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    (Original post by tazarooni89)
    That was a serious question man, you could answer it instead of just negging :confused:
    :sadnod: OP has no understanding of capitalism.
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    (Original post by berryboysh)
    You know the point i'm trying to make, stop acting thick. There are people out there , hardworking people who work day and night and spend most of their time in work then out that are actually making a difference to society and yet earn peanuts compared to footballers.footballers don't really contribute anything to society, well except the brawls and anti social behavior after football games.

    It seems you don't know what your talking about here.Please show some respect to those people who dedicate their time to make a difference to society.
    I know the point you're making, but you still haven't answered my question. Would you rather the club owners just kept the money for themselves? Even if you were to reduce footballer's wages, you haven't solved the problem; you've just moved it somewhere else. Instead of overpaid footballers, you've now got overpaid club shareholders (who in some cases do even less work than the footballers themselves).

    (And footballers do contribute to society - they provide entertainment. You might not value it, but everyone else does, which is why they're willing to pay so much for it. Not to mention contributing millions of pounds in taxes.

    It's not like the life of a footballer is heavenly either. Having to spend months away from home, not being allowed to eat the food you want but conforming to strict diets, having to train physically for hours a day from a very young age to stay fit enough to play, being hounded by the media and paparazzi, getting serious injuries very often and having to stay in hospital, and in many cases being jobless after the age of 40 doesn't sound great. If it weren't for good pay, many of them wouldn't do it. And then the quality of teams would decrease, football would lose popularity, and one of Britain's/the world's biggest industries would collapse.)
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    (Original post by berryboysh)
    We had this discussion in one of our college classes recently about overpaid footballers and many people had different views. My personal view is that they (footballers) get the joy of playing the game of football (which they'd play anyway regardless or not if they get payed) as well as being paid an absolute fortune, of a monthly salary of average £150,000 to £250,000 a week, £1,000,000 a month and £12,000,000 a year!! for kicking a damn ball around a pitch!!

    Many people go to work (and don't enjoy it) and work 8,10, and 12hr shifts on some really hard tough jobs and are getting weekly wages of about £250-£300 a week.

    I don't like football, I don't support no damn team but What is so interesting to watch about a group of grown men kicking a ball around a field and getting grossly overpaid?
    The way i see it is FA uefa etc and all tv channels that host football makes billions so why shouldn't the people that provide the entertainment get a a good percentage of this
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    (Original post by berryboysh)

    Many people go to work (and don't enjoy it) and work 8,10, and 12hr shifts on some really hard tough jobs and are getting weekly wages of about £250-£300 a week.
    Get signed as a professional football player then


    (Original post by berryboysh)

    I don't like football, I don't support no damn team but What is so interesting to watch about a group of grown men kicking a ball around a field and getting grossly overpaid?
    Sums up to be honest, you hate the game so hate anything to do with it, GTFO and go play Chess.
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    (Original post by tazarooni89)
    I know the point you're making, but you still haven't answered my question. Would you rather the club owners just kept the money for themselves? Even if you were to reduce footballer's wages, you haven't solved the problem; you've just moved it somewhere else. Instead of overpaid footballers, you've now got overpaid club shareholders (who in some cases do even less work than the footballers themselves).

    (And footballers do contribute to society - they provide entertainment. You might not value it, but everyone else does, which is why they're willing to pay so much for it.)


    The club owners wouldn't have as much money to themselves if the footballers were not being so grossly overpaid. I have been bad repped once to many now over a stupid football thread. enough said
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    (Original post by berryboysh)
    We had this discussion in one of our college classes recently about overpaid footballers and many people had different views. My personal view is that they (footballers) get the joy of playing the game of football (which they'd play anyway regardless or not if they get payed) as well as being paid an absolute fortune, of a monthly salary of average £150,000 to £250,000 a week, £1,000,000 a month and £12,000,000 a year!! for kicking a damn ball around a pitch!!

    Many people go to work (and don't enjoy it) and work 8,10, and 12hr shifts on some really hard tough jobs and are getting weekly wages of about £250-£300 a week.

    I don't like football, I don't support no damn team but What is so interesting to watch about a group of grown men kicking a ball around a field and getting grossly overpaid?
    They are paid what people are willing to pay them in a massive industry, an industry that has grown year on year.

    If someone offered you 'x' amount you wouldn't say "oh dear Lord no, please pay me less than you are offering".

    Moron.
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    (Original post by ShadowConspiracy)
    Get signed as a professional football player then




    Sums up to be honest, you hate the game so hate anything to do with it, GTFO and go play Chess.

    Chess is just as bad but what would you think if people were playing chess and making quarter a million a week. i don't like your tone you GTFO
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    (Original post by berryboysh)
    Chess is just as bad but what would you think if people were playing chess and making quarter a million a week. i don't like your tone you GTFO
    That wouldn't happen because no-one gives a fcuk about chess tbh
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    (Original post by berryboysh)
    The club owners wouldn't have as much money to themselves if the footballers were not being so grossly overpaid. I have been bad repped once to many now over a stupid football thread. enough said
    seriously what the bloody ****. firstly if players were not paid as much, club owners would OBVIOUSLY have more money 'to themselves'. lol 'to themselves'. secondly, well, i don't even know what secondly is. there's no way to remedy your gross, and frankly offensive, stupidity.
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    (Original post by gingerrama)
    That wouldn't happen because no-one gives a fcuk about chess tbh
    I know it wouldn't happen, I said I don't like chess but I was asking what he'd think if someone was to get paid a footballers wages for playing chess as an activity that he and I don't like.
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    (Original post by berryboysh)
    We had this discussion in one of our college classes recently about overpaid footballers and many people had different views. My personal view is that they (footballers) get the joy of playing the game of football (which they'd play anyway regardless or not if they get payed) as well as being paid an absolute fortune, of a monthly salary of average £150,000 to £250,000 a week, £1,000,000 a month and £12,000,000 a year!! for kicking a damn ball around a pitch!!

    Many people go to work (and don't enjoy it) and work 8,10, and 12hr shifts on some really hard tough jobs and are getting weekly wages of about £250-£300 a week.

    I don't like football, I don't support no damn team but What is so interesting to watch about a group of grown men kicking a ball around a field and getting grossly overpaid?
    You are a jealous individual. In what way does it affect you?
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    Football isn't just playing 90 minutes once a week, they train strenously everyday and lead a very strict lifestyle. It's not as easy as people make out, there are footballers out there who do it just for the money and don't actually get any pleasure from it.

    And I hope the signature of the dude above me is sarcasm.
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    (Original post by berryboysh)
    The club owners wouldn't have as much money to themselves if the footballers were not being so grossly overpaid.
    What do you mean?
    Suppose a club has made a final profit of £X at the end of a season (after non-wage expenses). What do you expect them to do with that money? Naturally, it's to go to the owners/shareholders, and to the staff (including players).

    The less you give to the staff, the more you're going to give to the shareholders. And it's usually quite a lot of money we're talking about.
    (Unless you're suggesting that we reduce the quality of the football industry, so clubs don't make as much profit in the first place. Good luck, economy.)
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    (Original post by berryboysh)
    We had this discussion in one of our college classes recently about overpaid footballers and many people had different views. My personal view is that they (footballers) get the joy of playing the game of football (which they'd play anyway regardless or not if they get payed) as well as being paid an absolute fortune, of a monthly salary of average £150,000 to £250,000 a week, £1,000,000 a month and £12,000,000 a year!! for kicking a damn ball around a pitch!!

    Many people go to work (and don't enjoy it) and work 8,10, and 12hr shifts on some really hard tough jobs and are getting weekly wages of about £250-£300 a week.

    I don't like football, I don't support no damn team but What is so interesting to watch about a group of grown men kicking a ball around a field and getting grossly overpaid?
    Footballers wages are paid for by private companies and investors. Who are you to tell them how to spend their money? They can pay them however much they want.

    Besides, football isn't just a game. Sponsorships, advertising deals, TV slots and all the trade that is brought to Britain from football games is astronomical. It is in the interest of Britain to have the best footballers because that means the best quality football is in Britain and so people come from all over the world to watch, pumping money into local business from passing trade. To get the best you have to pay them like they are the best. Simple
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    (Original post by Komakino)
    The argument against of course is that if people are willing to pay to watch/for merchandise/etc. then there's really no ethical argument against.
    I find it outrageous, but I think the ethical argument is hard to push given that no public funds are DIRECTLY involved.
    I think people that spend so much of their wages on football and merchandise are pretty duped, but it's their choice at the end of the day.

    A more pressing ethical concern is the amount of footballers and football agents, and even managers, chairman's, CEO's etc. that avoid paying the taxes they should. Various legal specialists actively seek clients for the purpose of saving them taxes by storing 'savings' in offshore accounts.
    So, this does affect the public as we would have millions if not billions more in public funds if these people paid the correct amount of taxes.
    An irony being that the people that pay the money week in week out which allows these people to earn so much money do by and large pay the correct taxes, and they are being hit with a double whammy.
    So, although the DIRECT argument does not really stand, the INDIRECT argument - that they are cheating the state out of taxes - does work.
    What a ridiculous generalisation. Some rich people do indeed evade paying taxes, most don't.
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    (Original post by berryboysh)
    We had this discussion in one of our college classes recently about overpaid footballers and many people had different views. My personal view is that they (footballers) get the joy of playing the game of football (which they'd play anyway regardless or not if they get payed) as well as being paid an absolute fortune, of a monthly salary of average £150,000 to £250,000 a week, £1,000,000 a month and £12,000,000 a year!! for kicking a damn ball around a pitch!!

    Many people go to work (and don't enjoy it) and work 8,10, and 12hr shifts on some really hard tough jobs and are getting weekly wages of about £250-£300 a week.

    I don't like football, I don't support no damn team but What is so interesting to watch about a group of grown men kicking a ball around a field and getting grossly overpaid?
    Life is unfair. Capitalism creates winners and losers. Deal with it.
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    (Original post by Kreuzuerk)
    seriously what the bloody ****. firstly if players were not paid as much, club owners would OBVIOUSLY have more money 'to themselves'. lol 'to themselves'. secondly, well, i don't even know what secondly is. there's no way to remedy your gross, and frankly offensive, stupidity.

    Frankly, this thread is aimed at football hooligans like yourself.
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    (Original post by berryboysh)
    Frankly, this thread is aimed at football hooligans like yourself.
    I thought it was aimed at some naive attempt to explain away the market forces of the economy, no? You're confusing yourself son.
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    It's not difficult to understand why their salaries are so high and your attacks towards football are comical. Though I do agree, it's incredible that people can be paid so much for something they'd do for fun anyway; now that's what you call a dream job.
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    [QUOTE=Kreuzuerk;30437059]I thought it was aimed at some naive attempt to explain away the market forces of the economy, no? You're confusing yourself son.


    I created this thread as I wanted to know why other people are so serious about football and what all the fuss and excitement is over a football. I am not wasting my time explaining ****all to you
 
 
 
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