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1) Don't reply to posts with personal insults. They will be punished severely.

2) Try to keep personal remarks down to a minimum. Flaming will be punished severely.

3) If you are going to print a news article as the start to your thread please put it in quote boxes and add a bit at the end as to what you feel is debate/discussion worthy. If its a web based article please add the web address too so people can see for themselves.

4) When you respond please do not quote individual lines/short paragraphs at a time - if you do so the context of the original quote may be lost.
[To be clear please keep to a MAXIMUM of 4/5 quote boxes per post.]

5) Contributions to the forum should be in the interest of discussion and debate - do not post if you don't want to discuss or have your views challenged.

6) Thread titles should be accurate and descriptive ie "Should gays be allowed to adopt?" is better than "Gays adopting!".

7) Be prepared that anything you write may be challenged.

8) All other TSR rules on racism, advertising, adult content etc still apply.

9) Make every effort to backup all argument with as much factual and/or source evidence as possible.

10 ) These are guidelines, not strict rules.

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Reply 1
Yesterday I banned someone because they were a troll and quite possibly a dangerous lunatic. The interesting thing is they had posted several hundred posts, many of them grossly offensive to members, without anyone complaining. I've just had a look at another thread where there have been complaints in the thread about religious or racial insults and what are seen as double standards in dealing with them. None of them have been reported as far as I can tell.
It's hard to judge whether something is a joke- and often whether it is taken as a joke- but it is very easy to build up into flame wars. Please don't hurl insults generally. Puting a smiley at the end when you've insulted someone peronally or for other reasons doesn't help.
There is a little red triangle at the top right hand corner of a post so people can report offensive posts. Use it. Use it to report any post you think offensive, not just ones that attack you. People are talking about things they think important so passions run high; nevertheless, a basic courtesy [or hypocrisy- there's not much difference] is necessary for it to be debate and discussion forum rather than a rant rave and froth at the mouth forum.
Who? Legbreakgoogly, PLEASE!
Reply 3
Weejimmie
Yesterday I banned someone because they were a troll and quite possibly a dangerous lunatic. The interesting thing is they had posted several hundred posts, many of them grossly offensive to members, without anyone complaining. I've just had a look at another thread where there have been complaints in the thread about religious or racial insults and what are seen as double standards in dealing with them. None of them have been reported as far as I can tell.
It's hard to judge whether something is a joke- and often whether it is taken as a joke- but it is very easy to build up into flame wars. Please don't hurl insults generally. Puting a smiley at the end when you've insulted someone peronally or for other reasons doesn't help.
There is a little red triangle at the top right hand corner of a post so people can report offensive posts. Use it. Use it to report any post you think offensive, not just ones that attack you. People are talking about things they think important so passions run high; nevertheless, a basic courtesy [or hypocrisy- there's not much difference] is necessary for it to be debate and discussion forum rather than a rant rave and froth at the mouth forum.


Thank you, Weejimmie

A propitious moment indeed, for a reminder to all forum members!
Reply 4
Weejimmie
Yesterday I banned someone because they were a troll and quite possibly a dangerous lunatic. The interesting thing is they had posted several hundred posts, many of them grossly offensive to members, without anyone complaining. I've just had a look at another thread where there have been complaints in the thread about religious or racial insults and what are seen as double standards in dealing with them. None of them have been reported as far as I can tell.
It's hard to judge whether something is a joke- and often whether it is taken as a joke- but it is very easy to build up into flame wars. Please don't hurl insults generally. Puting a smiley at the end when you've insulted someone peronally or for other reasons doesn't help.
There is a little red triangle at the top right hand corner of a post so people can report offensive posts. Use it. Use it to report any post you think offensive, not just ones that attack you. People are talking about things they think important so passions run high; nevertheless, a basic courtesy [or hypocrisy- there's not much difference] is necessary for it to be debate and discussion forum rather than a rant rave and froth at the mouth forum.


I would really like to know what the forum guidlines are with regards to religion, I honestly see nothing wrong with criticising religion.
Reply 5
Nothing wrong with criticising religion: being deliberately offensive to someone about their religion is different. It's hard to tell where the dividing line is, i agree, but there are times when we can be certain people have gone over it.
Good. I'd only add that moderators should name the culprit, quote the naughty post/s, and explain why it warranted warning points or a ban in the relevant thread for all to see.

Would help all and cost little I think...
I agree, maybe people aren't utilising the system because they're not sure what constitutes a post they should report and don't want to piss off the moderators with reporting posts that they aren't sure warrant it. Maybe you should give us an example from this case.
Reply 8
I don't report the vast majority of posts because I'd rather debate points, no matter how unpalatable, than have them deleted. This is a debate forum after all.
cosmik_debris
Who? Legbreakgoogly, PLEASE!


I'm your worst nightmare, homie. :biggrin:

I'm of to Canada within 2 years. Hopefully.
Weej, I said above that I think it's a good idea, in d&d at least, for mods to offer some explanation when people are banned, if only as a reminder to remaining members about what is/isn't acceptable.

The BNP guys who appear to have been banned, almost en masse, weren't even warned first about any transgressions, just banned - at least in some cases.

I think it would help the rest of us, and especially anybody considering joining and posting from a WNist or racialist perspective in future, if mods gave some reasons for the purge.

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?t=251743&page=6
Stop linking to Stormfront, you know I can't help looking!

Have you seen their 'most troublesome ethnics' thread? Every single person who has posted on that for at least the first 3 or 4 pages is a word that I don't want to say, because I've given up swearing.
Reply 12
ArthurOliver
Weej, I said above that I think it's a good idea, in d&d at least, for mods to offer some explanation when people are banned, if only as a reminder to remaining members about what is/isn't acceptable.

The BNP guys who appear to have been banned, almost en masse, weren't even warned first about any transgressions, just banned - at least in some cases.
I understand that the BNP collective consisted of a lot of duplicate identities: they were caught via their IPs and banned for their multiple personalities.
Weejimmie
I understand that the BNP collective consisted of a lot of duplicate identities: they were caught via their IPs and banned for their multiple personalities.
Well, maybe fair enough Weej. Some admitted as much, others say they did nowt wrong. I hope they weren't judged as a collective (?).
Reply 14
ArthurOliver
Well, maybe fair enough Weej. Some admitted as much, others say they did nowt wrong. I hope they weren't judged as a collective (?).
Welcome back.
The problem would be to say who was or wasn't part of it. I wasn't around when it reached a peak, so I don't know, but it looked pretty bad.
Reply 15
beekeeper
I would really like to know what the forum guidlines are with regards to religion, I honestly see nothing wrong with criticising religion.

There's criticising religion, and then there's charging in with a half-baked set of Marx and Nietzsche quotes and declaring all theists irrational or self-deluding.
Reply 16
phawkins1988
There's criticising religion, and then there's charging in with a half-baked set of Marx and Nietzsche quotes and declaring all theists irrational or self-deluding.


But surely if these quotes are half-baked, it would be very easy to refute the claims deduced from them, and hence win the debate?

Surely the line should be drawn at offensive argumentum ad hominem?
Reply 17
free speech has to be carefully weighed up with the rights of the minority. remenber the uproar over the cartoons depicting Muhammad.
Reply 18
Feel free to comment....
Reply 19
Can we also make it obligatory to use quote boxes when quoting another user - recently, some members having taken to just using italics/bold/speech marks, hence making it exceedingly difficult to understand who/what they're quoting?


Also re. point number 4 - I agree with the principle behind it but sometimes if a long post is made containing a number of differing points it's actually clearer to split them up and respond separately.

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