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    It came up in another thread. So if people really want to debate the holocaust jump right in. History suggests that Hitler tried to exterminate the Jewish people*, he rounded them up and gassed 6 million Jews.

    Does anyone have a massive dispute with this?

    *and disabled people and homosexuals...
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    Dispute that what he did was wrong, or dispute that he actually did it?
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    I dont deny the event.

    I'd like to see a breakdown of the alleged 6 million though. And if you include disabled ppl (t4 program right?) and homosexuals...then the number of JEWS killed would be less the 6m.

    Just a neutral source (ie not Haaratez or some other Israeli chip paper) displaying the figures would do me.
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    You forgot gypsies...
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    Aye, sorry. Those brothers got a raw deal. No one remembers there plight for survival in those hard times. I believe the polite term is Roma, Gypsies is an ethnic slur.
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    holocaust denial makes me SO angry! all sources show that the number of Jews killed is c. 6 million. this seems like a very high number but encompassed Jews living in eastern europe and countries surrounding Germany, as well as jewish people within Germany itself.
    challenging this is rarely a case of revisionism or based in historical approaches but merely an avenue to promote anti-semitic ideas and fascist ideals.
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    (Original post by legbreakgoogly)
    I believe the polite term is Roma, Gypsies is an ethnic slur.
    Since when?
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    Well as a brown man I am the last guy who'd want to "premote fascist ideals". I am just curious as to the true death toll. If I am shown evidence I deem good enough to show a figure of 20 million I would accept it. It all depends on the strength of supporting evidence.

    Freedom of opinion is very dear to us in our democracy. Surely you agree.

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    (Original post by Douglas)
    Since when?
    Since forever. :rolleyes:
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    stalin killed more but this is rarely mentioned around here. might this be because what seems like a significant number of the "students" on this forum are leftist bordering onto lunatic socialism/communism? thats an interesting one
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    (Original post by legbreakgoogly)
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    Since forever. :rolleyes:
    Oh, how old are you?

    I assume your coming from the lower left quadrant, in which case, I understand.
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    (Original post by legbreakgoogly)
    Well as a brown man I am the last guy who'd want to "premote fascist ideals".
    colour linked to political ideals?

    interesting stuff.
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    (Original post by technik)
    stalin killed more but this is rarely mentioned around here. might this be because what seems like a significant number of the "students" on this forum are leftist bordering onto lunatic socialism/communism? thats an interesting one
    Any deaths caused by Soviet actions need to be looked at thru the prism of total war. Stalin did what any committed leader would do.

    I am in my 20's Doug (I can call you that cant I)...I just find Gypsies to be impolite, or maybe I'm just lounging.
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    (Original post by legbreakgoogly)
    Any deaths caused by Soviet actions need to be looked at thru the prism of total war. Stalin did what any committed leader would do.

    I am in my 20's Doug (I can call you that cant I)...I just find Gypsies to be impolite, or maybe I'm just lounging.
    you what? annihilating tens of millions of your own people and millions more in war is what any committed leader does? care to explain and justify?
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    (Original post by technik)
    colour linked to political ideals?

    interesting stuff.
    She meant Nazi ideals in her post. Its obvious given the context. Cant see too many brown folk supporting a European Far Right movement, can you?

    I have vocally attacked the fascist right here, I am a committed Liberal.
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    (Original post by Douglas)

    I assume your coming from the lower left quadrant, in which case, I understand.
    haha. Engineers. :rolleyes:
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    (Original post by legbreakgoogly)
    She meant Nazi ideals in her post. Its obvious given the context. Cant see too many brown folk supporting a European Far Right movement, can you?

    I have vocally attacked the fascist right here, I am a committed Liberal.
    many of my views and ideals resemble fascist or right wing ones yet i have no interest in your colour whatsoever. care to substantiate?
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    (Original post by technik)
    you what? annihilating tens of millions of your own people and millions more in war is what any committed leader does? care to explain and justify?
    Stalin did some wrong, but he broke the back of the fascism menace, 28 million Soviet lives. Those brave souls, sacrificed so we can live free. That alone gives this man Stalin a pass on much of his terror.

    If I was in power, and someone tried to cross me, surely they'd pay with there lives. It is tradition.
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    (Original post by legbreakgoogly)
    Stalin did some wrong, but he broke the back of the fascism menace, 28 million Soviet lives. Those brave souls, sacrificed so we can live free. That alone gives this man Stalin a pass on much of his terror.

    If I was in power, and someone tried to cross me, surely they'd pay with there lives. It is tradition.
    ok then... :rolleyes:
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    (Original post by technik)
    many of my views and ideals resemble fascist or right wing ones yet i have no interest in your colour whatsoever. care to substantiate?
    I can only assume that your ideas on race and ethnicity are not grounded in Fascist ideas, in which case that's cool. I dont care what someone's economic views are.

    In this discussion, a WW2 topic, the fascist right represents race theory, one which quite obviously I cannot suppprt.

    Talking all that jazz!
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    (Original post by legbreakgoogly)
    I can only assume that your ideas on race and ethnicity are not grounded in Fascist ideas, in which case that's cool. I dont care what someone's economic views are.

    In this discussion, a WW2 topic, the fascist right represents race theory, one which quite obviously I cannot suppprt.

    Talking all that jazz!
    which fascist idea has anything to do with your skin?

    ideas in nazism are often concerned with race but not in fascism.
 
 
 
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