The Student Room Group
Reply 1
I just joined year 2,

everyone is depressed


physics sucks, the time table is horrible- and theres no sense of achievement (you cant finish work and say "right, im done for now, time to relax")

unless your only goal is to get a degree and not do anything else, then physics is for you



im hanging on by a thread


gonna switch to physics with business studies i think


oh, warwick is a GREAT uni though... u'll love it on campus, better than any other of your choices, i assure you
Reply 2
carltona
... and theres no sense of achievement (you cant finish work and say "right, im done for now, time to relax") ...

It would be quite bad if you could say that. For any subject. In any university.

That's the whole point of uni, and what essentially makes it different from school: there's no ceiling.
Reply 3
I'm most of the way through my first term doign Physics and enjoying Warwick loads. Its a great place and I dont regret my choice of subject or university at all. If you want to do Physics the issues Carltona brought up will happen at any good university. I had offers from Durham, York, Edinburgh and turned them down for Warwick, I think you should seriously consider it,
Good luck with the rest of your offers.
Mars
Reply 4
just wait


we are going to have a 9am - 7pm day next term, apparently

what clown puts a lecture after lab?
Reply 5
physics apparently has loads of contact hours, and u need to be pretty up to scratch with ur maths. this is wot ive heard from my 3 physicians in my kitchen. theres not many girls doing the course, which is prob a bad thing whichever way u look at it. ive heard theres quite a few nerdy types but i know quite a few who are safe as, so yea, its all good.
Reply 6
i think there are 9 girls doing straight physicson my course

2 are in my tutor


i guess you have to be good at maths... but they teach what you need to know (not that i retain any of the knowledge)

to be honest i haven't seen many nerdy types
Reply 7
Warwick campus is nice and you will like it (everyone does) but physics just sucks. it's so mind-numbingly boring and useless. It's probably fairly useful if you want to be a professional physicist or physics teacher when you get your degree but other than that I still haven't worked out what it can be used for. I have in fact just visited this site for the first time in over a month just to try and not do my maths homework for tomorrow.

Sadly physics will be boring and difficult no matter which university you choose so you might as well choose the nicest place, which out of your choices is probably Durham (don't go to Cambridge unless you are a complete nerd and know you can take it-my girlfriend got 4 As and went to Oxford and gets badly depressed most nights about her work). Durham is a really nice city and all the lecturers I have met there are really good. I only didn't go there because it is where I used to live anyway and I was bored of the place (same goes for Mars so don't believe him when he tells you he chose Warwick over Durham, he says he would have gone to Durham if he had lived anywhere else). Durham has also just been voted the best university in the country. The only problem with it is all the chavs that seem to be there now, which is also one of the best things about being on campus here, chavs don't go near universities because they are scared they might learn something. So at least you can feel fairly safe that you won't get mugged, until you go to Coventry, which is a hole, and where you will almost certainly get mugged at some point.

Enough of my ranting-just go to all the uni websites and check out how pretty the pictures are and how funky your course modules sound and make your decision based on that.
physics just sucks. it's so mind-numbingly boring and useless. It's probably fairly useful if you want to be a professional physicist or physics teacher when you get your degree but other than that I still haven't worked out what it can be used for.

You really are stupid if you think that the only thing you can do with a physics degree is become a physicist or a physics teacher, I can't remember the number of times I've been told that a physics degree can lead to a huge array of careers, entirely unrelated to physics! People will want to employ you because you have a good degree from a good university. I know many people who have got their degree in maths or physics or whatever and gone off and worked in the city and get paid a good amount.

Personally I haven't found the physics course very boring so far, ok so it's far from exciting, but it is interesting enough and occasionally challenging but not too difficult...yet. If you opt for doing the minimal amount of work, then you can get by, have a lots of free time and generally keep up, but really you should expect to do more than the minimum if you want to do well.

As for the amount of maths, I did further maths A-level and I've found the maths course pretty easy so far, but I think most people are bright enough to pick up everything quickly - I could hardly remember a lot of my further maths anyway.

As for the girls, yes there are very few, though I have made friends with two very nice female physicists, and anyway, who said you have to hook up with someone from your own course?! Just go out a few times a week and there are all the girls you need, no doubt most of them do sociology or something in humanities, but I did date an attractive girl who did maths (no really, they exist) earlier in the term.

Oh yeah and
don't go to Cambridge unless you are a complete nerd
- I have to disagree with that statement, as I know far too many people at Cam who aren't 'nerds'. Yes if you go and do Nat. Sciences at Downing expect to work very, very hard, but that doesn't mean you can't enjoy yourself too!

Anyway, that's my contribution (...for now), hope it helps and gives you something to think about.
Reply 9
lol, I seem to have struck a nerve there, sorry. Yes, employers like physics degrees, i'll agree with that, but they also like many other degrees which in all honesty are probably more interesting in hindsight. My point was more that they aren't very applicable to the modern job market, my examples were merely an exaggeration.

And you really do have to be pretty geeky to do physics at Oxbridge, physics is a geeky subject and at Oxbridge they will do more of it than anywhere else. Maybe its just my opinion but I've certainly never met any "cool" physicists (myself included). I have never thought of the terms nerd or geek as insults as I just consider them as descriptions of that certain kind of personality but I'm aware that many people do consider it as insulting so I'm sorry if you misinterpreted what I meant.

I also stand by it being a fairly uninteresting kind of degree, but I am sure that is just the nature of degree level physics and nothing to do with the university. Sure some bits of what you learn are nice to know but a lot of it is just maths and tedious derivations of formulae which would only excite the most die-hard of physicists.
Reply 10
i want to do physics and was thinking about jobs after. Like i know research pays nothing unless you discover something outstanding and get a reseach grant or some sort of prize like nobel prize.

But there are a lot of options especially if you can manage to sit through more physics, possibly a PHD. I looked into the finance market and a lot of the analyst type jobs ask for a Msc or PHD in physics or maths cause they want someone who can problem solve. Some asked for just a 1st class degree. The starting pay is decent but i saw a job for the top end and it was like £150 000 - £300 000. So like all hope is not lost.

I think best approach is when you get some free time try and contact people from a company your interested in or like over the summer try and get a job placement. Coz in the job market its getting competitive and its no longer just about where your degree us from, they want to see that you have experience and having contacts are also important.
Reply 11
I'd just like to point out the Bazmerelda gets a little shall we say depressed at work and try not to take him too literally. I've the physics degree interesting so far, ok theres been quite a few times i've been almost falling asleep but thts just lecutres in general in every subject. If you like physics/are good at it. Go for it. Further maths helps but isnt essential, i didnt do it and finding the maths not exactly difficult just having to leanr loats in a shirt space of time but that wont go on for much longer before we are caught up then it no longer matters.
Reply 12
the physics dept gets treated like ****, no priorities with time tabling etc...


they treat us off campus students as if we live on campus

asking us to come in at 4pm (when we finish at 1) for a 20 minutes meeting... which had stuff which could have been sent in an email!

(basically it was a lecturer reading a list of stuff out of stuff he put in our pigeon hole)


ill probably change to physics with business studies, which means ill have only business in 3rd year...
Bazmerelda please don't post such bias, negative comments about a subject some people might actually enjoy. I mean come on 'mind-numbingly boring and useless' is not really very helpful or encouraging to someone that has a different perception of physics and is considering warwick as a genuine choice.
Reply 14
Bazmerelda
lol, I seem to have struck a nerve there, sorry. Yes, employers like physics degrees, i'll agree with that, but they also like many other degrees which in all honesty are probably more interesting in hindsight.


Surely interest is a rather subjective property. After all, its the entire reason I picked a physics degree. How could you possibly considder the most fundamental mechanics of Nature a dull topic? What about quantum mechanics that defy all intuition and has yet proven to be one of the most successful theories of modern science? Not interesting? Tell you what, when you find another dicipline successfully explaining the existance of entities as marvelous as the sun, rainbows or the star filled midnight sky, then we can discuss if physics is interesting or not ( Well, I suppose you could argue that pure maths is more beautiful as it doesn't have to rely on numerical aproximations, but thats a different story ).

As for phycisists beeing cool, well when I was 13 it was very "cool" to smoke, doesn't mean its good path in life... (As a side note, if you don't think Richard Feynman was cool you have no idea what you are talking about ).
Hey Jonatan, have you enjoyed doing physics at warwick? I probably liked it the best out of the universities that I've visited (Warwick, UCL, Imperial, Sussex, Bristol) for the atmosphere, campus, presentation and department. Thanks
Reply 16
Bazmerelda
lol, I seem to have struck a nerve there, sorry. Yes, employers like physics degrees, i'll agree with that, but they also like many other degrees which in all honesty are probably more interesting in hindsight. My point was more that they aren't very applicable to the modern job market, my examples were merely an exaggeration.

And you really do have to be pretty geeky to do physics at Oxbridge, physics is a geeky subject and at Oxbridge they will do more of it than anywhere else. Maybe its just my opinion but I've certainly never met any "cool" physicists (myself included). I have never thought of the terms nerd or geek as insults as I just consider them as descriptions of that certain kind of personality but I'm aware that many people do consider it as insulting so I'm sorry if you misinterpreted what I meant.

I also stand by it being a fairly uninteresting kind of degree, but I am sure that is just the nature of degree level physics and nothing to do with the university. Sure some bits of what you learn are nice to know but a lot of it is just maths and tedious derivations of formulae which would only excite the most die-hard of physicists.

I know at least 2 really cool physicists to there :p:
And like seriously this one guy who does physics he is so cool. Like one of those people that you meet and go 'wow hes so cool'. And my other friend who does it who is pretty hot (female I'm talking here) and then they dated so they were like the hottest cool couple but then they broke up but are still like best friends and they do physics and they're cool. So there!

I know it sounds like I'm being stupid but they really are cool. And hot. I dont know why I'm telling you all this. I'll stop now. It has no relevance to anything on this thread.
I know a girl who's doing first year physics and she's quite nice and cute. She doesn't go to the lectures a lot tho :P

Anw, physics is cool, but you have to know maths(I'm doing maths btw).

Physics and Maths students, first years get the worst timetables. And that's a fact. I hope that changes next year

Nevertheless, I've done two physics modules(relativity and mechanics) and I don't recon doing physics at Warwick is something terrible. Au contrair, if he/she is above average and knows the maths involved in physics then the only ingredient missing is some sort of self motivation and he/she is certainly gonna flurish.