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# RAF Airmen Selection Test (AST)!! watch

1. And to add to my above post, like TsarLZ stated, revise basic Mathematics including Formula, decimals, fractions and algebra, but don't worry they are only basic questions.

However, don't think that the test may be easy, even though TsarLZ mentioned it was for him/her it may be tricky for others, (Me for instance), I failed by few marks for WSOp and I was devastated, so don't take it for granted.
2. (Original post by TsarLZ)
Having sat the AST last Thursday as a filter test for SNCO ATC it was rather easy. I had an AA in Science GCSE double award, and an E in AS Physics (Lmao) and managed to score a 9 on the Electrical section (I think its out of 10) which I didnt even need for my trade etc so it's not that difficult if you have a GCSE understanding.

From what I remember of that part there was a few questions on electrical circuits where there would be VERY basic circuits involving lights, a battery and a few switches and you had to say what would happen to the lights if switch x y z was switched on off.

There was another bit about basic resistance, and about readings on ammeters depending on where they were in the circuit.

Also i'm fairly sure there was a question like how current is measured etc.

If you are going for a Technician spot you should have more than a basic grasp on it anyway and should destroy the test!

For the maths side you get 4 minutes to answer some very simple maths questions, revise adding basic fractions 1 / 2 + 3 /2 for example, and fast addition of decimals. To put it into perspective I finished within 2 minutes.

This website is fairly helpful for getting a general idea of what some of the questions are like http://www.kent.ac.uk/careers/psychotests.htm.Try the numerical reasoning and verbal reasoning ones from that, but bear in mind that reasoning is a hard thing to learn by revision, you have probably got the natural aptitude to do it anyway!
Thanks TsarLZ!! That is pretty much exactly what I needed to know!! I hope I will be able to do as well as you I really doubt I will do that well mate!! You have probably got better common sense than me haha. What trade did you apply for? Cheers Curt
3. (Original post by WILSON92)
I would recommend taking a nice folder with all your certificates, ID documentation and everything else they require you to bring, it makes it look like you have made the effort and that you are keen.
I had a few clumsy moments, I didn't have my original Birth Certificate, only a certified photo-copy.

In regards to the suit, I didn't wear one, instead I work smart shirt and tie (good creased shirt) makes you look well disciplined, firmly pressed trousers and polished shoes.

Like many have mentioned above, they are a big recruitment agency, make your first impression count. Think ahead, try not to ask silly questions and of course turn up on time, I had a few candidates at my AST turn up like they had just woken up, they were later dismissed.

Overall, the very best of luck.
Thanks!! I am going to say the same as with TsarLZ!! Great Advice exactly what I was looking for!! I will try and get a nice folder for wednesday to put all my stuff in I will do my best to look smart as well, I am getting the navy suit that I put a link of on my original post!!

...What type of formulas and algebra did you have on the AST?

I am really sorry that you failed your AST . Best of Luck next time you sit your test!!

Thanks Again!! Regards Curt
4. No problem mate.

Algebra wise it was literally like:

(X / 2) + 4 = 8

What does x equal?

If you have the most basic understanding of algebra this should be a easy! However I would try some with some larger numbers and maybe squared or square rooted bits.

I'm going for Air Traffic control so like Wilson this was only a filter test! P.s Sorry to hear you failed Wilson :/

Like Wilson said I had a bit of a doh moment when I didn't bring my paper driving licence, but they were cool about it. Obviously you want to avoid that so definitely don't forget anything and if you don't have / can't find it tell them first or they will just send you away!!!

Good luck!
5. Thanks for the advice everyone!! Really appreciate it. I sat my AST yesterday and passed Need to prepare for my interview now on the 31st March :/ I am even more worred about that

Cheers Curt
6. Congratulations, I'm had my P2 Presentation yesterday and am now waiting on the medical supplements I sent off to come back all clear, so you can tell us how your Interview went :P
7. Thanks TsarLZ!! Is the P2 presentation for officers and non commissioned aircrew? I am a P3 candidate (ground trade) so I am guessing I will not be doing it? I will do my best but I am not too good at writing stuff like that and I wil probably be too nervous to remember I will see what I can do though!!

This is what I got on my AST, not perfect but at least I passed:

Group Scores
A - 64, B - 65, C - 65, D - 72, E - 62, F - To be manually input.

Specific Skills
Verbal Reasoning (VR) - 5
Numerical Reasoning (NR) - 7
Work Rate (WR) - 4
Electrical Comprehension - 7
Mechanical Comprehension - 8
Memory (SR) - 6

There were 10 people to start off with and 4 people failed there AST!! :O Hopefully they will pass next time
8. I have my AST on the 31st May :-) i am going for SNCO ATC just wondering tarlz, what have been the next steps for you? thanks
9. He ppl

I'm new to these parts of the Internet and this is my first post so please be gentle

I'm soon going to be applying for SNCO ATC and hav been doing as much research as possible and have found TSR to be a fountain of knowledge.

I just hav one question regarding the AST.... When u say the maths sections need to be done in ur head do u mean that u hav no paper to jot down ur calculations and it all has to be done mentally or does it just mean u cannot use a calculator?

Might sound a dumb question but just looking for some clarification.

Thanks
10. Ok so I've just come across the answer to my own question... Apparently u get paper during the numerical reasoning section for ur rough working out.

Does anyone know if this is the case for the numerical reasoning as part of the tests at OASC?

Again... Thanks
11. Yeah you get paper. I asked if i could keep it for the next section whatever that was but he said no and took it away loool.
12. And yes you get paper for a certain maths based test at OASC, BUT not all of them. But they don't count towards ATC anyway I don't think.
13. And, tbh, the sums aren't that hard. If you're writing them down you're wasting time - time which is at a premium.
14. They only give you paper for the easiest sums, the ones where it would be helpful they don't give you
15. Thanks for the speedy feedback ppl

Just want to be as mentally prepared as I can be I suppose

I've looked at the example question on the RAF website and just assumed they would increase in difficulty from those.

Also... Iwas under the impression numerical reasoning needed to be scored pretty well for ATC???
16. Theres only 1 maths related test and it counts for 11% of the overall score for ATC, I think it's the speedy simple maths one.

What I did for the Air Navigation Test or whatever was when I had a number I calculated, I'd type it into the answer box, then use it to figure out the actual answer then delete it and put the answer in , proper resourceful me :P
17. Lol... Resourceful indeed

So which sections carry the most bearing on ATC ?
18. Hi everyone,
I've got my aptitude test on the 14th August, anyone know the pass marks for a fire-fighter? whether I need to score high marks or lower marks? searched everywhere but cant find anything, any help would be much appreciated!! Thanks
19. (Original post by andrew1906)
Hi everyone,
I've got my aptitude test on the 14th August, anyone know the pass marks for a fire-fighter? whether I need to score high marks or lower marks? searched everywhere but cant find anything, any help would be much appreciated!! Thanks
Does it matter?

Revise as best you can, pass as best you can. Put in nothing less than maximum effort. Why would you do anything else?

If someone did come back and say you needed minimal marks does that mean you wouldn't try as hard?
20. Yes it does matter to me, doesbt mean I wont try my hardest because I will be, im just struggling a little with the spatial bit with the turning of shapes and the time you have to do the numerical reasoning

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