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I would not like to go to an institution (in this country) where as a white person I felt in a minority.

Does this make me a racist too?
Get over yourself. There is more to *any* institution than its ethnic composition. It seems like the point you are trying to make is that you would sabotage the said institution (regardless of any other factor, such as the quality of its product) as a political rebellion to this country ever becoming a truly multicultural society.

It doesn't necessarily make you racist, just very ignorant.
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I wouldnt want to go because people of the same ethnic background normally stick together, thus I could find an element of exclusion. It would be evident that I was not one of their group and thus social interaction could be more difficult.

I dont have any probems with Asians as such, I have friends who are Asian or Black and we all get on very well however just because I would not want to go to a University with an Asian majority does not make me a racist, I would see it as more of a personal choice.

Am I allowed a personal choice or are we all being so P.C. that no one is allowed to say anything anymore?

A while back in Manchester one of the muslim groups decided to protest outside the university campaigning for the abolition of the uni's Jewish society? Is this racist too or just an expression of free speech?

Firstly, do not give me all that crap about PC, you may say whatever you please, be as controversial as you like.

From your reasoning, I wouldn’t label it as racism. Although, I’d say that it’s exaggerated. Firstly, you are right, it’s obvious to anyone that people of the same ethnic/religious background do often stick together. You’re of the opinion that this leads to exclusion, I am not. That’s all. From my experiences, people have several different networks of friends whilst at univ, i.e. typically your course mates, flat mates, people at the various societies you join, your boozing types, your study group and the so on. Some of these groups may well be established on ethnic lines. However, you do not feel excluded on a more broader level, as any one individual at univ fits into several different groupings, many of which are clearly not going to be on ethnic lines. This is inevitable if you are actually seeking to socialise whilst at Univ.

As for the Muslim group you refer to, if they’re suggesting that this group be banned due to it being Jewish, then it’s racism. It would not constitute racism if they’re suggesting it be banned due to its political stance on the Middle East (for .e.g). That’s not because the latter claim is any more valid (although it could be), rather because the criticism of the Jewish group is not on the grounds of race.
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(Original post by Mentally Ill)
Get over yourself. There is more to *any* institution than its ethnic composition. It seems like the point you are trying to make is that you would sabotage the said institution (regardless of any other factor, such as the quality of its product) as a political rebellion to this country ever becoming a truly multicultural society.
Have you been drinking the demestos again? Or just eating too much vapor-rub?
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WTF is the matter with some people? I stated that I would not like to go to a university where I was in a vast minority and all of a sudden I am like the next Hitler or something .
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Have you been drinking the demestos again? Or just eating too much vapor-rub?
Domestos - learn to spell.

What the **** does Domestos or Vapor-rub have to do with anything? You see, ****ing ignorant.
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WTF is the matter with some people? I stated that I would not like to go to a university where I was in a vast minority and all of a sudden I am like the next Hitler or something .

I take it that wasn't a reply to my response.
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(Original post by Mentally Ill)
Get over yourself. There is more to *any* institution than its ethnic composition. It seems like the point you are trying to make is that you would sabotage the said institution (regardless of any other factor, such as the quality of its product) as a political rebellion to this country ever becoming a truly multicultural society.
I understand what you are saying, it just does not make any sense in the context of the argument.
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WTF is the matter with some people? I stated that I would not like to go to a university where I was in a vast minority and all of a sudden I am like the next Hitler or something .
This forum is a joke.
Im in the same boat as you Mark and yes I too would opt for a University where I was not in a vast minority.
To all of you who object to this opinion, yes you mentally ill (what an apt name) and llama boy, quite franky I dont give a flying ****.
I know I am not a racist as I have mates of all nationalities but in UCL there was a stupid amount of segregation hugely on the part of asians as in they hung around in groups of their own race and whether you accept it or not its hard not to feel isolated in such an environment. I've lived in London all my life so don't think im some country bumpkin thats just had a major culture shock. I didn't like the idea that I too was a foreigner in my own country and yes i do appreciate a multicultural society but not hen its dominated by only one culture and not whens it shoved in my face.
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This forum is a joke.
Im in the same boat as you Mark and yes I too would opt for a University where I was not in a vast minority.
To all of you who object to this opinion, yes you mentally ill (what an apt name) and llama boy, quite franky I dont give a flying ****.
I know I am not a racist as I have mates of all nationalities but in UCL there was a stupid amount of segregation hugely on the part of asians as in they hung around in groups of their own race and whether you accept it or not its hard not to feel isolated in such an environment. I've lived in London all my life so don't think im some country bumpkin thats just had a major culture shock. I didn't like the idea that I too was a foreigner in my own country and yes i do appreciate a multicultural society but not hen its dominated by only one culture and not whens it shoved in my face.
This is exactly what I was trying to point out.
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Is it not ironic that we have someone on here using the name "mentally ill" calling people idiots for being "ignorant" whilst being totally ignorant to the fact that their own name could cause offence to people with mental disabilities?
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where does all the anger come from, spread the love hahahahahahahaha................ ............no seriously
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to marina----now u know what it feels like to be a foreigner in europe ..deal with it!!!!
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to marina----now u know what it feels like to be a foreigner in europe ..deal with it!!!!
marina - defending ur position shows that you do realise that ur comments were offensive because ur guilty conscience is clearly governing the way you are replying
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Nooooo! I spent so long deliberating over my uni choices I don't want to be disorientated by an angry, biased ranter. I've got UCL down as my insurance choice after Cambridge for Archaeology because the impression I had of it was excellent. I spoke to lots of people who had studied there, and people who work in archaeological or related fields and all held the department in high esteem. Some said it was as good if not better than Cambridge, particularly if you wanted to be a professional archaeologist. I feel the mystifying force of confusion descending!

However, the social life must be what you make of it, because if you know London, as I do, there is always something to do, plenty of it free (Southbank, Barbican, Camden etc etc) and if you go to local places the drink prices drop without leaving the atmosphere behind. I know I'm starting to gush, but really I just need to reassure myself that if I don't make my Cam offer, I'm still going to a decent place!

If someone less obviously bitter can confirm Marina183's opinion can you do so now before I send off my UCAS form!!! Thankoo
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However, the social life must be what you make of it, because if you know London, as I do, there is always something to do, plenty of it free (Southbank, Barbican, Camden etc etc) and if you go to local places the drink prices drop without leaving the atmosphere behind.
er local places? i'm still yet to find anywhere in london besides wetherspoons where you can get an archers and lemonade for less than £2, average price is still £2.50 grr

ucl isnt a bad place (i would *never* go there but meh thats me..) and i'm sure you'll have a great time, are you from london then? you'll know what its like living with a large asian community, something i weirdly miss whilst up in nottingham. what are your other choices?
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Though I identify with my fellow Englishmen more.
Me too, probably why most of my friends are english and those that aren't grew up in england anyway.
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er local places? i'm still yet to find anywhere in london besides wetherspoons where you can get an archers and lemonade for less than £2, average price is still £2.50 grr

ucl isnt a bad place (i would *never* go there but meh thats me..) and i'm sure you'll have a great time, are you from london then? you'll know what its like living with a large asian community, something i weirdly miss whilst up in nottingham. what are your other choices?
well, £2 is expensive depending how much you drink. For me that's pretty decent. but hey. woah. stop there. I sound like some anal teetotaller. that's not what i meant, what I meant is £2 is not much for a rummandcoke but then I'm still scrounging off my parents. In which case I guess I should really shut my face. Which I shall do shortly. When I have finished rambling. Coz there are some decent small pubs around with live music, comedy and stuff. The 100 Club, the George Canning etc. Anyway....

Why would you "*never*" go to UCL?

Oh, and yes, I live in London, have always lived in London, and will probably spend the rest of my life living in London, but strangely no I don't know what its like living with a large asian community. Sounds odd huh? Its coz I live with an Afro-Caribbean community, and study with the white M/C in Dulwich. wahay. A Londoner to the soul.

Shut up Ambrose.

Ok

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hehe do you often talk to yourself? perhaps ucl would be a good place for you...

my auntie lives in dulwich, lovely place that it is. maybe its only north london that predominantly asian. and no £2 *is* expensive darnit! i want a triple malibu and coke for £2.10 grr!

as for the rest check you pms
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Is there anyone on here who gos to UCL and likes it? I was considering firmly accepting UCL but I'm getting doubts now so someone please come and tell me how great it is.
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This thread keeps cropping up, let it die a death already, its the most destructive thing I have ever read. marina started this to disuade people from going to UCL and I think shes succeeded. Its ONE PERSONS OPINION for gods sake. This thread has debated the worth of UCL and umpteen racist issues. Thats enough please. (though I have to say marina is quite hot ive seen her photo on the members pix website lol)
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