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    (Original post by pippa90)
    Well they probably did get dirty doing it in a park Come on, 12 years old, having sex with 5 grown men in a park. How is that not dirty?
    You mean dirty because it was muddy or something? It might not have rained that day.
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    (Original post by Stefan1991)
    You mean dirty because it was muddy or something? It might not have rained that day.
    I mean dirty in all senses.
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    (Original post by imomo16)
    They were 12. The law says that at that age a child is not capable of true consent and frankly I agree.
    Agreed - but looking at the article, one of the girls is seriously messed up...
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    Sure, it's unfair on the footballers, but they're texting school girls to have sex in a park... looks like they needed to be taught a lesson anyway.
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    (Original post by Stefan1991)
    Kids are only having sex younger because they are growing up faster. No one forced that 12 year old girl to go out and seek out sex, she did that out of her own free will. She actively organised and planned to go and have sex. At that age it is normal to feel urges, what's wrong with learning early and experimentation?
    Whats wrong with that?
    Whats wrong is that THEIR YOUNG AND STUPID and which in this situation has cost 6 men their careers. Messed up world we live in because of people like you !
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    This would be perfectly fine if one of the girls were Rebecca Black
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    the girls should be punished too.
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    (Original post by RevisionSuckss)
    Whats wrong with that?
    Whats wrong is that THEIR YOUNG AND STUPID and which in this situation has cost 6 men their careers. Messed up world we live in because of people like you !
    It's "they're" young and stupid. Learn how to spell.

    The only reason 6 men's lives were ruined was because of a stupid law, declaring consensual sex with someone younger than 13 "rape". The only stupid thing in the whole story is the law, no damage was done until the law had to be enforced.
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    (Original post by pippa90)
    I mean dirty in all senses.
    Why is it "dirty"?
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    (Original post by Stefan1991)
    Why is it "dirty"?
    Because she is 12 years old and sleeping with 5 grown men one after the other in a park at night... Like many others I believe that if someone willingly sleeps with more than one person in the space of a couple of hours, then they're probably quite ****gy person. Unless they're doing it for money and are in desperate need of it, have been blackmailed, raped or whatever.
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    (Original post by I am 12)
    the lighting must of gone wrong on the top right two
    You IDIOT!

    Shut the **** up.
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    How the world has changed. In the past both of those girls would have been locked away in a mental institution perhaps for the rest of their lives and those lads would have been forced into the armed forces. That happened to my grandad although the girl was a few years older and she got pregnant. She was locked up in a mental asylum and her child which was then referred to as a ******* child was taken from her and put in a home. While I don't think women who have children out of wedlock should be put in a mental hospital it's a pity we don't still have the stigma of ******* children.

    But there is something to be said for that. As in my opinion for one of those girls to be not only sexually active but essentially keen to be roasted by a group of lads suggests to me she has a psychological problem ,perhaps she was abused within her family. Sexual abuse in families is more common that sex abuse by strangers. I would certainly raise questions about the parenting of both girls at the very least. I do hope social services have got involved.12 yr olds should not be roaming the streets.It's a pity we cannot jail the parents as well.


    With the lads, it would all depend if I believed them about not knowing how old the girls were. It is in their favour that they confessed and were cooperative. However tagteaming girls in a park in my opinion really reflects the lack of moral standards we have in the world today. If I believed them these girls were 16,then I would have them flogged and then forced to do military service for 3 yrs,they can then resume their footaballing careers .Because this kind of lack of morals much be punished. If I didn't believe them, I'd give them longer in prison doing hard labour . Both girls especially the wannabe porn star one, I would detain in a psychiatric hospital for an evaluation and I would see if there is anything the Police can charge the parents with.

    I do think it is a general warning for all guys that we have to start checking girls ID if we pull in clubs.Some girls do look 18 even when they are underage. I would feel sorry for them if that was the situation but this kind of public rutting in my opinion must be harshly punished.
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    (Original post by Stefan1991)
    Kids grow up and start having sex. Is it really that shocking? Why does the idea of people having sex for enjoyment actually manage to depress you?
    Exactly kids grow up. She hasn't grown up yet. If you'd of told me even a 16 year old had done that, I would of still been a bit weirded out but this is a 12 year old engaging in a sex act that most people will never be part of in their whole lives (an orgy).

    The fact you're comparing me being disgusted by this to me having issues with people having sex just shows how moronic you are. I have no issue with anyone of a reasonable age who chooses to have sex as often as they want. This is just ridiculous though.

    It must be easy living your life right ? You approach things in their simplest sense. To you this is just "people having sex and liking it". You do this in every thread basically. People did get hurt, the girls probably hurt their parents a lot. The girls also hurt the "rapists" a lot because they are said in the article to be "disgusted" with what they did and their lives are ruined. The one girl who was reluctant to do this got hurt as well. It seems to me the only person who didn't get hurt is the girl who instigated everything and I'd bet my house she has/is been sexually abused because there are levels of sexuality (hyper-sexuality) that are major signs of emotional trauma but people like you just say "omg look at me I am so liberal, I think having sex all the time and with everyone is totally cool and really forward thinking of me".
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    IF the girls actually looked 12 then they deserve their punishment imo....i don't see how you can confuse a 12 year old with a 16 year old but IF they did look like 16 then they should be wiped off the sex offenders list and get some form of compensation
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    (Original post by Mazty)
    No it's because you are more eager to label something racist than stop and think for a second.
    That's not the case, I'm merely asking why you define them by colour and not as human beings. Then again, I wouldn't have anticipated I'd have gotten an answer, which makes it even more interesting.
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    Oh they just WOULD be from near me, lovely.
    Still, might be a bit harsh depending on how old the girls actually look...
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    (Original post by Ministerdonut)
    But there is something to be said for that. As in my opinion for one of those girls to be not only sexually active but essentially keen to be roasted by a group of lads suggests to me she has a psychological problem.
    Why have you jumped to the conclusion that it must be a psychological problem. It sounds like some sort of Victorian age rationality, if a girl is enjoying sex, she must be mentally ill. :rolleyes:

    (Original post by Ministerdonut)
    However tagteaming girls in a park in my opinion really reflects the lack of moral standards we have in the world today.
    What's morally wrong with tagteaming girls? Does it make it less immoral because it's in a park rather than a bedroom? I can't see how.

    (Original post by Ministerdonut)
    I do think it is a general warning for all guys that we have to start checking girls ID if we pull in clubs.Some girls do look 18 even when they are underage. I would feel sorry for them if that was the situation but this kind of public rutting in my opinion must be harshly punished.
    If they look old enough, sound old enough, act old enough, then they ARE old enough. There is fundamentally no difference between them and someone who's over-age. Explain to me what's the difference. Some people grow up and mature quicker.
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    (Original post by pippa90)
    Because she is 12 years old and sleeping with 5 grown men one after the other in a park at night... Like many others I believe that if someone willingly sleeps with more than one person in the space of a couple of hours, then they're probably quite ****gy person. Unless they're doing it for money and are in desperate need of it, have been blackmailed, raped or whatever.
    Or maybe they just wanted to... hasn't that crossed your mind? Why does it have to be blackmail, rape or some sort of deep-seated psychological problem?

    I don't think just because someone likes to sleep with more than one person per day means anything of the sort.
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    No smoke without fire. They were obviously desperate for it.

    It's sickening how quick girls are to scream rape.
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    (Original post by Arenas123)
    Exactly kids grow up. She hasn't grown up yet. If you'd of told me even a 16 year old had done that, I would of still been a bit weirded out but this is a 12 year old engaging in a sex act that most people will never be part of in their whole lives (an orgy).
    Why must people be a part of your lives to have sex with them? Have you never heard of a one night stand? Orgies happen all the time.

    (Original post by Arenas123)
    It must be easy living your life right ? You approach things in their simplest sense. To you this is just "people having sex and liking it". You do this in every thread basically.
    There is no reason to think any different, assuming lots of bizarre things you can't prove doesn't mean anything.

    (Original post by Arenas123)
    People did get hurt, the girls probably hurt their parents a lot. The girls also hurt the "rapists" a lot because they are said in the article to be "disgusted" with what they did and their lives are ruined.
    :facepalm:
    Sorry but that's terrible rationalising. Their lives are ruined because of the law, not the girls, and because what they did was exposed by the parents. Blame the parents if anything. As I said, if no one told the police, nothing would have come out of it and life would have gone on. Everyone would have put it down as an enjoyable experience and moved on.

    (Original post by Arenas123)
    The one girl who was reluctant to do this got hurt as well. It seems to me the only person who didn't get hurt is the girl who instigated everything and I'd bet my house she has/is been sexually abused because there are levels of sexuality (hyper-sexuality) that are major signs of emotional trauma but people like you just say "omg look at me I am so liberal, I think having sex all the time and with everyone is totally cool and really forward thinking of me".
    Stop inferring things with absolutely no proof, where does it say she has been sexually abused? If that was true wouldn't we have heard about the parents being investigated by now?

    The reluctant one might have been reluctant, but in the end she decided to. Nobody forced her, she was happy just to watch until the end when she felt left out. If she had been forced it would have been a much more serious crime and the judge would have said something about it in his sentencing, he did not.
 
 
 
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