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So, i either want to teach Geography or Biology at Secondary school, i enjoy Biology much more and feel more confident in it than Geography.

However, if i did want to teach biology it would be a bit of a struggle in terms of getting onto a PGCE etc etc due to my minium background in sciences (Only biology as a science at a level.... and geography) And i don't want to be disappointed at the end of it all because i reallly want to become a teacher!

However, Geography i don't feel i enjoy it as much and i would just be going for it because it would be the more safe option, could i learn to like it more as i teach it? at least this way it would be more likely i would become a teacher? What is it like teaching Geography? (If there are any Geography/geography training teachers out there)

I would appreciate any feedback as i need to start making decisions especially from Biology/Geography teachers out there too, preferably geography!

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You need to give us a bit more to go on ... what did you study at university?
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You need to give us a bit more to go on ... what did you study at university?
I am not at University yet, so i will either study biomedical science or human biology or human geography, but yes i am just unsure whether it is actuallly worth going for the science option if i won't be able to teach that anyway?

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If you have a biomedical science or human biology degree you will be able to train to teach science with a biology specialism. Why did you think otherwise?
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If you have a biomedical science or human biology degree you will be able to train to teach science with a biology specialism. Why did you think otherwise?
Because quite a few universities say they want 2 science a levels for the PGCE, thought it might be a bit of a struggle to find one that didn't require this and it all may be very difficult.

But more it was when it actually comes to getting employed, i mean as it is biology teachers are least in demand, so surely they would like to see some solid science background in my qualifications, but i would only have the three sciences at GCSE, this is what i don't want it to come to and then not be able to find a job anywhere, the 4 years would be such a waste?

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Because quite a few universities say they want 2 science a levels for the PGCE, thought it might be a bit of a struggle to find one that didn't require this and it all may be very difficult.

But more it was when it actually comes to getting employed, i mean as it is biology teachers are least in demand, so surely they would like to see some solid science background in my qualifications, but i would only have the three sciences at GCSE, this is what i don't want it to come to and then not be able to find a job anywhere, the 4 years would be such a waste?

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It won't be a problem. If Michael Gove has his way, by the time you come to train to teach it is probable there will be very few PGCE courses left and most teachers will train on the job in schools. If you can pick up AS chemistry, I think it would help you with your degree though.
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It won't be a problem. If Michael Gove has his way, by the time you come to train to teach it is probable there will be very few PGCE courses left and most teachers will train on the job in schools. If you can pick up AS chemistry, I think it would help you with your degree though.
Oh really? It's very worring especially with the current economic situation, being at a disadvantage really won't help, and i did start of with Chemistry a level, but i hated it so dropped, it was alright at GCSE, at a level it just wasn't my thing

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Oh really? It's very worring especially with the current economic situation, being at a disadvantage really won't help, and i did start of with Chemistry a level, but i hated it so dropped, it was alright at GCSE, at a level it just wasn't my thing

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Well this is all suggesting that the geography route might be better for you. Most biology teachers teach chemistry (and physics) up to age 16 so it is not ideal for you to "hate" it.

There should be increased demand for geography teachers in the coming years as the English Baccalaureate becomes established.
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Well this is all suggesting that the geography route might be better for you. Most biology teachers teach chemistry (and physics) up to age 16 so it is not ideal for you to "hate" it.

There should be increased demand for geography teachers in the coming years as the English Baccalaureate becomes established.
Yes but i think i would be able to manage up to GCSE with it, a level was a little bit too much thats all.

Yes but then the downside for Geography for me personally is that i don't feel as confident in it as i would with biology, i mean i am no good at things like map skills!

And this is my problem, and i will probably end up making the wrong decision as usual.

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Yes but i think i would be able to manage up to GCSE with it, a level was a little bit too much thats all.

Yes but then the downside for Geography for me personally is that i don't feel as confident in it as i would with biology, i mean i am no good at things like map skills!

And this is my problem, and i will probably end up making the wrong decision as usual.

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i think you have answered your question youself. if you really dont want to teach geography then what is the point in training to teach it? you need to be realy enthusiastic about your subject i feel to be a successful teacher and if you dont want to teach geography then how are you going to try and make the subject interesting and enjoyable for the students?
as said above routes into teaching will have changed a lot by the time you get to the point of needed to apply for training. at the moment focus on trying to get onto your course see what types of courses are out there.

hope that helps a bit
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take a risk! live life on the edge! YEAH!
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i think you have answered your question youself. if you really dont want to teach geography then what is the point in training to teach it? you need to be realy enthusiastic about your subject i feel to be a successful teacher and if you dont want to teach geography then how are you going to try and make the subject interesting and enjoyable for the students?
as said above routes into teaching will have changed a lot by the time you get to the point of needed to apply for training. at the moment focus on trying to get onto your course see what types of courses are out there.

hope that helps a bit
True, but i mean i absolutely love human geograhy but am not tooo keen on physical, don't know if this would be a major problem when teaching but yeah it's the case of going for what i enjoy or what is like the better/more sensible option really, but i guess you are right.

Yes, thanks

I see you are doing BA Geography, how is it?
And how you feeling about going on to teach?
The other thing that i was thinking is that there is not much of a demand for geography teachers is there? Or maybe i am wrong?
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take a risk! live life on the edge! YEAH!
That really isn't me.
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I can't be the only person to see this thread and think - :awesome:

But I guess I'm alone.
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:awesome:
In relation to what?


OP if you don't like geography how do you expect to get onto a geography pgce?- you have to show enthusiasm and interest in your subject at interviews.
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True, but i mean i absolutely love human geograhy but am not tooo keen on physical, don't know if this would be a major problem when teaching but yeah it's the case of going for what i enjoy or what is like the better/more sensible option really, but i guess you are right.

Yes, thanks

I see you are doing BA Geography, how is it?
And how you feeling about going on to teach?
The other thing that i was thinking is that there is not much of a demand for geography teachers is there? Or maybe i am wrong?
Love the course, although looking forward to finishing it so i can get into teaching, its something ive wanted to do before i even did my GCSE's!. but i dont particularly enjoy physical geography... (only did it in my first year because i had to!)

im excited about going into teaching, cant wait to start and feel a lot better with all the experience i have got- im going a morning a week at the moment until i finish uni in the summer just to get that extra experience since the more you have the better.

the only issue is that you would have to teach physical geography up the GCSE (KS4) however a levels can be a bit different- during my a levels i had two teachers one who liked physical so did that bit and the other more human based- i hope that happens with me since i can stand physical up to GCSE but a level i didnt really like it- esp weather so hope i wont teach it then.

the women im currently with in the school says there isnt a great need for geography teachers, however as said above, and also how i feel--> with the new english baclarete i think schools will believe geography is more important and fingers crossed a need for geography teachers might come.

i think teahing is hard enough as it is when you love your subject. if you are unsure about it i dont think you would be able to cope. Saying that i found geography completly different at uni- my whole idea of what human geography was completly changed, most of the things i have studied i hardly touched upon at school. maybe have a look at course breakdowns for geography to see what they are like?

one point to make though is that you might find it harder to get onto a geography teaching course if you have only studied human geogaphy and done no physical at degree level- in my pgce interview they stressed several times how it was important to have an understanding of both sides and wanted to make sure potential canidates to have a good understanding of everything.

hope i havent written too much or been too confusing
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I can't be the only person to see this thread and think - :awesome:

But I guess I'm alone.
What's the problem!?
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In relation to what?


OP if you don't like geography how do you expect to get onto a geography pgce?- you have to show enthusiasm and interest in your subject at interviews.
I do like geography, just not physical as much.
I don't know, i don't know, i probably sound so silly to everyone but i just don't know what to do, i have always messed up in every step of my education, GCSE's, A levels and i don't want it to be the most important part too!
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Love the course, although looking forward to finishing it so i can get into teaching, its something ive wanted to do before i even did my GCSE's!. but i dont particularly enjoy physical geography... (only did it in my first year because i had to!)

im excited about going into teaching, cant wait to start and feel a lot better with all the experience i have got- im going a morning a week at the moment until i finish uni in the summer just to get that extra experience since the more you have the better.

the only issue is that you would have to teach physical geography up the GCSE (KS4) however a levels can be a bit different- during my a levels i had two teachers one who liked physical so did that bit and the other more human based- i hope that happens with me since i can stand physical up to GCSE but a level i didnt really like it- esp weather so hope i wont teach it then.

the women im currently with in the school says there isnt a great need for geography teachers, however as said above, and also how i feel--> with the new english baclarete i think schools will believe geography is more important and fingers crossed a need for geography teachers might come.

i think teahing is hard enough as it is when you love your subject. if you are unsure about it i dont think you would be able to cope. Saying that i found geography completly different at uni- my whole idea of what human geography was completly changed, most of the things i have studied i hardly touched upon at school. maybe have a look at course breakdowns for geography to see what they are like?

one point to make though is that you might find it harder to get onto a geography teaching course if you have only studied human geogaphy and done no physical at degree level- in my pgce interview they stressed several times how it was important to have an understanding of both sides and wanted to make sure potential canidates to have a good understanding of everything.

hope i havent written too much or been too confusing
Oh wow, that would be good if that happend for a level, i only have one, and yes i am not a big fan of physical either, and oh yes hopefully.

Yes i have been doing that, but a lot of them don't actually give a detailed background, i shall have to look around more, oh wow i never knew that so it would not be so good to do just a human geography degree on it's own then, so do most unis do physical in the first year? Would this stilll be called human geography or would it be BA Geography?

No it's great!
Thanks!
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Oh wow, that would be good if that happend for a level, i only have one, and yes i am not a big fan of physical either, and oh yes hopefully.

Yes i have been doing that, but a lot of them don't actually give a detailed background, i shall have to look around more, oh wow i never knew that so it would not be so good to do just a human geography degree on it's own then, so do most unis do physical in the first year? Would this stilll be called human geography or would it be BA Geography?

No it's great!
Thanks!
A friend of mine studied International Development at university, took a secondary PGCE in geography, taught geography for one year, decided he didn't like it and got a different job teaching ICT.

I think you are worrying too much about your choices. Pick a degree you know you will enjoy and that you will be successful at. It is going to cost you an awful lot after all.
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