AQA A2 HISTORY: The Triumph of Elizabeth, 1547-1603 Watch

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I didn't mention the Puritans.. why would you? The question was whether the Jesuits were a threat or not. They didn't ask if it was the BIGGEST threat nor did they ask for any comparison between the two. Eurgh, annoying if for some reason we had to mention the Puritans
You could say that if we compare the Catholic threat with other problems that Elizabeth faced such as the Puritan threat (which wasn't much of a threat) then the Catholic threat was dangerous (because they had a leader etc which the puritans didn't).

if that makes sense..
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Least none of you wrote about Parliament for the third question! *hangs oneself*
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Aghhh... i did question 2 + 3.

Question 2 i argued not a threat:
- Effectiveness of authorities [acts + laws etc]
- Divisions within the group
- Other threats more serious [MQS + Spain - also said how these were more organised, unlike missionaries who stuck to pros south]

But then said 'however...' + said how they were well trained + educated at douai, + how they concentrated on gentry, stating how historians do think this was bad, h/e its imporatant for monarch to keep aristocracy on side.

Question 4 didnt go amazingly. I got confused + included parliament as well as P.C [although did mention P.C more, + when i did mention parliament i brought it back e.g men of business] I argued they did serve her:

- use of patronage made them loyal [mentioned parliament by stating new bouroughs whoops]
- kept council small + appointed those who would conflict each other, not her, made an inner circle, queen not present in meetings so duty could be effective

then said however...
-faction bad in end of reign + disobedience
- roy prog infringed [i briefly mentioned cope + wentworth here but then stated how council used parliament to challenge roy prog]

Gah. not what i expected. But considering i was so shocked, i think it went OK for a bad paper.
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Least none of you wrote about Parliament for the third question! *hangs oneself*
The 3rd question alone is a reason to hang yourself.
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(Original post by Averagegirl:))
I didn't mention the Puritans.. why would you? The question was whether the Jesuits were a threat or not. They didn't ask if it was the BIGGEST threat nor did they ask for any comparison between the two. Eurgh, annoying if for some reason we had to mention the Puritans

That's what I thought, but a lot of people went through the catholic threat and te puritan threat...:confused:

Do you remember exactly how they phrased the question :/ I keep trying to remember but can't
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Aghhh... i did question 2 + 3.

Question 2 i argued not a threat:
- Effectiveness of authorities [acts + laws etc]
- Divisions within the group
- Other threats more serious [MQS + Spain - also said how these were more organised, unlike missionaries who stuck to pros south]

But then said 'however...' + said how they were well trained + educated at douai, + how they concentrated on gentry, stating how historians do think this was bad, h/e its imporatant for monarch to keep aristocracy on side.

Question 4 didnt go amazingly. I got confused + included parliament as well as P.C [although did mention P.C more, + when i did mention parliament i brought it back e.g men of business] I argued they did serve her:

- use of patronage made them loyal [mentioned parliament by stating new bouroughs whoops]
- kept council small + appointed those who would conflict each other, not her, made an inner circle, queen not present in meetings so duty could be effective

then said however...
-faction bad in end of reign + disobedience
- roy prog infringed [i briefly mentioned cope + wentworth here but then stated how council used parliament to challenge roy prog]

Gah. not what i expected. But considering i was so shocked, i think it went OK for a bad paper.
I thought that Peter Wentworth and Anthony Cope were members of parliament and not her ministers....?
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That's what I thought, but a lot of people went through the catholic threat and te puritan threat...:confused:

Do you remember exactly how they phrased the question :/ I keep trying to remember but can't
How serious a threat were the Catholic missionary priests and the jesuits to Elizabeth I's position
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That's what I thought, but a lot of people went through the catholic threat and te puritan threat...:confused:

Do you remember exactly how they phrased the question :/ I keep trying to remember but can't
Lots of people learn essays by wrote on topics and then throw it out paying only loose attention to the essay, they'll have just seen a religious threat question rather than a specific Jesuit question. Which is fine for a B/C answer, but A/A* requires you to specifically lock into the question itself, not parrot an answer you've prepared in advance on religious threats. If the question did not ask for comparisons or explicitly mention puritans it will be wasted time and ink on the part of those who did.
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You could say that if we compare the Catholic threat with other problems that Elizabeth faced such as the Puritan threat (which wasn't much of a threat) then the Catholic threat was dangerous (because they had a leader etc which the puritans didn't).

if that makes sense..
Ohhh that would've been a good point. So the Catholic threat was dangerous in comparison to other 'threats'. Sadly I did not do that :rolleyes: Oh well nothing I can do about it now I guess
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That's what I thought, but a lot of people went through the catholic threat and te puritan threat...:confused:

Do you remember exactly how they phrased the question :/ I keep trying to remember but can't
It was something like 'How serious a threat to Elizabeth I's position were the Catholic missionary priests and Jesuits?'
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I think we can all conclude: **** you AQA

I'm sure many of you have other exams coming up. time to focus on them and put this paper behind us!

people saying they're wrong should not fret about it.
a)you might be right b)theres nothing you can change
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Lots of people learn essays by wrote on topics and then throw it out paying only loose attention to the essay, they'll have just seen a religious threat question rather than a specific Jesuit question. Which is fine for a B/C answer, but A/A* requires you to specifically lock into the question itself, not parrot an answer you've prepared in advance on religious threats. If the question did not ask for comparisons or explicitly mention puritans it will be wasted time and ink on the part of those who did.
Words of wisdom! I hope you're right!
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That's what I thought, but a lot of people went through the catholic threat and te puritan threat...:confused:

Do you remember exactly how they phrased the question :/ I keep trying to remember but can't
Oh god I can't remember it! (not a good sign)

Something like

Were the Jesuit and missionary priests a threat to Elizabeth's position? It wasn't though.. If I remember 'Elizabeth's position' was placed further to the left. They definitely mentioned a threat to Elizabeth's position though
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It was something like 'How serious a threat to Elizabeth I's position were the Catholic missionary priests and Jesuits?'
This
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How serious a threat were the Catholic missionary priests and the jesuits to Elizabeth I's position
OK, but it didn't specify a time period right?
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OK, but it didn't specify a time period right?
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OK, but it didn't specify a time period right?
I generalised the missionary movement, but I did specifically talk about the later years' split.


WHAT DID EVERYONE ELSE WRITE?!
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I thought that Peter Wentworth and Anthony Cope were members of parliament and not her ministers....?
yes, they were! hence the sad face! but it was only briefly
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Lots of people learn essays by wrote on topics and then throw it out paying only loose attention to the essay, they'll have just seen a religious threat question rather than a specific Jesuit question. Which is fine for a B/C answer, but A/A* requires you to specifically lock into the question itself, not parrot an answer you've prepared in advance on religious threats. If the question did not ask for comparisons or explicitly mention puritans it will be wasted time and ink on the part of those who did.
But in order to decide what a threat is you need to look at her other problems and how they compared with the Jesuit one (such as the Puritan threat).

I think if you mentioned it and linked it to the Priests it should be ok?
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Damn I mentioned the Northern Rebellion in question 3 and called Northumberland and Westmoreland ministers, would I lose marks for that?

I did mention Leicester's response though with his army from the Midlands.

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Seems plausible enough to me.
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