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Would you *ever* give up your ideal dreams/future/career for your perfect partner? watch

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    Ideal future
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    I think id go for partner. I'd feel like there was still something missing if i had a perfect career but no partner
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    (Original post by ZizziHikaru)
    perfect partner doesn't = boring. It's PERFECT.
    So does perfect career/dreams/aspirations?
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    (Original post by Smophy)
    Sharing your joy with someone is what I mean. Having someone to celebrate with. Someone to be happy for you and to spur you on. Someone to cheer you up or even to scream at when things go wrong (one who understands and forgives you for it though lol).
    So I need a husband to spur me on/cheer me up/understand me? What the ****?

    I don't mean to sound all mushy and yucky and stuff (really isn't me) but to me having someone to love and who loves me is much closer to the meaning of life than status and money. Success, money and status just do not make up for the loneliness in my opinion.
    I'm career-driven and I do not necessarily want success (depends how you define it) and I most definitely do not want money/status.

    Career-driven =/= loneliness.
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    (Original post by History123)
    I think id go for partner. I'd feel like there was still something missing if i had a perfect career but no partner
    I'd personally feel something was missing if I had the perfect partner, but not the perfect career.
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    Difference in how people feel i suppose. I suppose if youve never had money, you dont miss what you never had
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    (Original post by im so academic)
    So I need a husband to spur me on/cheer me up/understand me? What the ****?



    I'm career-driven and I do not necessarily want success (depends how you define it) and I most definitely do not want money/status.

    Career-driven =/= loneliness.
    I didn't say that. I said that is what I want. I didn't say it is what you need. Or even what I need for that matter.

    I don't understand, your career driven but don't want success. Not very driven really is it.
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    Certainly not! A 'perfect' partner is not everything, as one would eventually tire of them anyway - certainly not somebody to give up your hopes, plans and dreams for!

    I would never dream of doing such a thing! I would try my best to finish all of my plans and attain all dreams etc before embarking on obtaining a perfect mate and conceivinb offspring - this will be last on the agenda so as to have enough resources, wealth, property etc to take care of the future family and secure its future.

    A well-planned and successful parent brings up a successful and happy family - not like members of the general public (the 'masses') who either achieve offspring 'by accident' or before securing the family's future. Hence, why there is still a wealth of poverty in the developed world.

    Those who desire to raise a family should use the frontal lobes well, in order to plan ahead for the future and secure enough resources and wealth for the future family - this includes, but is not limited to, obtaining a successful and permanent career position, having suitable and stable property (mortgages etc), an abundance of savings, preparing for a future baby's future beforehand etc etc.

    We must do away with this primitive evolutionary perspective where we just recklessly spread our 'seed' and achieve many one-night stands etc. It is high time that Modern Humanity plan well for the future and use the new neocortex that enables us to do so!
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    (Original post by Smophy)
    I didn't say that. I said that is what I want. I didn't say it is what you need. Or even what I need for that matter.

    I don't understand, your career driven but don't want success. Not very driven really is it.
    Well you define "success" as such a negative term, con notating it with loneliness and therefore depression.

    So technically I do not want "success" under your definition.

    Why is it so bad to be successful?
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    [QUOTE=Advanced Subsidiary;30388040]Ideal future by a mile. What I plan to do is just way too large and global to give it up for another person.[/QUOTE]

    Future: Create a global criminal organisation called AKATSUKI.
    Plan: to unite the world by casting a powerful genjutsu known as Tsukuyomi on the moon, in order to achieve 'world peace' :p:

    Damn, i havent spoken to you in ages.
    How you been?

    Back to the question, i actually do not know. I do not believe in 'love' or a 'perfect partner'. So i will lean more to the dreams/future prospects, saying that who knows? :dontknow:
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    wow this is a close one so far.

    I'm not voting as I don't have an ideal future/career in my mind, so I could vote for perfect partner. But on the other hand I would love to find an ideal career because it's so frustrating I can't make my mind up. Just like the vote lol.
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    (Original post by im so academic)
    To state the parameters of this question (as it could be interpreted in different ways):

    *Pretend you have not experienced your dream/future/career, i.e. to be an investment banker or to travel around the world. So it is NOT a case of "yeah, when I'll give up my career half-way through". No, it's one or the other.

    *Your dream or whatever cannot be finding "true love" or "happiness" or any of that wishy-washy crap. Just definite and specific goals. No emotions included, it has to be an actual goal.

    *To reiterate once again, it is a ONE or the OTHER choice. No best of both worlds in this case.

    I edited this bit as people are going down the "compromise" route, i.e. they'll take the perfect partner with a not so perfect career. So the situation is changed. NO compromise. It's:

    *Perfect partner + ****/no career
    *Perfect career + ****/no partner


    Also, no exploiting any loopholes.

    Thanks. Interested in your opinions.
    I think you'll disown me, but I'll go for perfect partner. Assuming everything really is "perfect", which is of course impossible, I will have respect/companionship/intellectual stimulation/love and ultimately happiness forever. Nothing can beat that. Also, having children and loving them is basically my ultimate dream, so that would top a job for that reason. Human contact and relationships (not just romantic) are more important than career success. You can make happiness outside of your job title.

    EDIT: again, just to emphasise I'm taking perfect as perfect. I know that it could never work out like that, there'll be problems/off days/loss of attraction, but this is all theoretcial.
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    (Original post by Tsukuyomi)
    Future: Create a global criminal organisation called AKATSUKI.
    Plan: to unite the world by casting a powerful genjutsu known as Tsukuyomi on the moon, in order to achieve 'world peace' :p:

    Damn, i havent spoken to you in ages.
    How you been?

    Back to the question, i actually do not know. I do not believe in 'love' or a 'perfect partner'. So i will lean more to the dreams/future prospects, saying that who knows? :dontknow:
    Mate I have to be honest. Madara's idea is pretty ****ing smart. Mugen Tsukuyomi, not bad at all - there will be no malice in th world - I don't really disagree with it at all.

    Yeah I've fine man, I hope you're up to date with everything
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    (Original post by im so academic)
    Well you define "success" as such a negative term, con notating it with loneliness and therefore depression.

    So technically I do not want "success" under your definition.

    Why is it so bad to be successful?
    I haven't said success is a negative thing. I have simply said that success is not what I would want over a partner. I never defined success as being lonely. I understood the idea of this thread is its one or the other. Career or partner. Without a partner I would be lonely and therefore, seeing as though for the purpose of this debate you can't have a perfect partner and you dream career, I would be lonely if I chose my dream career.
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    (Original post by BookWormShanti)
    I think you'll disown me, but I'll go for perfect partner.
    Nothing wrong with that. Actually, just realised your username - really?! :p: As long as you respect other people's choices, that's fine. :yep:

    Assuming everything really is "perfect", which is of course impossible, I will have respect/companionship/intellectual stimulation/love and ultimately happiness forever. Nothing can beat that. Also, having children and loving them is basically my ultimate dream, so that would top a job for that reason. Human contact and relationships (not just romantic) are more important than career success. You can make happiness outside of your job title.
    I understand.

    EDIT: again, just to emphasise I'm taking perfect as perfect. I know that it could never work out like that, there'll be problems/off days/loss of attraction, but this is all theoretcial.
    Ideally, both would be "perfect" really. :p:
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    (Original post by Smophy)
    I haven't said success is a negative thing. I have simply said that success is not what I would want over a partner. I never defined success as being lonely. I understood the idea of this thread is its one or the other. Career or partner. Without a partner I would be lonely and therefore, seeing as though for the purpose of this debate you can't have a perfect partner and you dream career, I would be lonely if I chose my dream career.
    Fair enough. If that's what's best for you, great.

    But for me, it's not.
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    (Original post by im so academic)
    Fair enough. If that's what's best for you, great.

    But for me, it's not.
    So we agree to disagree lol
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    (Original post by im so academic)
    Nothing wrong with that. Actually, just realised your username - really?! :p: As long as you respect other people's choices, that's fine. :yep:



    I understand.



    Ideally, both would be "perfect" really. :p:
    What did you realise about my username? :confused:
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    No way - Unless he was very rich.
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    It depends to what extent and under what circumstances I'd have to give it up.

    For example, if I had to stop being a barrister (my ideal career) and become a solicitor (my 2nd choice) to get my perfect partner, then it wouldn't be so bad.

    Secondly, why should I have to give up my career for my perfect partner? If it were because they didn't want me to to pursue my perfect career - i.e. I were in the army and they were scared I'd be killed/didn't like me going away for X amount of time annually - then no, because they wouldn't be my perfect partner.
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    My dream is to have a perfect partner.

    2 birds with one stone
 
 
 
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