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I passed my test about a month ago and am looking into getting my first car. I'm really keen to get a Ford Ka but I've heard that rust can be a problem with them because the paint is thin and its not galvanised, and can often fail MOTs because of rust. 
Has anyone had any experiences with rust on Ka's?
Has anyone had any experiences with rust on Ka's?
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(Original post by Raine)
I passed my test about a month ago and am looking into getting my first car. I'm really keen to get a Ford Ka but I've heard that rust can be a problem with them because the paint is thin and its not galvanised, and can often fail MOTs because of rust.
Has anyone had any experiences with rust on Ka's?
I passed my test about a month ago and am looking into getting my first car. I'm really keen to get a Ford Ka but I've heard that rust can be a problem with them because the paint is thin and its not galvanised, and can often fail MOTs because of rust.
Has anyone had any experiences with rust on Ka's?
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kas are very well known to be rusty. usually under the doors, and around the petrol cap
there's one guy who lives along my street who owns a 2008 one that already had bad rust developing (not just one tiny bubble, but a massive patch along the frame/under the door).....barely 3 years old,and it's already started decomposing? damn.
there's one guy who lives along my street who owns a 2008 one that already had bad rust developing (not just one tiny bubble, but a massive patch along the frame/under the door).....barely 3 years old,and it's already started decomposing? damn.
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The real bad reputation of the old mark1 Ka rusting has only just come about in the last few years because people use modern design as the baseline to compare and contrast.
The real bad reputation of the old mark1 Ka rusting has only just come about in the last few years because people use modern design as the baseline to compare and contrast.
Just to add my brother's Ka didn't have any significant damage and the paint work was in reasonable condition, so that's not the reason it went rusty. Also rust proofing isn't difficult - there's no great difference between modern chassis rust proofing and those of 15-20 years ago.
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I wont pretend that I know much about cars but the person that did the research for me for a car did point this out to me also they are pretty bad in terms of safety which might concern you 
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Yep, the bubble design all rust quite badly - it's a matter of when rather than if.
Check the sills and round the petrol cap.
Check the sills and round the petrol cap.
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KA's are one of the worst cars fo rust. Definately.
The sills basically just rott and peel away if they are not regurlary coated in underseal (which their usually not).
The fuel cap is prone to rust aswell, an area where you cant apply underseal for obv reasons.
If i was you, I would have a good look in these areas + under the wheel arches before buying. Once you have, underseal it straight away.
The sills basically just rott and peel away if they are not regurlary coated in underseal (which their usually not).
The fuel cap is prone to rust aswell, an area where you cant apply underseal for obv reasons.
If i was you, I would have a good look in these areas + under the wheel arches before buying. Once you have, underseal it straight away.
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They also rust badly around the petrol filler cap- and the only way to get that sorted properly without doing a right bodge job is have the whole panel replaced.
They also rust badly around the petrol filler cap- and the only way to get that sorted properly without doing a right bodge job is have the whole panel replaced.
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This isnt true, if you get a good mechanic who is good with body work then they can sort the rust without any problems and there is no need to replace the panel. Ford Ka's are not bad cars, they are actually pretty good first cars...
This isnt true, if you get a good mechanic who is good with body work then they can sort the rust without any problems and there is no need to replace the panel. Ford Ka's are not bad cars, they are actually pretty good first cars...
you can't replace rotten metal with fresh air.
If the panel has holed, the ONLY way to cure rust is to cut out the rot and weld in fresh good metal.
Any other "repair" is a bodge.
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Bull.
you can't replace rotten metal with fresh air.
If the panel has holed, the ONLY way to cure rust is to cut out the rot and weld in fresh good metal.
Any other "repair" is a bodge.
Bull.
you can't replace rotten metal with fresh air.
If the panel has holed, the ONLY way to cure rust is to cut out the rot and weld in fresh good metal.
Any other "repair" is a bodge.
Surely that would be sufficient to be used on the area such as the fuel tank filler on such a car? I mean we're not talking about a classic car here......just a jalopy?
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Wasn't there some liquid that you could apply to rust and it would turn it back into metal again?
Surely that would be sufficient to be used on the area such as the fuel tank filler on such a car? I mean we're not talking about a classic car here......just a jalopy?
Wasn't there some liquid that you could apply to rust and it would turn it back into metal again?
Surely that would be sufficient to be used on the area such as the fuel tank filler on such a car? I mean we're not talking about a classic car here......just a jalopy?
Yeah, loads of products. I've got a selection in my shed. That only stops the chemical reaction and stabilises the metal.
The trouble with the KA is that the bubbles round the fuel cap are caused by spray from inside the wheel well. Essentially the rot from the inside out. By the time you see a bubble, if you press it hard enough you'll make a hole.
Anyway, it's not like fabricating a little patch and welding it in is difficult / time consuming?
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(Original post by JC.)
KURUST? POR 15? Jenolite?
Yeah, loads of products. I've got a selection in my shed. That only stops the chemical reaction and stabilises the metal.
The trouble with the KA is that the bubbles round the fuel cap are caused by spray from inside the wheel well. Essentially the rot from the inside out. By the time you see a bubble, if you press it hard enough you'll make a hole.
Anyway, it's not like fabricating a little patch and welding it in is difficult / time consuming?
KURUST? POR 15? Jenolite?
Yeah, loads of products. I've got a selection in my shed. That only stops the chemical reaction and stabilises the metal.
The trouble with the KA is that the bubbles round the fuel cap are caused by spray from inside the wheel well. Essentially the rot from the inside out. By the time you see a bubble, if you press it hard enough you'll make a hole.
Anyway, it's not like fabricating a little patch and welding it in is difficult / time consuming?
Not a welder or iron worker
Wouldn't know how difficult it is..... prefer leaving those tasks to people who know what they are doing 
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If you really want a ka then you could get the wheel arches regularly undersealed to protect it from rusting. Its a short job (literally like 15 minutes) and if you or your family know a mechanic then they will probably do it very cheaply. You can do it yourself with a paintbrush if you really want to save cash or just not get a ka at all :P
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(Original post by JC.)
Bull.
you can't replace rotten metal with fresh air.
If the panel has holed, the ONLY way to cure rust is to cut out the rot and weld in fresh good metal.
Any other "repair" is a bodge.
Bull.
you can't replace rotten metal with fresh air.
If the panel has holed, the ONLY way to cure rust is to cut out the rot and weld in fresh good metal.
Any other "repair" is a bodge.
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This isnt true, if you get a good mechanic who is good with body work then they can sort the rust without any problems and there is no need to replace the panel. Ford Ka's are not bad cars, they are actually pretty good first cars...
This isnt true, if you get a good mechanic who is good with body work then they can sort the rust without any problems and there is no need to replace the panel. Ford Ka's are not bad cars, they are actually pretty good first cars...
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(Original post by Emma:-))
Trust me, they arent.
Trust me, they arent.
I only ask because I see you're not that far away from us (between alfreton and chesterfield).
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My ford ka has rust in a few places, the worst being around the fuel filler and on the hinges on the back windows. Other than that it has been absolutely fine for it, it is a 51 plate, i have had it for a year and a half, and I live by the sea which kinda gives the best chance for rust to form. I found when I was looking though that black ones of a similar age seemed to be a lot rustier than other colours, one even had rust at the base of the A pillar. A friend of mine says that around that time a lot of companies were switching towards more environmentally friendly paints, but in some colours on some cars this caused bad rusting. So my advice is, avoid black ford kas.
To the guy saying they are bad first cars, I think they are fantastic, they handle brilliantly compared to a lot of other small cars, they are reliable, and I easily manage 45mpg out of mine.
To the guy saying they are bad first cars, I think they are fantastic, they handle brilliantly compared to a lot of other small cars, they are reliable, and I easily manage 45mpg out of mine.
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(Original post by JC.)
What are you running out of interest?
I only ask because I see you're not that far away from us (between alfreton and chesterfield).
What are you running out of interest?
I only ask because I see you're not that far away from us (between alfreton and chesterfield).
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Rusting is normal. My brother's corolla is a 08 and all the scratched areas on it started rusting pretty fast.
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