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today i saw in the news the national institute for physics (i thinks that its name, and dont go away since i mentioned physics) is going to offer scholarships to students of around £1000 a year to low income students. This apperently would be decided on by means testing. This it seems as been cited by the press as one of the possible consequences of top up fees, with the brightest being attracted by large grants to do paricular insititutions and particular courses because of money.

what do people think about this? intrestingly enought one of the results of this is that chemistry could lose out as a subject since it does not have the funds like physics to support students. Any views welcome.
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today i saw in the news the national institute for physics (i thinks that its name, and dont go away since i mentioned physics) is going to offer scholarships to students of around £1000 a year to low income students. This apperently would be decided on by means testing. This it seems as been cited by the press as one of the possible consequences of top up fees, with the brightest being attracted by large grants to do paricular insititutions and particular courses because of money.

what do people think about this? intrestingly enought one of the results of this is that chemistry could lose out as a subject since it does not have the funds like physics to support students. Any views welcome.
I think the poorer are getting too much help now.
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I think the poorer are getting too much help now.
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Everyone should pay the same providing it doesn't have to be paid upfront.
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I think the poorer are getting too much help now.
What are you on? The poor need all the help they can get.
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I think the poorer are getting too much help now.
why do u say that? is there any particular reason? and what do u think is too much help?
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What are you on? The poor need all the help they can get.
But they do get a lot more help than other students and they do all start out at the same place after their degree.
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do not many people want to do Physics then?
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why do u say that? is there any particular reason? and what do u think is too much help?
I think everyone who is able should be encouraged to do physics, not just the poorer.
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Everyone should pay the same providing it doesn't have to be paid upfront.
surely the fact they are poor ie dont have the ability to pay means they shouldnt have to pay the same espically if they are interlectually capable.
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do not many people want to do Physics then?
Doubt it. Who would?
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surely the fact they are poor ie dont have the ability to pay means they shouldnt have to pay the same espically if they are interlectually capable.
It's a good idea. But a better idea would be for everyone to pay the same but not upfront that way we are all equal
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But they do get a lot more help than other students and they do all start out at the same place after their degree.
Yeah but they do have to finance themselves without as much help from their parents.
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Doubt it. Who would?
erm - i only know one person :rolleyes:
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I think everyone who is able should be encouraged to do physics, not just the poorer.
i agree, 2 things firstly the example i mentioned at the top of this post is an example to encourage the poor but i dont think that will ne necessarily true once top up fees are introduced (if they are) with well off students being offered money as well as poorer ones

2nd thing is responce to daveo yes physics numbers are declining
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Yeah but they do have to finance themselves without as much help from their parents.
Yes that is true actually. I forgot about that. But the new system should help them
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It's a good idea. But a better idea would be for everyone to pay the same but not upfront that way we are all equal
The idea works in theory but I think a lot of people need to think twice about going to uni (people form all classes). University is fine if you are there to make a better life for youself but if you only just got through your A levels and end up going to a crappy uni on a crappy course that person is not likely to get a good job at the end of it.
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Yes that is true actually. I forgot about that. But the new system should help them
True! Lets hope so!
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True! Lets hope so!
I think it is an excellent system and shall help the poorer and wont hurt anyone as they don't have to pay it upfront.

I hope the torys begin to like it to, just incase they win the next election. Although in fairness, they'll have to like it - since there is no other option.
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Doubt it. Who would?
well quite a few bright people would since no many people are doing it, it is a vauable skill to have. and the thread starter is also doing it to add to the list, why what do u want to do if you are going to dismiss physics?
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