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    let me put it this way, if you were offered some cheese to eat, or some gravy to drink, you would probably choose the cheese. unless you dont like cheese, in which case your allowed to choose gravy, but if you do like cheese you should be ashamed

    i appologise for my insistance, i just really like cheese
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    Yea - but you should look at the vernacular language of this country...If you are said to have a nice job, say at the BBC, you are said to be on the Gravy Train - not the cheesy train (i think thats some cheap porn film anyway - and, if its not, it should be...).
    Also - Gravy is the sauce that accompanies our national dish, and as patriots we all love Roast Beef with Yorkshire Puddings and Gravy! It is, infact, the whole basis of our national cuisine!

    Gravy is something you associate with proper meals, whereas cheese simply isn't to the same extent - as you say, cheese on toast, sandwiches, pasta and cheese - they're "in-between" meals
    Also, you do not have cheese sauce on christmas day!
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    anyone like cold gravy on a baked potato with lots of butter, salt and pepper ? I do..
    mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mmm

    cheese has its merits. I love it, and Ihave to say that ENgland has the best cheeses I have ever tasted i.e. Stinking Biship is faaab. mmm and you can make cheese sauce to put over cauliflower mmmm whcih you can then pour gravy over.

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    Cauliflower with cheese sauce is a MUST on Christmas Day !!

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    And, Biker, Cheese is a whole course! Entree, Main, Pud and then CHeeeeese........
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    im sorry, but the last time i checked macaroni cheese was a proper meal, as is lasagne, or pizza, or mousakka or a cheeseburger.

    so gravy is poured on our national meal, doesnt mean it is better then cheese, in fact, gravy isnt really known to be used for much else then our national meal (i know it is used on chips and sausages, but lets be honest, its main use are roasts) and why does that have any relevance to whether gravy is better then cheese.

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    and also, cheese is universal, british, irish, french, dutch, italian. all have famous cheeses.
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    (Original post by El Zofran)
    im sorry, but the last time i checked macaroni cheese was a proper meal, as is lasagne, or pizza, or mousakka or a cheeseburger.

    so gravy is poured on our national meal, doesnt mean it is better then cheese, in fact, gravy isnt really known to be used for much else then our national meal (i know it is used on chips and sausages, but lets be honest, its main use are roasts) and why does that have any relevance to whether gravy is better then cheese.
    agreed. the two are equally delicious, let there be cheese and gravy together!

    actually, that sounds a bit rude :eek:
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    (Original post by El Zofran)
    im sorry, but the last time i checked macaroni cheese was a proper meal, as is lasagne, or pizza, or mousakka or a cheeseburger.

    so gravy is poured on our national meal, doesnt mean it is better then cheese, in fact, gravy isnt really known to be used for much else then our national meal (i know it is used on chips and sausages, but lets be honest, its main use are roasts) and why does that have any relevance to whether gravy is better then cheese.
    If you notice - i did not acknowledge Macaroni cheese as one of the inferior cheese dishes - since you listed it alongside past and cheese, the example I used was with cheese as a garnish to the pasta.
    Admittedly cheese does form an integral part in many meals, but imagine eating a Roast without Gravy! compare that to a pizza without cheese or a cheeseburger without it its a very different situation.
    Despite being a sauce it is integral in the dish!
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    (Original post by bikerx23)
    If you notice - i did not acknowledge Macaroni cheese as one of the inferior cheese dishes - since you listed it alongside past and cheese, the example I used was with cheese as a garnish to the pasta.
    Admittedly cheese does form an integral part in many meals, but imagine eating a Roast without Gravy! compare that to a pizza without cheese or a cheeseburger without it its a very different situation.
    Despite being a sauce it is integral in the dish!
    err yes, but you don't have to have gravy with a roast. I sometimes make a roast chicken stuffed with herby lemony butter and I don't make a gravy out of that, just pour over the juices mmm yummy yummy

    and pizza without cheese is like life without air - vital!!
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    *stares in horror at the monstrosity of a thread he has created*

    And why did the mods move something which is so obviously a really serious discussion?
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    Hmm...but considering gravy is traditionally a sauce that is made from the by-products of cooking the meat then that is gravy - Hah!
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    how about horseradish? anyone like that more than mustard???
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    (Original post by bikerx23)
    If you notice - i did not acknowledge Macaroni cheese as one of the inferior cheese dishes - since you listed it alongside past and cheese, the example I used was with cheese as a garnish to the pasta.
    Admittedly cheese does form an integral part in many meals, but imagine eating a Roast without Gravy! compare that to a pizza without cheese or a cheeseburger without it its a very different situation.
    Despite being a sauce it is integral in the dish!
    i beg to differ, i find that a roast, if cooked well, can quite easily be eaten with out gravy, but a pizza without cheese? i dont think so, and a lasagne without the cheese sauce just amounts to fancy bolognese
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    ah - a little shop near me makes horseradish mustard its absolutely gorgeous stuff - goes great on steaks...
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    (Original post by bikerx23)
    Hmm...but considering gravy is traditionally a sauce that is made from the by-products of cooking the meat then that is gravy - Hah!
    see first page for how to make gravy. There is a diff between juices and gravy. If you grilled a steak and put it on your plate and then all the juices ran out, would you call the juices gravy?? :P

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    (Original post by bikerx23)
    ah - a little shop near me makes horseradish mustard its absolutely gorgeous stuff - goes great on steaks...
    are you saying they have combined the force of mustard AND horseradish to create - SUPER CONDIMENT???
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    Why not combine the two? You can get cheese bisto...

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    (Original post by El Zofran)
    i beg to differ, i find that a roast, if cooked well, can quite easily be eaten with out gravy, but a pizza without cheese? i dont think so, and a lasagne without the cheese sauce just amounts to fancy bolognese
    You could eat roast potatoes dry? do you have the worlds most powerful saliva glands or something? :eek:
    Pizza Ai frutti di Maré is traditionally made without cheese (trust me - i've just come back from 5 weeks in italy...i know my stuff!)
    Lasagne is also often made in parts of italy with a white sauce rather than a cheese sauce.
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    (Original post by Gem)
    Why not combine the two? You can get cheese bisto...

    http://www.fortune3.com/~comp75285/23962952.jpg
    i think'll you'll find that that is merely cheese sauce

    proof that cheese is better, if instant gravy manufactures have to branch out into cheese to stay afloat
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    (Original post by segat1)
    see first page for how to make gravy. There is a diff between juices and gravy. If you grilled a steak and put it on your plate and then all the juices ran out, would you call the juices gravy?? :P

    are you saying they have combined the force of mustard AND horseradish to create - SUPER CONDIMENT???
    No, obviously gravy production requires an element of spicing, which would be done by the herbs, lemon and butter you added to the chicken....
    obviously poultry is easier to make gravys from because it also yields more juices than red meats do.
    Yes - It is like the pangaea of condiments (pangaea is a super-continent you see )
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    CHEESE RULES! :adore:
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    (Original post by bikerx23)
    You could eat roast potatoes dry? do you have the worlds most powerful saliva glands or something? :eek:
    Pizza Ai frutti di Maré is traditionally made without cheese (trust me - i've just come back from 5 weeks in italy...i know my stuff!)
    Lasagne is also often made in parts of italy with a white sauce rather than a cheese sauce.
    you can have a roast with mash or dauphanoise mmmm

    essentially, a bechamel (the white sauce in lasagne) is white sauce with cheese added. White sauce is made with milk so you could argue that there is a certain amount of dairy already there.

    You NEVER put cheese on a fish dish, like pasta, esp in Italian cooking
    I think you can argue that that which we call pizza is nothing like pizza in Italy!
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    pizza ai fruity tutti or whatever it was may well be traditionally made sans cheese, but good ole plain pizza isnt (or it may be, but as i cant be arsed to google search pizza history, im hoping that isnt)

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    and roast potatos shouldnt be dry
 
 
 
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