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so i ask you to explain to me why Jews migrate into Israel daily.
Because Jews see Israel as a holy place to them. Israel has the Western Wall, Yad Vashem, holy synagogues and kosher outlets, along with other places of interest. It is also free from anti-semitism.
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Because Jews see Israel as a holy place to them. Israel has the Western Wall, Yad Vashem, holy synagogues and kosher outlets, along with other places of interest. It is also free from anti-semitism.
Free from anti-semitism?

Isn't anti-semitism the basis of much of the trouble that goes on in Israel?
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Free from anti-semitism?

Isn't anti-semitism the basis of much of the trouble that goes on in Israel?
In Israel you don't get anti-semitism. Not when you're in danger-free cities.
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In Israel you don't get anti-semitism. Not when you're in danger-free cities.
Yeah but you don't get anti-semitism in my house, so why don't all the Jews come to my house, eh? Why don't they come to all the houses with no anti-semitism in?

That doesn't make sense, lol.

But maybe in some cities where the anti-semitists should be kicked out, sealed in special barrels and buried along with the high-risk nuclear waste.
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Yeah but you don't get anti-semitism in my house, so why don't all the Jews come to my house, eh? Why don't they come to all the houses with no anti-semitism in?
Errr, right.

(Original post by thefish_uk)
That doesn't make sense, lol.
Correct.
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Errr, right.
Correct.
Lol well, I never make sense...
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Lol well, I never make sense...
Well, never say never.
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How long constitutes the present? J
that is the ultimate question. unfortunately there is no easy answer to it. the thing is, going to the past isnt any more helpful, since in history the land has been in the hands of both muslims and jews. depends how far back you want to go... remember judaism is an older religion than islam. then u might say, who was living on the land before that.. u know this debate will never end!
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that is the ultimate question. unfortunately there is no easy answer to it. the thing is, going to the past isnt any more helpful, since in history the land has been in the hands of both muslims and jews. depends how far back you want to go... remember judaism is an older religion than islam. then u might say, who was living on the land before that.. u know this debate will never end!
if it's a battle of religion age, what about the egyptians who inhabited the land before the jews? you do recall that ancient egypt stretched a damn sight larger than it does today - into israel for starters.
and we are talking well into the BC
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Because Jews see Israel as a holy place to them. Israel has the Western Wall, Yad Vashem, holy synagogues and kosher outlets, along with other places of interest. It is also free from anti-semitism.
and brixton is free from racists. but i dont think every black guy in britain is gonna want to move there
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Because Jews see Israel as a holy place to them. Israel has the Western Wall, Yad Vashem, holy synagogues and kosher outlets, along with other places of interest. It is also free from anti-semitism.
Golders Green fits that decription perfectly...
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Because Jews see Israel as a holy place to them.
You mean the Zionists see Israel as being holy to them. And you know thats really funny because they happen not to be in the least religious...
Many real Jews are actually opposed to Israel.

Check 'em out crayzies!
www.netureikarta.org - Jews opposed to Israel
www.netureikartauk.org - English Jews opposed to Israel
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You mean the Zionists see Israel as being holy to them. And you know thats really funny because they happen not to be in the least religious...
Many real Jews are actually opposed to Israel.

Check 'em out crayzies!
www.netureikarta.org - Jews opposed to Israel
www.netureikartauk.org - English Jews opposed to Israel
Firstly, most Jews are pro-Israel.
Secondly, I think you'll find those websites don't work.
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Firstly, most Jews are pro-Israel.
Secondly, I think you'll find those websites don't work.
Not really, if most Jews were so 'pro', surely you would see more immigration. I heard that Orthodox Jews were not as Pro as other (the name escapes me) Jews, does anyone know if this is true?
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Not really, if most Jews were so 'pro', surely you would see more immigration. I heard that Orthodox Jews were not as Pro as other (the name escapes me) Jews, does anyone know if this is true?
I am an orthodox Jew and very Pro-Israel but it doesn't mean I want to migrate. Many Jews want to and I do cos I love it there.
There are reasons why Jews don't migrate. But I think you'll find quite a few do.

People tend to be very happy in their homes and with their families. They have everything they want, why move? It often costs a lot to move to Israel due to economy, and I know many people who tried moving there but had to come back due to job purposes - not making enough money and having to pay much for living.
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Firstly, most Jews are pro-Israel.
Secondly, I think you'll find those websites don't work.
Youre the only Jew i know thats pro-israel, i have many jewish friends who couldnt give a sh*t about Israel...

my websites dont work? or have you not tried that, btw theyre

netureikartauk.org

netureikarta.org just copy and paste them into a search engine
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I am an orthodox Jew and very Pro-Israel but it doesn't mean I want to migrate. Many Jews want to and I do cos I love it there.
There are reasons why Jews don't migrate. But I think you'll find quite a few do.

People tend to be very happy in their homes and with their families. They have everything they want, why move? It often costs a lot to move to Israel due to economy, and I know many people who tried moving there but had to come back due to job purposes - not making enough money and having to pay much for living.
So what is the name of other types of Jews?
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Not really, if most Jews were so 'pro', surely you would see more immigration. I heard that Orthodox Jews were not as Pro as other (the name escapes me) Jews, does anyone know if this is true?
Do you mean Liberal Jews?

Hmm, I'm not sure which are more pro-Israel. But I know most Jews are pro-Israel, especially the more religious ones as they believe it's their homeland.
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So what is the name of other types of Jews?
Liberal or reform.
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Liberal or reform.
Ah yes, thanks.
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