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Thankz?

Why do some people still use a z instead of an s for certain words.
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In the US, you can't study medicine straight away - you have to do it as a graduate thing (major in biology or something). Also Harvard require ACT & SAT scores which are American examination systems. Unless you have these, you won't get in.
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Erm, from what little I know about entry to harvard. You will need to take the american SAT's and ACT's alongside your a levels. Also for medicine you have to do an undergraduate degree in some science subject first then you apply to medicine as a 4 year graduate degree.
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In the US, you can't study medicine straight away - you have to do it as a graduate thing (major in biology or something). Also Harvard require ACT & SAT scores which are American examination systems. Unless you have these, you won't get in.
Is that true, i know someone who got in from a british school and i dont think he did this?
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To get into any American uni you need to do either the ACT or SAT, and unless you want to pay $50,000 dollars each year, you'll need to incredibly well in them, and also have loads of extracurricular stuff. The person you know might have gone to US medical school after already having got an undergraduate degree?
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First, unless you have US citizenship or a green-card, studying medicine even at the graduate level (as said above you can't at the undergraduate level), you have virtually 0 chance of getting in.

Secondly, for admission into Harvard for your undergraduate generally, you'll need TOP grades - you're talking about literally the best university in the world, so think far in advance of what you would need for the likes of Oxbridge. Harvard (and top US schools in general) have the lowest acceptance rates in the world and from the UK last year, Harvard received over 900 applications and they gave out 3 offers. 1/300 is incredibly slim, so you'll need to stand out (i.e. have excellent EC's, think Olympic/national athlete or having published books etc), straight A* grades are the BARE minimum.

I went through the process last year and was fortunately made an offer (though I choose Yale instead for personal reasons), but it was a process which was far more difficult/stressful than applying to Oxbridge, which felt like a walk in the park almost by comparison.
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Is that true, i know someone who got in from a british school and i dont think he did this?
Unless the guy was from China (i.e. countries where you cannot sit the SAT/ACT), you're lying or have been lied to as that's impossible frankly. Its part of the admissions requirements for ALL students - regardless of what country you are from and in the UK in particular, you are outside the US/Canada/Mexico, pretty much guaranteed to find a test centre which administrates the SAT/ACT.
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First, unless you have US citizenship or a green-card, studying medicine even at the graduate level (as said above you can't at the undergraduate level), you have virtually 0 chance of getting in.

Secondly, for admission into Harvard for your undergraduate generally, you'll need TOP grades - you're talking about literally the best university in the world, so think far in advance of what you would need for the likes of Oxbridge. Harvard (and top US schools in general) have the lowest acceptance rates in the world and from the UK last year, Harvard received over 900 applications and they gave out 3 offers. 1/300 is incredibly slim, so you'll need to stand out (i.e. have excellent EC's, think Olympic/national athlete or having published books etc), straight A* grades are the BARE minimum.

I went through the process last year and was fortunately made an offer (though I choose Yale instead for personal reasons), but it was a process which was far more difficult/stressful than applying to Oxbridge, which felt like a walk in the park almost by comparison.
WOW well doen for getting in man, so did you have to do the sat thingys then, im guessing you did not pay the huge fees?
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Thankz?

Why do some people still use a z instead of an s for certain words.
Well if he ends up in America ... :P
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WOW well doen for getting in man, so did you have to do the sat thingys then, im guessing you did not pay the huge fees?

Of course I had to do the SAT's - its like saying did I have to sit A-levels to get into university here in the UK. They are the prerequisites/requirements you NEED to have - not some optional thing.

You'll need to thus sit the SAT and then a further two SAT Subject exams - all of which is a huge pain in the arse if I'm being honest.

And what fees are you talking about? If you mean test fees, application fees and other such fees, then yes I did - about $100 per test, another $20 to send scores to each college and also $100 per application to a college. All adds up.

If you mean tuition fees, then yes I have to pay them when I start my freshman (first) year in August.
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Of course I had to do the SAT's - its like saying did I have to sit A-levels to get into university here in the UK. They are the prerequisites/requirements you NEED to have - not some optional thing.

You'll need to thus sit the SAT and then a further two SAT Subject exams - all of which is a huge pain in the arse if I'm being honest.

And what fees are you talking about? If you mean test fees, application fees and other such fees, then yes I did - about $100 per test, another $20 to send scores to each college and also $100 per application to a college. All adds up.

If you mean tuition fees, then yes I have to pay them when I start my freshman (first) year in August.
wow, what were you gcses and as level grades or do they not take them into account as much as its about the sat's. ohh roughly how much are the tuition fees a year for a british student. :confused:
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wow, what were you gcses and as level grades or do they not take them into account as much as its about the sat's. ohh roughly how much are the tuition fees a year for a british student. :confused:
GCSE/A-level/SAT grades all matter. As for fees, it shall be $50k in my case (though closer to about $60k factoring in living expenses etc) and rarely (i.e. unless you own no home/cars/other assets/investment/have no savings - all verified by bank/government statements etc) do you get full financial aid - in other words you pay nothing. But as I said, you have to meet the conditions I stated in my sentence above for you to get full FA.
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Is that true, i know someone who got in from a british school and i dont think he did this?
No, it's definitely true. See: Harvard website.
http://www.admissions.college.harvar...nal/tests.html
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Harvard (and top US schools in general) have the lowest acceptance rates in the world.
No they don't. Check out the acceptance rates for IIT in India, or University of Seoul in Korea.
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No they don't. Check out the acceptance rates for IIT in India, or University of Seoul in Korea.
The lowest acceptance rates in consideration with their ranks - the Ivy leagues are the best universities in the world, whereas USK or IIT are not, and amongst the Top 20 etc the Ivy Leagues have the lowest rates.

Of course when you look at things from a general perspective (i.e. university by university basis), you'll find differences in application rates due to various things.
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(Original post by manchild007)
The lowest acceptance rates in consideration with their ranks - the Ivy leagues are the best universities in the world, whereas USK or IIT are not, and amongst the Top 20 etc the Ivy Leagues have the lowest rates.

Of course when you look at things from a general perspective (i.e. university by university basis), you'll find differences in application rates due to various things.
Changing your story now, eh? You originally said:
Harvard (and top US schools in general) have the lowest acceptance rates in the world
Sorry couldn't resist (insert random emodicon)
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Changing your story now, eh? You originally said:


Sorry couldn't resist (insert random emodicon)
Jesus H Christ :rolleyes:

Are you really this stupid or are you just trolling? I fear if its the former frankly, as such presumption in logic is astounding.

Of course you'll have some random universities who have theoretically the lowest acceptance rates in the world - there is an agricultural college here in the UK that has about 3,000 applicants but takes in like 10 students for example. Does that lead to any meaningful conclusion when comparing it to top universities in the US and the likes of Oxbridge here in the UK? No, of course it doesn't, as we are only interested in comparing the most prestigious/highly ranked universities here - not every Tom, **** and Harry institution out their in the world.
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Jesus H Christ :rolleyes:

Are you really this stupid or are you just trolling? I fear if its the former frankly, as such presumption in logic is astounding.

Of course you'll have some random universities who have theoretically the lowest acceptance rates in the world - there is an agricultural college here in the UK that has about 3,000 applicants but takes in like 10 students for example. Does that lead to any meaningful conclusion when comparing it to top universities in the US and the likes of Oxbridge here in the UK? No, of course it doesn't, as we are only interested in comparing the most prestigious/highly ranked universities here - not every Tom, **** and Harry institution out their in the world.
Not that clever then?
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Not that clever then?
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Oh noz, a grammar mistake has been made on an anonymous internet forum - this of course is obviously indicative of ones intellect in real life, as an anonymous internet forum = real life. With that level of logic and reasoning, I look forward to seeing you win the Nobel Prize :rolleyes:

You pleb.
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