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Reply 40
Dickie
he does give back a lot.

when he dies his kids are gonna have very little (relatively speaking - theyre gonna get a million or so dollars), and the rest goes to charity.


Also did you know Microsoft was the best firm to work for in the UK? Richersounds is second. Microsoft do have some moral policies.
Reply 41
amazingtrade
...Microsoft do have some moral policies.

they can afford them...
Reply 42
amazingtrade
Also did you know Microsoft was the best firm to work for in the UK? Richersounds is second. Microsoft do have some moral policies.


Richersounds are great! they give free lollipops :biggrin: and umbrellas if it's raining!
Reply 43
J.S.
Some of this is overlooked as he's wealthy and people look for reasons to hate him. However, he has actually contributed a hell of a lot to charity, welfare and the like. Also, education, including a very generous scholarship program at Cambridge.

Hmmm well quite, my computer lab is called the 'William Gates Building', the foundation donated less than half the money and get it called after him. Think they got a good deal :tongue:

On a more serious note I am impressed by his commitment to philanthropy even if I don't agree entirely with his business practice, or indeed some of the directions he seems intent on taking the computer industry down. He is planning on giving his entire fortune away before he dies is he not?

The NT5.1 kernel is a considerable improvement on the 9x kernels and as such should be welcomed since so many computers run windows. However, I would also like to comment that OS X is a very capable and stable consumer OS too - given the choice I'd choose OS X. There is still some odd aspects about the way they've designed the NT5.1 kernel and it lacks the level of access control by default that I'd really like them emplying. Perhaps this will change with NT6, but somehow I think most people will still run with administrative privileges.

Alaric.
Reply 44
me!
Fair enough :biggrin: Hahaha speaking of building PC's we have PC's at school and the head of IT wants me to help him redo all his network and stuff, even though I'm not doing IT at GCSE...

That seems to sum up the problems of IT in schools nicely...
Reply 45
Alaric
That seems to sum up the problems of IT in schools nicely...


huh? just because I don't do IT doesn't mean I'm not good with computers... :frown:
Reply 46
me!
Richersounds are great! they give free lollipops :biggrin: and umbrellas if it's raining!


Well I admit I would never have my HIFI system without Richer Sounds but recently I found a lot stuff I have wanted are not in stock. I think they are more suited for lowest end of the market. They are 1 million times better than Dixons though. The main thing I hate about Richers is the sales advice is naff. They just try and sell their own brands, Dixons is even worse for this though.

At least RS are great when taking stuff back unlike Dixons who's policy seems to be you broke it.
Reply 47
amazingtrade
Well I admit I would never have my HIFI system without Richer Sounds but recently I found a lot stuff I have wanted are not in stock. I think they are more suited for lowest end of the market. They are 1 million times better than Dixons though. The main thing I hate about Richers is the sales advice is naff. They just try and sell their own brands, Dixons is even worse for this though.

At least RS are great when taking stuff back unlike Dixons who's policy seems to be you broke it.


I never buy stuff from Dixons I just usually disappear up to London with my dad then appear back home a couple of hours later with some speakers or something :biggrin:
Reply 48
When I was 16 me and my mate used to go into dixons and go and ask the sales man "what chipset does the motherboard have on this pc" they will go "err its packard bell, it has a err pentium thingy, its a very good machine though it can do everything you want on it, if you buy it today we will give you a 3 year warranty package for just £399" at this point we were almost in tears of laughter.

I never buy anything from Dixons either unless I really really have to.
Reply 49
amazingtrade
When I was 16 me and my mate used to go into dixons and go and ask the sales man "what chipset does the motherboard have on this pc" they will go "err its packard bell, it has a err pentium thingy, its a very good machine though it can do everything you want on it, if you buy it today we will give you a 3 year warranty package for just £399" at this point we were almost in tears of laughter.

I never buy anything from Dixons either unless I really really have to.


hehehe lmao and still laughing
Reply 50
me!
huh? just because I don't do IT doesn't mean I'm not good with computers... :frown:


There's a large difference between 'being good with computers' and having the necessary skills to be a competent systems administrator, even just for a school. I might add thought that IT GCSEs have nothing to with that level of competence. IT GCSEs along with IT/Computing A-levels are nothing much more than exercises in textbook reading and memory retention (as are most GCSEs and quite a few A-levels).
Reply 51
rahaydenuk
There's a large difference between 'being good with computers' and having the necessary skills to be a competent systems administrator, even just for a school. I might add thought that IT GCSEs have nothing to with that level of competence. IT GCSEs along with IT/Computing A-levels are nothing much more than exercises in textbook reading and memory retention (as are most GCSEs and quite a few A-levels).


That's why I chose not to do GCSE IT, because I didn't think I'd find it useful. I always like to learn new skills :biggrin: just because I don't have them now doesn't mean I never will :biggrin:
Reply 52
me!
huh? just because I don't do IT doesn't mean I'm not good with computers... :frown:

I was refering to the problems of the teaching, with regard to the fact the teacher requires your help to set up a good system. In my experience IT teachers are largely poor at teaching and have a weak skillset.
That's a sweeping generalisation, but I don't hear any of my compsci comrades wanting to become teachers...

Alaric.
Reply 53
llama boy
If he'd given back as much as he's raped from this world, he wouldn't be wealthy at all....


hehe, its almost amusing now. let it go you bitter socialist...
amazingtrade
He is american so can't be knighthed. He started out by developing BASIC for Commodore and Apple amongst other companies. He then bought DOS from another company (somthhing research) which he renamed MS-DOS. He supplied this to IBM for their Personal Computer and the rest was history.

U sure he worked for apple?
Far as i remember him and steve jobs started microsoft, and steve jobs then quit to make apple
J


The rugby players deserve every accolade they get apart from J.Wilkinson, he is vastly overrated but still good. Few on this forum understand how tough a sport it is or even understand it therefore cannot pass judgement the same way I can.
Reply 56
Joey_Johns
Few on this forum understand how tough a sport it is or even understand it therefore cannot pass judgement the same way I can.


right, er, why not?
Reply 57
Alaric
I was refering to the problems of the teaching, with regard to the fact the teacher requires your help to set up a good system. In my experience IT teachers are largely poor at teaching and have a weak skillset.
That's a sweeping generalisation, but I don't hear any of my compsci comrades wanting to become teachers...

Alaric.


You're right. I was forced to do GCSE Foundation IT because my teacher was crap and couldn't teach higher tear. I kept telling them I would bloody get an A if I could do higher tear but they wouldn't let me. Bastards!

Anyway at college for the hardware and software unit we had to show that we would install RAM, hard drives, processors etc. The stupid tutor started teaching it and nearly broke the motherboard by trying to insert the processer without the ZIF socket arm being lifted up! I stepped in and showed her the correct way, I ended up delivering the entire lecture.

At university thank god most the lecturers seem better though some of the doctor's seem more bothered about their research.

In my experience I.T teachers seem to study Business Information Systems at some crap university such as TVU or Paisley. Ask them to write a simple VB program and they would get stuck.

The reason why many colleges/schools do not have A level computing as an option is because they cannot get teachers to teach the programming and more technical side of things. It is a shame really.
vienna95
right, er, why not?


Er, your a girl. You wouldnt understand these things.
Reply 59
foolfarian
U sure he worked for apple?
Far as i remember him and steve jobs started microsoft, and steve jobs then quit to make apple
J


That was Steve Woznak, (who is still a partner in Microsoft today) Steve Jobs was a mate of Bill Gates, I think he may have founded in Commodre with Paddy Chuckle (of 6502 fame).

This would make sence as the Apple computers were based around the 6502. (I'm sure it wasn't the Z80). Microsoft then ripped of BASIC from the who ever invented in the 1960's and wrote versions for Apple and Commodore. The BASIC on the C64 was actually written by Microsoft, the C64 is the biggest selling computer in the world so even in the early 80;s Microsoft was one of the worlds richest companies.

IBM in 1981 approached Microsoft to supply an operating system for their new IBM PC. Gates realised he did not have any X86 based operating systems so he bought one of Digital Research called Disk Operating System. Gates tweeked it a little and called it MS-DOS.

Later in 1985 Microsoft realised windows in an attempt to compete with the Apple Mac. It was until 1991 with Windows 3.1 that Windows took off though.

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