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    who on earth cuts themselves because it's cool? Surely that doesn't happen?
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    (Original post by mousey)
    who on earth cuts themselves because it's cool? Surely that doesn't happen?
    complete idiots, that's who. When I was at school there was a group of girls in the year below me who *all* cut themselves. I have no idea why. As soon as the ringleader left school, they all miraculously quit :rolleyes:
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    Stats show that women make more attempts than men at committing suicide, yet there aren't more female suicides.
    Well, those stats may well be true, but there's something that they don't show...women are more likely than men to choose a suicide method that is not guaranteed to kill them.

    Anyway, I've had a couple of things happen to me since I last posted, and my depression has become a LOT worse. My latest test on the BDI has reflected this - a jump from 19 to 31 in all of a day and a half...

    I really feel like crap right now, but I'm hoping to go out tonight and hope that the socialising will brighten me up. Here's hoping

    God, I really hate depression, but it's been with me all through my teens...severe depression didn't kick in until I was 16, but I can remember having mild depression when I was 13.

    Have lost all motivation to do anything, and am having lots of horrible thoughts - it's SO hard forcing myself not to believe the stuff I'm making up in my mind...at least I got to put some proper input into this topic and others before my mind went back to this hellish state.
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    for all of those who are considering suicide or are seriously depressed....you shud consider my personal experience...

    i felt really down about a year ago and felt life was ****-however...

    ...after i experienced doing pills with my mates it completely changed my outlook on life-especially when not on pills...


    since then ive always been positive bout my life and thought that theres always someone worse off than me

    i began to appreciate my mates and my family, and was grateful for the fact that im here and im healthy-i got busy living cos i realised that we only life once i we shud try to enjoy it

    *moderators plz dont take this off as im speaking about my personal experiences and want to say that if anyone wants to do pills that is THEIR CHOICE and they shud first know of the risks involved and research the topic-once again to reiterate im not encouraging ppl to do them im just sharing my personal experiences
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    (Original post by old_skool)
    since then ive always been positive bout my life
    I did the same since developing severe depression, but in all honesty that outlook will always only last so long...it always crumbles after a while and you've got to rebuild it.
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    (Original post by SamTheMan)
    Sorry for taking a sexist stance but it seems like a lot of girls consider suicide more as a "cry for a help". I don't like the look of some of the posts here which are trivialising suicide. Sure it might be cool to pretend to be suicidal when you're 16 and you're trying to be a goth but let's not promote it. It's almost as if some people are trying to show off.

    Stats show that women make more attempts than men at committing suicide, yet there aren't more female suicides.

    Suicide is when you take a drastic decision to end your life because you're in constant emotional pain when living, not something you actually do because you feel depressed because you're not getting on with your family or friends and you feel depressed. Sure, everyone considers suicide as an option when things are getting them down but that's still a million miles away from jumping off a bridge or in front of a train.
    It depends on the method one uses.

    With all due respect, you take this stance frequently. Any particular reason?

    I try not to generalise.
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    (Original post by SamTheMan)
    By "talking about suicide" I meant people saying they're going to commit suicide.

    There's a big difference between someone who's going to commit suicide and someone who stays complacently in a depression mode and goes on about suicide without any real intention to ever kill themselves but who enjoy the image it gives them: for example, I have no sympathy for self-involved goth girls who slit superficially their wrists to get marks and who want to make everyone know they're suicidal because they think it's cool.

    After what I went through with the people around me, I know full well that people who suffer deeply from depression and who are really in trouble don't wear black makeup and listen to **** music. Those are the people who trivialise it and whom my first post was directed at.
    There you go again!
    (Enough with the careless generalisations already. Or I'll throw in a few of my own!)
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    Isn't suicide the second biggest killer of young men after road accidents?. meh.
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    just to add to my happiness i've been dumoed and i feel like ****. this is going to be a fun night
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    (Original post by xXMessedUpXx)
    just to add to my happiness i've been dumoed and i feel like ****. this is going to be a fun night
    If you wanna chat PM me.
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    (Original post by old skool)
    for all of those who are considering suicide or are seriously depressed....you shud consider my personal experience...

    i felt really down about a year ago and felt life was ****-however...

    ...after i experienced doing pills with my mates it completely changed my outlook on life-especially when not on pills...


    since then ive always been positive bout my life and thought that theres always someone worse off than me

    i began to appreciate my mates and my family, and was grateful for the fact that im here and im healthy-i got busy living cos i realised that we only life once i we shud try to enjoy it

    *moderators plz dont take this off as im speaking about my personal experiences and want to say that if anyone wants to do pills that is THEIR CHOICE and they shud first know of the risks involved and research the topic-once again to reiterate im not encouraging ppl to do them im just sharing my personal experiences
    yes a drug addiction will help me no end...
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    (Original post by Indus1986)
    Isn't suicide the second biggest killer of young men after road accidents?. meh.
    Probably. Isn't sexual abuse one of the biggest triggers of mental illness among young women? Meh!

    And let's not even enter the realm of domestic violence!

    Meh again!
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    Hysterical, she's fookin hysterical. Women, meh!
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    (Original post by xXMessedUpXx)
    yes a drug addiction will help me no end...
    you dont get addicted an u only have to do it once to feel better-and you still keep the sense of happiness wen ur off them
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    (Original post by BellaCat)
    There you go again!
    (Enough with the careless generalisations already. Or I'll throw in a few of my own!)
    Generalisations and tendencies are not to be mixed up. Without what you call "generalisations" you wouldn't even have much to learn at high school and wouldn't be going to uni. Observing the general character of people and issues is at the heart of many things in life. Without them, there would be no lessons learned.

    It depends on the method one uses.

    With all due respect, you take this stance frequently. Any particular reason?

    I try not to generalise.
    A sexist stance? Because there's a big difference of attitude between men and women when it comes to this but of course, actually noticing this and knowing this would be a... "generalisation" (oh horror!) so let's just cover our eyes in order to avoid that.

    If you had lost one of your best friends in high school to suicide and then have to endure seeing self-obsessed little 15 year old girls exposing superficial cuts on their arms because they want to appear like goths and because "suicide is cool" and suicide gets you attention...I think you'd see things a tiny bit different.

    Sorry if I have little sympathy for people who claim to be suicidal because of issues that happen to everyone who gets a bit depressed (losing a job, getting dumped, getting grounded by your parents).
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    (Original post by SamTheMan)
    Sorry if I have little sympathy for people who claim to be suicidal because of issues that happen to everyone who gets a bit depressed (losing a job, getting dumped, getting grounded by your parents).
    People cope differently, there are varying degrees of depression. Whilst losing a job may not affect one person it could ush another over the edge.

    Your making assumptions
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    As for people who are genuinely suffering from clinical depression and who are struggling to get out of it and who try so hard to get out of it, I have every sympathy and if a friend were to go through what I've seen, I'd be supporting them as much as I could. They truly suffer. Their lives appear to be reduced to nothing.

    But again people who trivialise it and who play a game of "who is the most suicidal"...

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    (Original post by xXMessedUpXx)
    People cope differently, there are varying degrees of depression. Whilst losing a job may not affect one person it could ush another over the edge.

    Your making assumptions
    How does that justify trivialising it?
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    (Original post by SamTheMan)
    Generalisations and tendencies are not to be mixed up. Without what you call "generalisations" you wouldn't even have much to learn at high school and wouldn't be going to uni. Observing the general character of people and issues is at the heart of many things in life. Without them, there would be no lessons learned.



    A sexist stance? Because there's a big difference of attitude between men and women when it comes to this but of course, actually noticing this and knowing this would be a... "generalisation" (oh horror!) so let's just cover our eyes in order to avoid that.

    If you had lost one of your best friends in high school to suicide and then have to endure seeing self-obsessed little 15 year old girls exposing superficial cuts on their arms because they want to appear like goths and because "suicide is cool" and suicide gets you attention...I think you'd see things a tiny bit different.

    Sorry if I have little sympathy for people who claim to be suicidal because of issues that happen to everyone who gets a bit depressed (losing a job, getting dumped, getting grounded by your parents).
    None of which apply to me.

    (Are childhood sexual abuse and witnessing domestic violence good enough 'reasons' for depression in your not so humble opinion? And have you never heard of endogenous depression?)

    Oh, and FYI I have also lost friends to suicide.
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    Depression. Fair enough. Where have I said that people aren't allowed to be depressed? Depression is very common. Actually making the decision to end your life is not and not something to be trivialised and used to get attention because someone is so self-involved.
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    i have had suicidal thoughts a few times in my life, never actually done anything, because i always think of how my family and friends would feel if they found out i had commited suicide, especially for the person who had to find me and i know they would be devastated. i have had mild depressin before and just recently was depressed, but i am trying to work through it and take each day as it comes. i mean there has got to be something positive worth living for, not forgetting of course the people surrounding you in life.
 
 
 
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