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Hi,

I am going to re-apply to Cambridge for English. But I am also going to make sure I have a better contingency plan this time!

Basically I was wondering which universities are considered to be the BEST for English. I don't mean the obvious choices like Duhram, York etc. For example, at Sheffield history is very good under Ian Kershaw but it is not considered one of the "top" unis otherwise.

Perhaps this is an artificial distinction I am drawing...?

I want to go into teaching English, either as a lecturer or getting a professorship etc. So even if I don't study at Cambridge as an undergrad I will probably apply for an MPhil or PhD there later. This is why I want to focus on a good department rather than just a good "all round" university.

Any info from people who know about this kind of thing would be great.

Thanks,

Adam
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Hi,

I am going to re-apply to Cambridge for English. But I am also going to make sure I have a better contingency plan this time!

Basically I was wondering which universities are considered to be the BEST for English. I don't mean the obvious choices like Duhram, York etc. For example, at Sheffield history is very good under Ian Kershaw but it is not considered one of the "top" unis otherwise.

Perhaps this is an artificial distinction I am drawing...?

I want to go into teaching English, either as a lecturer or getting a professorship etc. So even if I don't study at Cambridge as an undergrad I will probably apply for an MPhil or PhD there later. This is why I want to focus on a good department rather than just a good "all round" university.

Any info from people who know about this kind of thing would be great.

Thanks,

Adam
In all honesty, the good departments are at the so called 'all round' universities. I know from a friend who studied Eng. at Oxford that UCL is very highly regarded. A first from UCL in Eng. and you're certain to get into the MPhil. Also, the other 'obvious' candidates, some of which you've named, the rest of which you know.

Do not go for a Eng. department that has only good RAE/QAA scores however is based at a univ. that's not too well known. It sounds good in theory, i.e. trying to go for quality and being broadminded in doing so, however, it doesn't work. See, the thing is, these 'quality' but less famous places typically have a low A level a/v points scores. When a university has a low A level a/v points score, there's always the feeling that the work there has to be made easier to accommodate those who couldn't even 'hack it' A level.
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http://education.guardian.co.uk/high...420992,00.html
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Wouldn't bother with these subjective ratings, just look at the average A level score at the dept. You can get this from the Times. After all, surely there must be a good reason for straight A students to be concentrated at a particular department.
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I've always considered The Guardian's ratings to be crap anyway. :P
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Wouldn't bother with these subjective ratings, just look at the average A level score at the dept. You can get this from the Times. After all, surely there must be a good reason for straight A students to be concentrated at a particular department.
I disagree it depends what you want from your course. If you are headed for a career in acadaemia then by all means check the A Level stats if not you need to look for other factors. I linked to that table cos it allows you to find your own top choices by clicking on whatever factor is most important to you. I agree Sunday Times League table is better than Guardian but it isnt as flexible.
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I disagree it depends what you want from your course. If you are headed for a career in acadaemia then by all means check the A Level stats if not you need to look for other factors. I linked to that table cos it allows you to find your own top choices by clicking on whatever factor is most important to you. I agree Sunday Times League table is better than Guardian but it isnt as flexible.

Yeah, I see what you're saying, but I had the post addressed specifically to the person aspiring to get onto the Oxbridge MPhil/Doctorate.
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Thanks for all the help! I will choose more carefully on my section 3 for my re-application

Adam
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