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Reply 1
Dynamite
Just to clarify, your first year doesn't count for anything does it?
^o).............. I am troubled.
Reply 2
Camford
^o).............. I am troubled.


er......that doesn't answer my question!
I don't think there are any degrees in Cambridge which have their first year counting towards the final grade you graduate with. The vast majority do it all on the 3rd year exams and coursework/dissertation.

Obviously you still have to pass the year to continue. If you take the exams and fail then you'll either have to kiss some serious butt to promise to do better next year, change courses or leave. You can't do a Tripos exam twice so resitting the same year to do the same exams again isn't possible.
Reply 4
Dynamite
er......that doesn't answer my question!
Well... it does, just in a non-obvious way.
Reply 5
So it doesn't count?
Reply 6
It doesn't contribute to your final degree. But if you fail (or even in some circumstances if you piss about all year and get a 3rd) you'll be in some serious trouble.

Medics and vets also have exams with higher pass marks than ordinary Tripos papers, which HAVE to be passed every year.
Reply 7
Of course it counts, if you do **** theyll chuck you out.
L.J
It kind of counts in some subjects. If you want to take the marks of part I and part II then unless you have part IA and IB, first year will be the part I mark (I think this is the case in History of Art). Best to get a 2i. In my college you get *******ed for getting a 2ii or less.


So if you have a:

Part 1A
Part 1B
Part II

then it doesn't count?
According to people in my college (Clare) the only real way to fail your first year prelims is to do absolutely nothing throughout the year. As an Historian, my prelims do not count towards anything. For medics, vets, and several other sbjects, they do. It all depends on teh individual subjects.
L.J
I believe you can quote either 1A or 1B for your part I mark. But you don't have to quote that. You can just take your part II mark, and in fact that's what most people do. It's not like Imperial where your first year is 10% or whatever.


So you can use your first year mark if you want, but you don't have to - right?

and

you can use your third year mark for your whole degree?
Reply 11
You should try and and do well in your first year. I didn't and it makes things a real pain, it's meant I've ended up changing subjects, and will be here for another year, and have to worry about 4th year private accomodation and things. Not to mention that firms will start harassing you from your first year with their career programs and it's all a bit **** if you don't have a 2.i =P
Reply 12
Apparently Trinity are nice and let you stay even if you get a third...sigh
Reply 13
I don't think any college would kick you out for getting a third, it's not only passing but is still honours, but they'd seriously suggest you change subject or consider transferring I suppose.
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Oh Jeanne, do you do Clive Lawson's problems for your stats supervisions? Do you know if any of week 4's need t/chi squared distributions?
Reply 14
Some subjects don't examine in your first year. History for instance.
Others examine every year.
For some subjects it doesn't so much hang on your final grade so much as you are examine every year and that as a whole represents your grae. Not that they total it up but rather that your grade just is the mark you got for each year.

But trying is probably a good idea. If you aren't examined this year then you'll still need to know this stuff for next year. It's a process of learning i.e. building on each year. That's really not a good question to be asking.
Reply 15
homoterror
I don't think any college would kick you out for getting a third, it's not only passing but is still honours, but they'd seriously suggest you change subject or consider transferring I suppose.
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Oh Jeanne, do you do Clive Lawson's problems for your stats supervisions? Do you know if any of week 4's need t/chi squared distributions?

You mean example lectures? If I remember rightly, you have to use t for parts b & c of the second to last question and chi-sqd for the variance bit in the last one...Baron Chan does my supos.
Reply 16
minimo
You mean example lectures? If I remember rightly, you have to use t for parts b & c of the second to last question and chi-sqd for the variance bit in the last one...Baron Chan does my supos.
:wtf?: an ex-mathmo is asking an econ for help? :wtf?:
Reply 17
And there I was thinking the idea of Cambridge was to do some work and learn... or have I got this completely wrong?!
The official viewpoint, from http://www.admin.cam.ac.uk/univ/camdata/tripos.html, gives this:

The way the BA degree is made up in Cambridge is different from the procedure in most other universities. For starters, there is no official class assigned to the overall degree. Instead, each Part of a Tripos that you study is self-contained and you obtain separate results for each one: there is no averaging out for a final degree. (You may have heard the phrase "a double first", which means that a first class was achieved in two sets of examinations corresponding to two different Parts of Triposes.)

Also, your degree certificate will not state the subject(s) that you have studied: the degree you receive is the BA degree. You do not, for example, get a BA in History but you could take a Part I in the Historical Tripos and a Part II in the Historical Tripos and thus qualify for the BA degree.

The University, however, will provide you with a comprehensive transcript listing the papers you took and the results obtained to supplement your degree certificate.

However, I think most employers are ultimately just interested in your final year result, as long as nothing goes too badly wrong in earlier years...
Reply 19
There are benefits of doing well in your first and second years. A lot of colleges give you financial aid in terms of money of college bills, books grants etc as well as a fancy dinner, better place in the room ballot for the year after and you get to say scholar of x college.