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    (Original post by 10inchpianist)
    a sheridan hotel, a nearby petrol station, a high-way video that all captured it. but they were all confiscated and never gave back or released.

    if i was american i would be pretty ****ing pissed!!!
    I'm not pissed. Why should I be? I could care less about seeing the tapes because I already know what happened.
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    Nor am I. 0/2
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    well what do the americans in here think happened to the pentagon and its lack of evidence ? i.e. only 5 frames of video?
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    I believe that popular conspiracy theories are a joke. And, the reason I believe it is because there are no credible sources that say otherwise. Yeah, there is the ever popular BYU Physicist, who never visited the site mind you, who proclaims the WTC falling is impossible, but I have my own list of more highly educated individuals, from all corners of the earth, who specialize in such disasters and realms, and who have actually been to the site who argue quite the contrary. No one who knows anything has come out against it. The only people who have anything to say about it thus far are amateur movie makers and people who like to hear themselves talk in the net. Give me a retired Naval pilot who actually DELT with missiles at one point that says it looks like a missile. There are so many people who proclaim that it is actually a missile that hit the building, including yourself. How many other missiles have you seen in real life that weren't Hollywood produced? You would be hard pressed to find a handful. And, I will also assume that you have no either.

    You want to know where the doubt lies? In the credibility of the naysayer’s. I'll take the word of the ENTIRE government, not just Bush, over the word of college age bloggers and mid-life crisis computer gurus who have nothing better to do than try to extrapolate physical data from a QT security camera.
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    im not talking about a conspiracy theory. im just trying to find out why one of the most protected buildings in the world only has 5 frames of ****ty pictures to proof something hit it ?
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    (Original post by 10inchpianist)
    well what do the americans in here think happened to the pentagon and its lack of evidence ? i.e. only 5 frames of video?
    I'm fine with it. This is really only a popular conspiracy in Europe. Only Americans with very low IQs like the flakes in Hollywood buy into 9/11 conspiracies. It's obvious to me a plane hit the pentagon and I don't need any video footage to prove anything. Do you need video footage to prove that 2+2=4? Of course not, because anyone with 1/2 a brain knows the answer already.
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    well thats just randy but why are there only 5 frames of video to 'proove' it ?
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    If someone flew a plane into Scottland Yard, are you trying to tell me the procedures that have been carried out would have been that different? The Pentagon is the most secretive building in the WORLD. I'm sure there is a reason they haven't released it. And, "OMGZ BECUZ Iz A MIZZILE!!!" is not an option.
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    (Original post by Rusty33)
    If someone flew a plane into Scottland Yard, are you trying to tell me the procedures that have been carried out would have been that different? The Pentagon is the most secretive building in the WORLD. I'm sure there is a reason they haven't released it. And, "OMGZ BECUZ Iz A MIZZILE!!!" is not an option.
    Is it possible that the location of the most secretive building in the WORLD is unknown to you, Rusty??
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    Obviously. But, it is to you, and probably everyone else, too. There also could be aliens behind 9/11. Let's not work to speculate on that sort of thing when we can't come up with better material. For now, the Pentagon releases the most important information in the world, all things considered. Try a different approach.
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    (Original post by Rusty33)
    Obviously. But, it is to you, and probably everyone else, too. There also could be aliens behind 9/11. Let's not work to speculate on that sort of thing when we can't come up with better material. For now, the Pentagon releases the most important information in the world, all things considered. Try a different approach.
    A helpful, if not realistic, view might be for you & I to not believe anything the spokesperson for 'the other side' says. We know it isn't true and is designed to appeal to our 'enemies'

    Equally it might be helpful, if not realistic, to not believe anything our spokesperson says. We know it isn't true and is designed to appeal to us.

    If you & I and Mohammed and Ali disregarded what our 'leaders', or media (same thing) told us and refused to fight one another, things might change for the better.

    Dream on!! eh??
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    Yeah, and Socialism is the solution to all of our problems, too.
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    (Original post by Rusty33)
    Yeah, and Socialism is the solution to all of our problems, too.
    I didn't know you're a socialist!! OK
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    Sarcasm.
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    (Original post by Rusty33)
    Sarcasm.
    By you?
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    Yes. Socialism is a joke.
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    (Original post by Rusty33)
    Yes. Socialism is a joke.
    Well as you know I'm pretty thick but I really don't understand what you mean.
    You said Yeah, and Socialism is the solution to all of our problems, too.

    I replied I didn't know you're a socialist!! OK

    You said Sarcasm. I replied By you?

    And now you say Yes. Socialism is a joke.

    To me that says you're a socialist, maybe a sarcastic one, and socialism, which to you is a joke, solves all our problems.!!
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    Just put a ":rolleyes:" at the end of my first comment. That should clear it up for you.
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    (Original post by deedee8)
    Well as you know I'm pretty thick but I really don't understand what you mean.
    You said Yeah, and Socialism is the solution to all of our problems, too.

    I replied I didn't know you're a socialist!! OK

    You said Sarcasm. I replied By you?

    And now you say Yes. Socialism is a joke.

    To me that says you're a socialist, maybe a sarcastic one, and socialism, which to you is a joke, solves all our problems.!!
    He's not a socialist. Socialism is a dirty word.

    In this country, the politicians insult one another by calling each other socialists. The USA has defined itself over many decades of being Communism's enemy. In everyday discussions, you sometimes hear people accusing others of being communists if they support nationalizing things such as healthcare and raising taxes. I call liberals "communists" all the time when I debate with them. There really isn't any kind of defense to this kind of accusation, so it's pretty effective.
    Criticizing capitalism is socialism, and the term "socialism" is used synonymously with communism and Marxism.
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    (Original post by Made in the USA)
    He's not a socialist. Socialism is a dirty word.

    In this country, the politicians insult one another by calling each other socialists. The USA has defined itself over many decades of being Communism's enemy. In everyday discussions, you sometimes hear people accusing others of being communists if they support nationalizing things such as healthcare and raising taxes. I call liberals "communists" all the time when I debate with them. There really isn't any kind of defense to this kind of accusation, so it's pretty effective.
    Criticizing capitalism is socialism, and the term "socialism" is used synonymously with communism and Marxism.
    Although, I can't disagree with the negative connotation associated with the word "socialism" in American society, I want to clarify that my sarcastic use of the word in this context is derived from my own drawn conclusion from studies in economics, sociology, history, and philosophy. Contrary to popular belief, some Americans are educated and don’t base their views around the hysteria of the media. Although, it is right in that sense.
 
 
 
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