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most of my friends cant cook, i imagine you are wrong, as has already been said why *would* a 17 or 18 year old need to be able to cook any more than beans on toast?

Because some people's parents don't do everything for them ?
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Because some people's parents don't do everything for them ?
...you are living in a house with 1/2/3/4 etc other people, surely it makes sense to eat at least dinner together?

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I think the reason why opinions differ so much is because everyone is at different universities, someone who is trying to decide on self-catered or catered is gooing to get a bit of a headache reading this thread.
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I thought you'd already decided to go with catered? :confused:
Well i've now gone and changed my mind. It's now going to be self-catered, offcampus, ensuite with internet connection. Narrowed it down to 2, so going next saturday to an accommodation day Leeds are doing.

My flat mates are probs going to think im so wierd. They'll be there having beans on toast and ill be making guacamole or having a heart attack because I forgot to buy more balsamic vinegar and olive oil. Though i'm sure i'll also have a fair few meals of beans on toast too...
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I'm probably going to go for catered. Mainly because all the intercollegiate halls in London are catered, and they are nicer than any of the other accomodation at KCL (apart from maybe Great Dover St, but I dont particuarily like the idea of apartments - too anti-social). I'm not hugely bothered whether I'm in catered/self-catered as I am quite a flexible and unfussy person and can see that both have considerable advantages. I am more bothered about living in an area where I will enjoy myself and meeting nice people than whether I have my meal cooked for me.

To all the people criticising those who can't cook very well: Is telling everyone that you cook and criticising those who cant just an attempt to make yourselves look more grown up and mature whilst belittling others? Everyone leads different lifestyles and have different approaches to running their households. Some people never feel the need to cook as they have a parent who does not work or is only part-time so they dont cook. That doesnt mean they sponge off their parents or are lazy - its just a more efficient way of running their household. Personally, I can cook (though not very well). but that is only because a) My parents both work full-time, and b) I get bored, so its something to occupy myself with.
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Just because people don't cook supper for themselves everyday doesn't necessarily make them awful chefs. In general I don't have to cook for myself, however that doesn't mean I can't cook. Everyonce and a while I'll cook something, and also help someone else cooking. And I used to have cooking lessons at school - not that it taught me much.
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(Original post by rah)
...you are living in a house with 1/2/3/4 etc other people, surely it makes sense to eat at least dinner together?

whatever.
Yes, but don't you sometimes cook that dinner ? My parents would never cook for me every night.
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Yes, but don't you sometimes cook that dinner ? My parents would never cook for me every night.
yes, i make a mean spag bol. i still maintain the fact that 70% of my friends cant cook beyond the basics though.

different things for different people i guess *shrug*
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Sorry to use you as an example serendipity, but I've always been quite self sufiicient and have chosen to go self catered purely for the fact that I don't want to live with people who "skip meals if left to my own devices". I don't understand how people who are going to university can't cook, basically I don't suffer fools gladly so thats why I've chosen to go for self catering.
The fact that I couldn't survive on my own cooking doesn't make me a fool :rolleyes:
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Hi! I'm coming to Leeds uni Business school this septemer to study for MA in advertising and marketing. So now I am also looking for a good place where to live. I will be very greatful for a good advice.
Sentinel Towers seem to be cool as rooms are en-suite, it has internet and is within walking distance to the Uni. But they say on their web-site that it is especially good for the students who need peaceful environment. Why? Does it mean that there is no social life there and I will be bored and alone all the time?!?!?
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Well i've now gone and changed my mind. It's now going to be self-catered, offcampus, ensuite with internet connection. Narrowed it down to 2, so going next saturday to an accommodation day Leeds are doing.
hehehe okay well i've finally made up my mind. Went to the accommodation day and decided that actually being on campus was a must, so its ending up being on-campus catered (ellersie) hopefully en-suite and a view of the business school so i can get up 3 mins before a lecture!

woohoo, finally decided!

Kisel1, PM 'ditzy blonde' because she's at Leeds at the min and can tell you!
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hehehe okay well i've finally made up my mind. Went to the accommodation day and decided that actually being on campus was a must, so its ending up being on-campus catered (ellersie) hopefully en-suite and a view of the business school so i can get up 3 mins before a lecture!

woohoo, finally decided!

Kisel1, PM 'ditzy blonde' because she's at Leeds at the min and can tell you!
Can you please tell why after visiting Leeds you decided to live on campus? I couldn't come 'cause I live outside the UK. You say it is a must but I really want to have internet connection in my room which is a problem on campus... And where on campus can i find en-suite rooms? It is too confusing 'cause you really cannot get a room with all the facilities you want!!!
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Kisel1, I was thinking of Leeds before decided on Birmingham, and I also thought about staying at Sentinel Towers, but the peace and quiet you mention is because there are more rules in place to keep people quiet there. So I decided against it. There are more postgraduates and international students there too.

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just to contribute to the debate, I'd always go for self-catered because:
1. I'm picky about my food
2. I'm picky about the quality of my food
3. More independence
4. I'd never get up for breakfast, and I don't eat breakfast anyway!
5. I'd rather live with people who can fend for themselves
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(Original post by Pencil Queen)
It depends on the University - this was the case at Royal Holloway (cheap meals not free ones, and no real kitchen just a fridge and a microwave between 20+ people)


1) nothing is more social than sharing a living area like a kitchen with other people, cooking, shopping and eating together as well as just generally hanging around in the kitchen is far nicer than having to use peoples rooms or a great big hall to socialise in. I found catered halls to be much more anti-social than self catered. There were a substantial number of people who would refuse to go down for meals if they had noone to sit with, and there's also a very funny set of social rules regarding who you sit with depending on the size of a hall - in a big hall it's likely that you wont know 70%+ of the people you eat with and the chances of having to eat alone are fairly high. Most don't provide a take-away service if you're working and want to eat and work at the same time so you'r forced to take time out to sit down for a proper meal etc et

3) it's only cheaper if you use it and enjoy the food. At RH I spent most of my money on chicken burgers and cherry cheesecake as almost all of the rest of the food wasn't to my taste. I also spent a lot of money in the non-subsidised cafe's. Also if you don't have even slightly half decen kitchen facilities you can't make yourself sandwiches for lunch and so end up buying food/drinks while you're out which is *very* expensive.

Choose catered because you don't want to bother cooking by all means but your other two reasons are based on rumour not fact.
I am in catered halls so for me those are facts.

It works out cheaper for me because there is no way you could cook on the difference in rent between catered and self catered at my uni. I've got kitchen facilites so I can cook lunches. Also we don't get dinner on saturdays but instead a huge bruch with stuff to take away. So if you're going out for a meal you don't feel guily about missing meals. Also my food is generally really good.

In my experience it is more social because we havelong (harry potter syle) tables so there is amways a big mix of people to talk to, unlike halls with say table for 6 or 7 people. Also unlike little falts of 6 or 7 there aree no cliques and it is easy to meet other people in hall. Also we get a three course formal meal every friday complete with booze and it is really social because everyone is pissed and friendly. MOst of my friends are poeple that u ahve met over meals.

Maybe I'm just luckey that i live in a really nice hall with lovely people.
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Can you please tell why after visiting Leeds you decided to live on campus? I couldn't come 'cause I live outside the UK. You say it is a must but I really want to have internet connection in my room which is a problem on campus... And where on campus can i find en-suite rooms? It is too confusing 'cause you really cannot get a room with all the facilities you want!!!
I wouldn't say its a must for everyone, but I decided that the advantage of being on campus is huge, and I'm not sure if I could face travelling back and forth all the time etc. I ended up quite liking the catered on campus so decided just to go with it. If you don't live in the UK though, you'd probably want self-catered and i've heard way too many bad things about the only self-catered on campus (henry price). I really want an internet connection too. I read on the website (in the FAQ bit) that you can connect a connection at your own expense if they decide to allow you, so i've just emailed the accommodation people to ask them for more info because if im allowed i'd definitely do it! There are some en-suite in the 2 I want - just not many - so i'll but it down as wanting en-suite but not essential (im sure i can adapt fine to sharing). I really know what you mean about not being able to get a room with all the facilities you want! None of them have it all - it's just a trade off, and its soooo hard trying to decide what you think is more important than another factor!
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(Original post by emma_)
I wouldn't say its a must for everyone, but I decided that the advantage of being on campus is huge, and I'm not sure if I could face travelling back and forth all the time etc. I ended up quite liking the catered on campus so decided just to go with it. If you don't live in the UK though, you'd probably want self-catered and i've heard way too many bad things about the only self-catered on campus (henry price). I really want an internet connection too. I read on the website (in the FAQ bit) that you can connect a connection at your own expense if they decide to allow you, so i've just emailed the accommodation people to ask them for more info because if im allowed i'd definitely do it! There are some en-suite in the 2 I want - just not many - so i'll but it down as wanting en-suite but not essential (im sure i can adapt fine to sharing). I really know what you mean about not being able to get a room with all the facilities you want! None of them have it all - it's just a trade off, and its soooo hard trying to decide what you think is more important than another factor!
Did you get the food there on campus? And why do you think that I would want self-catered - is there something so specific about the food in halls?
Next, what does the shared bathroom looks like? Is it convenient to share it or is it like waiting in a queue to get there in the morning? :cool:
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