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    (Original post by The-Real-One)
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    (Original post by Brandmon)
    Note people, that the West would have had easy access to the oil if they simply supported Gaddafi. Remember when many foreign oil workers pulled out of Libya?

    Also, the oil Libya provides is not at all significant. It could easily be replaced by either getting oil from the Saudis or relying on more Russian oil and gas.

    Top Ten Oil Exporting Countries

    * Saudi Arabia (8.73 million barrels per day)
    * Russia (6.67)
    * Norway (2.91)
    * Iran (2.55)
    * Venezuela (2.36)
    * United Arab Emirates (2.33)
    * Kuwait (2.20)
    * Nigeria (2.19)
    * Mexico (1.80)
    * Algeria (1.68)

    As you can see, the West would have profited more Oil-wise if it made an excuse to invade Algeria.

    So knowing that the "We did it for the oil" is bull****, and the West has no interest to colonise Libya: Yes, I fully support this military action.
    BP alone, has about £15 billion worth of oil in Libya.
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    (Original post by MilkyC)
    BP alone, has about £15 billion worth of oil in Libya.
    Maybe you wish to state the other sources of oil too, maybe we can then see how significant Libya is next to other sources

    Heck, BP is kicking itself after the UN called for a No-Fly Zone as business was going pretty normally with no problems. So intervention doesn't give us oil, it loses oil.
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    (Original post by MilkyC)
    The UN should **** off instead of pretending to give a **** about civilians dying, its so painstakingly obvious they just want to ensure their oil resources are all dandy. Let the Arabs sort it out amongst themselves.
    libyan oil reserves are barely significant, they don't even export to the USA.

    Gaddafi said he would honour previous deals, it would have been in our interests to allow him to slaughter his own people so the stats quo could have returned.
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    (Original post by MilkyC)
    The UN should **** off instead of pretending to give a **** about civilians dying, its so painstakingly obvious they just want to ensure their oil resources are all dandy. Let the Arabs sort it out amongst themselves.
    This.

    This action has bugger all to do with protecting civilians, they're probably going to bomb a civvy target next and then blame it on Gaddafi using "human shields".

    Totally disproportional and unnecessary, Gaddafi was only attacking civilians who also happened to be planning a coo, civilians that support him can carry on with their normal lives. If you say that's enough to intervene, then why aren't we attacking other countries with military dictators?

    The rebels are probably just as mental as he is, I doubt that western democracy will ever appear in the region by us bombing their cities. All that will happen is Gaddafi will now be able to unite the country against the invading west, we'll have another war over something that is nothing to do with us.
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    I think it's the right thing to do. Gaddafi is one of the worst dictators in my opinion, and he should be overthrown. The UK and the French / Amercians are doing the right thing. I think it's nice to see all the newspapers invariably supporting the mission as well. The UN has gone up hugely in my esteem ever since the resolution was passed.

    Thise who claim it's just "another Iraq" are being short-sighted. Unlike Iraq, this operation has the full backing of the UN, AND the Arab League. The Iraq invasion was built on a foundation of deceit by the last government; not so this time round. Libya isn't even that rich in oil and minerals compared to other north African and Middle Eastern countries, so I doubt that this is the main factor.
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    Unlike Iraq/Afghanistan this was a revolution started by the people instead of a foreign government deciding they didn't like the leader any more - in fact (I think, I'm not entirely sure) that the Libyan rebels requested support
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    same story as usual. The UK and others are answering calls from a popular revolution started inside Libya which Gadaffi has attempted to crush with his airforce and still morons on this forum are shouting 'THEY R JUST GOING FOR ZE OILLLLLLLLLLLL'.

    i do despair
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    I agree, it's about time.
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    (Original post by Brandmon)
    Note people, that the West would have had easy access to the oil if they simply supported Gaddafi. Remember when many foreign oil workers pulled out of Libya?

    Also, the oil Libya provides is not at all significant. It could easily be replaced by either getting oil from the Saudis or relying on more Russian oil and gas.

    Top Ten Oil Exporting Countries

    * Saudi Arabia (8.73 million barrels per day)
    * Russia (6.67)
    * Norway (2.91)
    * Iran (2.55)
    * Venezuela (2.36)
    * United Arab Emirates (2.33)
    * Kuwait (2.20)
    * Nigeria (2.19)
    * Mexico (1.80)
    * Algeria (1.68)

    As you can see, the West would have profited more Oil-wise if it made an excuse to invade Algeria.

    So knowing that the "We did it for the oil" is bull****, and the West has no interest to colonise Libya: Yes, I fully support this military action.
    Shall we rmind ourselves of the location of Libya?




    They have tried to trigger the protest in Algeria, but fortunately the Algerians aren't that dumb. Libyans did it with their own hands..and a time will come when they will regret just like the Iraqis today. Unfortunately..we don't learn from history.
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    (Original post by MilkyC)
    BP alone, has about £15 billion worth of oil in Libya.
    Then why do they needs us to "invade" for oil?
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    This will not end well
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    Whats the difference between the situation in Libya and the situations in Yemen and Bahrain?

    Why is the West so eager to get involved in Libya and do nothing in those countries? Oil maybe?
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    I'm sorry but I don't get how this is at all like Iraq or Afghanistan. Libya is a popular revolution. Iraq was an illegal war perpetrated to get oil and remove an anti-west dictator. In Iraq we put boots on the ground without the backing of the UN or Arab League. In Libya we are just providing air support with the backing of both the Arab League and the UN. Afghanistan also had support of the UN but we put ground forces in.

    Neither of those conflicts bear any resemblance to the Libyan situation so if anyone wants to explain to me why they are similar, feel free.
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    While it may well be a motivating factor it's far too simplistic to boil everything down to "they wants their oil". Give it a rest.
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    I don't know enough about it to really give an informed opinion, but at least it's backed by the UN unlike Iraq.
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    (Original post by AshleyT)
    I think it's kinda different though in the fact that the UN seem much more involved...rather than Iraq and Afghanistan being taken care of Illegally by UK and USA?

    Hopefully won't be replaced by a puppet...but with democracy which is what Libya people seem to be fighting for.

    Afghanistan was sanctioned by the UN....
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    I think the UN have done very well so far, just got to hope they stick to this plan now! But I honestly can't see them doing...
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    (Original post by meenu89)
    Afghanistan was sanctioned by the UN....
    Ah, was it?
    How comes it's thought of as an illegal war(if the UN and thus pretty much the whole world voted for it? Or is that not how it works?)?
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    (Original post by AshleyT)
    Ah, was it?
    How comes it's thought of as an illegal war(if the UN and thus pretty much the whole world voted for it? Or is that not how it works?)?
    I think you are getting mixed up with Iraq.
 
 
 
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