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316 to 311.

Blair should be f**king hung, drawn and quartered.
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316 to 311.

Blair should be f**king hung, drawn and quartered.
What an absolute c***!! Arghghhhgh i am so angry
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*Feel's very alone in his support for the introduction of top-up fees*
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How did a closet-conservative manage to hijack Labour

"New"-Labour indeed...
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How did a closet-conservative manage to hijack Labour

"New"-Labour indeed...
stupid question from a non-UK citizen: how much are the fees gonna rise?
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stupid question from a non-UK citizen: how much are the fees gonna rise?
Doesn't it depend where you go?

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Yes, but most of the top institutions will charge the new rate of £3000 / year.
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*Feel's very alone in his support for the introduction of top-up fees*
I agree with you.
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Yes, but most of the top institutions will charge the new rate of £3000 / year.
To be paid only once the student is in full time employment at a rate of 9% of any earnings over 15,000 a year for a maximum of 25 years.
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*Feel's very alone in his support for the introduction of top-up fees*
I'm with you. Although I would have preferred Universities to have the ability to charge far higher than £3000 to families who can afford it.
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Yes, but most of the top institutions will charge the new rate of £3000 / year.
What does that mean, the unis can set a fee level themselves??

But I dont understand some of the discussions, that is still a lot cheaper than in the States!

Sorry for being so ignorant ;-)
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ya know what the funny thing is as of next yr the current yr 11 will get paid to stay on at sixth form. if a family earns less than £30,000 a child will get £30 a week to get higher qualifications.

yeah n then those who are get paid to stay on wil then receive help to go to uni, with this whole top up fees thing. basically middle class paying the poorer to study.

now wheres the sense in that tell me, u genius people i soo cant see it!!granted it is economically viable but MORALLY tis wrong!!!!!! talk bout hitting incentive. that lil Blair deserves a SPANKING!!!!
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Yes, but most of the top institutions will charge the new rate of £3000 / year.
I'm split - it means that my parents will need to fork out a lot of money to help my brother through university, but since they are academics themselves they will hopefully benefit. I'm pretty biased, but they do deserve more money - £30,000 (or thereabouts) is pitiful for academics with MAs, PhDs and 20 years experience.

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*Feel's very alone in his support for the introduction of top-up fees*
I support it too (kinda!) If you look at the other options then top-up fees are a better idea. Aren't the alternatives raising taxes (which no-one will be pleased with) or the conservatives' approach of restricting numbers goin to uni! Hmm, im thinkin topup fees are the most practical option...tho im sure many will disagree...especially since its likely that the UK's unis will base themselves upon US unis and charge stupidly high fees eventually.

The main issue i have with topup fees is that middle class kids lose out, no grants or anything - all these ideas of charging more for education comes from the generation who recieved the majority of their education for free i.e. recieved grants etc hmm....
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One is not amused.
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What does that mean, the unis can set a fee level themselves??

But I dont understand some of the discussions, that is still a lot cheaper than in the States!

Sorry for being so ignorant ;-)
Yes, up to a maximum of 3,000 p/a.
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Yes, up to a maximum of 3,000 p/a.
And from this year on? That sucks.
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And from this year on? That sucks.
no only those who intend to start uni in the academic yr of 2006 (sept 2006) those doing gcses now. those currently studying alevels n plan to start in 2004 or 2005 will not be affected! it not only sucks...it sucks monkey ass!
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And from this year on? That sucks.
No, people starting uni in 2004 or 2005 will not be affected.
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I really do not get this (sorry)

I'm starting university in october. So will I pay the increased rate from:

A. Now on (i.e. all three years)

B. from 2006 (i.e. one year)

C. Not at all (since I started my course before 2006)
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