This thread just goes around in circles and achieves nothing except anger and personal insults between opposing factions (exactly what is happening in the 'real' situation in Palestine/Israel.) There will never be a concensus of opinions because both sides have an empathy to their own cause i.e. gemgems and vienna are Jewish and see only their set of values as being correct and the opposite opinion is supported likewise.
Waste of time and energy as nothing contained here will sort the situation!
I have said before that persecution breeds persecution. From the beginning of time the Jews have been persecuted, but they, in turn, are now doing the persecuting to the Palestinians. The Palestinians will never be subjugated as the human persona will resist attempts to be denied freedoms to persue their own destiny. Result - stalemate and more bloodshed.
Can you not see the similarities with South Africa and Northern Ireland?
We must insist that inequalities are addressed and both nations have parity of esteem. Concessions and admonishments should be offered to both sides. If agreement is not reached then it must be enforced by the UN.
A start may be made here on this forum where constructive suggestions as to how to achieve a lasting peace may be made. Remember, we are all the same ultimately.
I empathise with both sides.
Is that okay?