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Hey there!
Have recently dropped out of UCL, absolutely hated it...and no it wasn;t because I had bad grades!!! If you wanna know why UCL is such a ****hole then get back to me and I'll be glad to save you making the same mistake as me!
Anyway, any info on Oxford Brookes? People? Social Life?
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Hey there!
Have recently dropped out of UCL, absolutely hated it...and no it wasn;t because I had bad grades!!! If you wanna know why UCL is such a ****hole then get back to me and I'll be glad to save you making the same mistake as me!
Anyway, any info on Oxford Brookes? People? Social Life?
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Marina
Sorry don't know much about Oxford Brookes - has a bit of a reputation for being full of rich kids who can't get into Oxford but I don't know whether or not that's justified.
Just out of interest.....what was wrong with UCL?
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Sorry don't know much about Oxford Brookes - has a bit of a reputation for being full of rich kids who can't get into Oxford but I don't know whether or not that's justified.
Just out of interest.....what was wrong with UCL?
Ok, well here's the info on socialsing...the union is about as lively as an old people's home and hate to say it but if you're anything but asian, you'll stick out like a sire thumb. Union requires you to queue for ages before getting in and drinks are pricey considering its for students. Then after you go in search of some real entertainment, and you will after the UCL union shambles, you'll be faced with typical up their own arse london clubs with a tenner entry fee and extortionate drinks prices. Don;t expect more than 3 drinks for under a tenner. See what I mean?
And that's just the socialising...
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I live very near the Brookes main campus so I know a bit about the uni. The main buildings are quite ugly (not that it really matters), but there are loads of nice new halls of residence going up near them. Some halls are located almost two miles away in Cowley -- they're probably best avoided, although there is a good linking bus service. Don't expect it to be like Oxford University, it's got none of the glamour and it's up the hill here in Headington (a fairly boring suburb, I should know I've lived in it for eighteen years), and indeed bits of it are at Wheatley (a large village a few miles outside Oxford) and Harcourt Hill (again outside Oxford, on the other side). There are good bus routes though.

Socially it's always seemed a jolly university to me, but I have of course only been looking at it from the outside. However Oxford is an expensive city, house rents are about the same as London, and other prices are almost as high.

However to be honest if you are good enough to get a place at UCL then you should perhaps be looking at somewhere a bit better academically than Brookes?
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I live very near the Brookes main campus so I know a bit about the uni. The main buildings are quite ugly (not that it really matters), but there are loads of nice new halls of residence going up near them. Some halls are located almost two miles away in Cowley -- they're probably best avoided, although there is a good linking bus service. Don't expect it to be like Oxford University, it's got none of the glamour and it's up the hill here in Headington (a fairly boring suburb, I should know I've lived in it for eighteen years), and indeed bits of it are at Wheatley (a large village a few miles outside Oxford) and Harcourt Hill (again outside Oxford, on the other side). There are good bus routes though.

Socially it's always seemed a jolly university to me, but I have of course only been looking at it from the outside. However Oxford is an expensive city, house rents are about the same as London, and other prices are almost as high.

However to be honest if you are good enough to get a place at UCL then you should perhaps be looking at somewhere a bit better academically than Brookes?
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But I find that the problem with going to these well known and good rep unis is that most people (and I do hate to generalise but I discovered this in my own experience) are complete bores with their heads always in the books. They also attract the rich kids who pay their way in and walk around in the latest dior. I just want to be somewhere not to far from home but with people who are down to earth and know how 2 have a good time.
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But I find that the problem with going to these well known and good rep unis is that most people (and I do hate to generalise but I discovered this in my own experience) are complete bores with their heads always in the books. They also attract the rich kids who pay their way in and walk around in the latest dior. I just want to be somewhere not to far from home but with people who are down to earth and know how 2 have a good time.

hiya

I know plenty of people who have a great time at Brookes. As for rich kids in the latest dior, you'll find that anywhere to some extent. Go for it i reckon.
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But I find that the problem with going to these well known and good rep unis is that most people (and I do hate to generalise but I discovered this in my own experience) are complete bores with their heads always in the books. They also attract the rich kids who pay their way in and walk around in the latest dior. I just want to be somewhere not to far from home but with people who are down to earth and know how 2 have a good time.

I can sympathise how you are/have not been able to fit in. I myself attended a rock bottom comprehensive school and was in for quite a culture shock during the first few months at university. Although, I personally loved the experience myself.

In all honesty, if you go to a former poly instead of University College, you are going to at best gain a degree that's seen as being vastly inferior in the eyes of pretty much every employer and any grad. school. The choice is yours.
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Somehow I find it hard to believe that someone is seriously considering moving from UCL to Oxford Brookes- no offence, but there's a huge difference between the two unis in terms of reputation, teaching etc.

Why Oxford Brookes? Why not somewhere better like Southampton, Reading etc- these unis are in the approximate area and are better, although not as good as UCL.

TBH, I don't see what's wrong with UCL. Through AIESEC I work with a lot of UCL students (I'm at LSE personally) and they all seem to be having a pretty good time and like their courses. On top of that, UCL's events aren't too bad- sure, they aren't the best in the world but they're probably better than Oxford Brookes', especially when you consider UCL is part of ULU meaning that you can also go to ULU and other UoL colleges.
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Somehow I find it hard to believe that someone is seriously considering moving from UCL to Oxford Brookes- no offence, but there's a huge difference between the two unis in terms of reputation, teaching etc.

Why Oxford Brookes? Why not somewhere better like Southampton, Reading etc- these unis are in the approximate area and are better, although not as good as UCL.

TBH, I don't see what's wrong with UCL. Through AIESEC I work with a lot of UCL students (I'm at LSE personally) and they all seem to be having a pretty good time and like their courses. On top of that, UCL's events aren't too bad- sure, they aren't the best in the world but they're probably better than Oxford Brookes', especially when you consider UCL is part of ULU meaning that you can also go to ULU and other UoL colleges.
Don't think I'm making this decision lightly. I've done alot of research and it seems this whole uni rep business is a load of *******s. Lets take to prime examples:
My sister, 28 years old, 2:1 from Anglia Polytechnic Uni (****), currently in a £70 grand a year job.
My cousin, 26 years old, 2:1 from Westminister Uni (****), currently in a £64 grand a year job.
Also, since I dropped out I have being temping at a recruitment specialist within the city and spoke to the company MD regarding how they view degrees from different Unis and was told that a degree is simply a way of measuring your capability, regardless of where it was obtained. See my point?

And to be honest, if some employer decides against hiring me purely because I'm not a red brick Uni graduate, then I don;t think I want to be working for such an up'its-own company anyway.#

So yes believe it. The only reason I've chosen Oxford Brookes is because it does the exact 3year course I want to where as the others are 4 years and I don;t want to add to the time I've already wasted at UCL. As for Southampton and Reading, yes, they are also on my UCAS.
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I think your sister and your cousin are exceptions, not the rule. Also if they got there with degrees from "****" unis then they may be even more successful now if they had gone to good unis. And it's perfectly reasonable for employers to take where prospective employees took their degree into account, as along with the degree class it gives a good idea of the person's calibre.
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Sorry don't know much about Oxford Brookes - has a bit of a reputation for being full of rich kids who can't get into Oxford but I don't know whether or not that's justified.
Just out of interest.....what was wrong with UCL?
Nothing is wrong with UCL, dont worry.
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Don't think I'm making this decision lightly. I've done alot of research and it seems this whole uni rep business is a load of *******s. Lets take to prime examples:
My sister, 28 years old, 2:1 from Anglia Polytechnic Uni (****), currently in a £70 grand a year job.
My cousin, 26 years old, 2:1 from Westminister Uni (****), currently in a £64 grand a year job.
Also, since I dropped out I have being temping at a recruitment specialist within the city and spoke to the company MD regarding how they view degrees from different Unis and was told that a degree is simply a way of measuring your capability, regardless of where it was obtained. See my point?

And to be honest, if some employer decides against hiring me purely because I'm not a red brick Uni graduate, then I don;t think I want to be working for such an up'its-own company anyway.#

So yes believe it. The only reason I've chosen Oxford Brookes is because it does the exact 3year course I want to where as the others are 4 years and I don;t want to add to the time I've already wasted at UCL. As for Southampton and Reading, yes, they are also on my UCAS.
All the big companies do discriminate. If certain people you know have been successful, a, it was a different era and now the job market is far more competitive. b, they would have been more successful had they gone somewhere half decent, c, they're exceptions to the rule.

The last point is certainly valid. There's extensive research on the earnings gap. Granted that not everyone is at Univ. to boost their earning potential. Some are there for hard work, others for status. A degree at a traditional univ. is considered to be far more rigorous, also has with it far higher status. According to a stat. we were given at LSE's graduation, which you may take lightly, the a/v university student takes out 50 books per academic year. The a/v LSE student takes out 250 books, it would seem as though there is a slight discrepancy! This stat. was obtained via an independent study. You can imagine that institutions like UCL/Warwick/Notts/IC/Bristol/& obviously Oxbridge have figures similar to the LSE a/v, whereas the former Poly's have figures even below 50, to make up that average!

This is precisely the sort of gap people are now so aware of, that's why employers/grad schools OPNELY discriminate. That's even in their official literature!
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I went to a Brookes open day and didnt rate it much. Its pricey and seemed up itsb own arse. Where else have you applied?
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I went to a Brookes open day and didnt rate it much. Its pricey and seemed up itsb own arse. Where else have you applied?
Hehe, for some bizarre reason I put Brookes down as one of my CPE choices. :P
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Hehe, for some bizarre reason I put Brookes down as one of my CPE choices. :P
Did you go on an open day? that was what put me off.
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Did you go on an open day? that was what put me off.
Nope, the *******s rejected me. I only put it as my 1st choice becuase I'd get auto-entry into the Oxford Institute.
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Nope, the *******s rejected me. I only put it as my 1st choice becuase I'd get auto-entry into the Oxford Institute.
Ah well you didnt need em anyway!!
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I don't think its correct to the say that the students from the good universities always have their heads in their books. UCL, Imperial, Oxbridge etc are welll respected universities. I know people at Manchester that seem to do less woprk than me and I am at Salford. I think it depends more on the course other than the university. Whats wrong with looking at places like Manchester, Newcastle ,Southampton etc? They are all better than Oxford Brookes.
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if you're looking for fun, brookes student union is quite good- like a while ago feeder played there. and headington, although rubbish in itself, is quite quick to get into oxford on the bus. apprently some of the departments are quite good these days, e.g for modern languages.

alexander - i live round the corner from brookes too! small world.
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I went to a Brookes open day and didnt rate it much. Its pricey and seemed up itsb own arse. Where else have you applied?
Why did it seem up its own arse?
I've also applied to Southampton, Reading, Bournemouth and Portsmouth.
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