as to call them 'elite'. It's not like they're mind-blowingly difficult or anything. Like other subjects, it's mostly just practice.
I find matsh easier than I found German though. There are no easy and hard subjects, it totally depends on what you're good at, end of story.
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... and people who take psychology, sociology, media studies, business studies etc all feel like they are 'less clever' than people doing mainly science-based subjects, which i think is totally wrong because some people doing sciences wouldn't be very good at the so-called 'soft subjects' would they? I take biology which i get told is the 'easy' science but it's not that easy, it's the hardest of my four subjects. I do sociology too and it's not as easy as everyone thinks and is really useful as it opens your eyes up to the world. Is it just me who gets kinda annoyed about the status of certain subjects? -Rant over-
i find biology the hardest of all my subjects and i do chemistry maths and french. so it shows what rubbish some people come up with to try to put others down. people's minds work differently
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I find matsh easier than I found German though. There are no easy and hard subjects, it totally depends on what you're good at, end of story.
True If you're naturally good at something, I suppose you don't have to pour in as much effort. I've always been quite good at French/German, so didn't really revise for them at all.
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