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What do you think the outcome will be of tonight's vote on Top Up Fees, not what you WANT but what you think WILL happen.
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What do you think the outcome will be of tonight's vote on Top Up Fees, not what you WANT but what you think WILL happen.
hmmm... i think things will stay pretty much the same as they are now
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What do you think the outcome will be of tonight's vote on Top Up Fees, not what you WANT but what you think WILL happen.
I'm sure the vote will go with BLAIR but the feeling is that Brown was the one who told the rebels to change their mind and vote with blair.
What is Brown planning?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3433391.stm
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Blair will win the vote.

I don't understand why people say he should resign from being PM when you just get another labour PM who is going to have pretty much the same views.
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well apparently the whips have been out in force today, and even the PM has been speaking to rebels individually. i think it'll probably be pushed through, unfortunately, but i think Blair probably wont last out another election either, so there might be some hope. (not that i an any way support the tories, lol )
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Blair will win the vote.

I don't understand why people say he should resign from being PM when you just get another labour PM who is going to have pretty much the same views.
i thought Blair and brown (he'd take over if blair left) had fairly different views on some things

ON THE NEWS NOW::: a deal has been done with the chief rebel, Nick Brown, strengthening Blair's position a lot.

deal: Brown will support it, if there is a full-scale review of the system and whether it has worked or not next year.
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i thought Blair and brown (he'd take over if blair left) had fairly different views on some things

ON THE NEWS NOW::: a deal has been done with the chief rebel, Nick Brown, strengthening Blair's position a lot.

deal: Brown will support it, if there is a full-scale review of the system and whether it has worked or not next year.
Yes but the deal only came about because Gordon Brown told his ally Nick Brown to vote for the bill.
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i thought Blair and brown (he'd take over if blair left) had fairly different views on some things
On some things and maybe the tuition fees, but they are from the same party. I hope Blair stays PM. Although I liked the way the 90's poked fun at the Torys, it would make our political comedies even funner
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I just need a bit of a top up on my top up fees thing, will it only affect places such as Oxford and Cambridge?
Because I'm pretty confused about all this crap Blair says.
First he campaigns to win the student vote with all that Cool Britannia crap, then he rids us of grants, then pledges to get 50% of people to go to University (thus devalueing degrees) then he decides yes even though we've managed to make the amount of people go up lets charge more for it.
I mean is this guy schizophrenic or what?
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Yes but the deal only came about because Gordon Brown told his ally Nick Brown to vote for the bill.
didnt know that bit -interesting, i thougth Gordon Borwn was against the Bill? hmm, united we stand, divided we fall i suppose...
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didnt know that bit -interesting, i thougth Gordon Borwn was against the Bill? hmm, united we stand, divided we fall i suppose...
i love The Bill
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I just need a bit of a top up on my top up fees thing, will it only affect places such as Oxford and Cambridge?
Because I'm pretty confused about all this crap Blair says.
First he campaigns to win the student vote with all that Cool Britannia crap, then he rids us of grants, then pledges to get 50% of people to go to University (thus devalueing degrees) then he decides yes even though we've managed to make the amount of people go up lets charge more for it.
I mean is this guy schizophrenic or what?
not schizophrenic, but not left OR right wing either.

just populist.
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i love The Bill
Hahahahahaha, have some positive rep for that lol
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On some things and maybe the tuition fees, but they are from the same party. I hope Blair stays PM. Although I liked the way the 90's poked fun at the Torys, it would make our political comedies even funner
Browns views are quite different even within the same party - When brown becomes leader there will be far less following the USA and there will also be no Euro - yuPEEEEE!
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Hahahahahaha, have some positive rep for that lol
he he thanks
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not schizophrenic, but not left OR right wing either.

just populist.
Mmmm, I thought the Labour government was supposed to represent the working class...then my dad told me it got hijacked by the bourgeoise and they promised the working class all this stuff so they voted for them, then forgot about the people that put them there....it's a sad fact of life that the only decent politicians will never be politicians
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didnt know that bit -interesting, i thougth Gordon Borwn was against the Bill? hmm, united we stand, divided we fall i suppose...
Some theories suggest that there is a new 'agreement' between Gordon Brown and Tony Blair over the leadership - lets hope Blair honours his promise this time.
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Browns views are quite different even within the same party - When brown becomes leader there will be far less following the USA and there will also be no Euro - yuPEEEEE!
My votes with him then
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Browns views are quite different even within the same party - When brown becomes leader there will be far less following the USA and there will also be no Euro - yuPEEEEE!
Really? I don't know too much about Brown... so I don't know what kind of PM he'd make! Do you think the labour party will survive the next election?
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My votes with him then
Good! I only hope that Blair is ousted in time for Brown to save us.
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