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Yes, of genocide, he's a war criminal. Don't you like it? Too bad.
convicted of genocide by the Israelis?
Sharon was indicted, not the Israeli state.

And of course falklands are in U.K. territorial waters.
ahh, so thats the source of ur bitterness...


Cut if off.
erm, i was born that way.
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convicted of genocide by the Israelis?
Sharon was indicted, not the Israeli state.


And of course falklands are in U.K. territorial waters.
You are talking about Sharon offers... so yourself had proven to by wrong.

HAHAHAHAHAHA. Falklands are in UK territorial waters hahahahahah.
There are only at 34053495043 km from that little island of yours.
You still don't understand that there isn't any difference between a pirate and a privateer. I'm sorry for you.
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You are talking about Sharon offers... so yourself had proven to by wrong.
proven wrong about what? Mr.Sharons background has no bearing on the personal offer he makes now and those made by the Israeli state.

HAHAHAHAHAHA. Falklands are in UK territorial waters hahahahahah.
There are only at 34053495043 km from that little island of yours.
You still don't understand that there isn't any difference between a pirate and a privateer. I'm sorry for you.
i didnt comment, but it seems youve already gone nuts over a possible opinion. im lost as to its relevance...:confused:
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proven wrong about what? Mr.Sharons background has no bearing on the personal offer he makes now and those made by the Israeli state.
That's just untrue, a war criminal offer of peace? Who can believe that?
Only the kind of people like you.

It has relevance, you are pirates, you were and it seems that there are some people like you who still are pirates and see themselves as privateers.

Bad luck.
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(Original post by Eternal Idol)
That's just untrue, a war criminal offer of peace? Who can believe that?
Only the kind of people like you.
im willing to hope that Sharon, pressured by his own people, the International community and the US and the offers and commitments so far, in commiting himself to the road-map for peace, for offering a complete withdrawal to the provisional UN territorial lines is not playing a party trick, no.
im unwilling to believe that Arafat, after his statements, his support and control of terrorist groups, his contempt for prime ministers who condemn and try and end terrorism, his lack of commitment to the road-map for peace, his rejection of a number of Israeli offers that would mean the return of land to Palestinian control against the wishes of his people and his spending of EU money and UN aid on Hamas and terrorist activity, indeed wants peace.

It has relevance, you are pirates, you were and it seems that there are some people like you who still are pirates and see themselves as privateers.
Bad luck.
im still lost, are you going to make me walk the plank? :confused:
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im willing to hope that Sharon, pressured by his own people, the International community and the US and the offers and commitments so far, in commiting himself to the road-map for peace, for offering a complete withdrawal to the provisional UN territorial lines is not playing a party trick, no.
im unwilling to believe that Arafat, after his statements, his support and control of terrorist groups, his contempt for prime ministers who condemn and try and end terrorism, his lack of commitment to the road-map for peace, his rejection of a number of Israeli offers that would mean the return of land to Palestinian control against the wishes of his people and his spending of EU money and UN aid on Hamas and terrorist activity, indeed wants peace.



im still lost, are you going to make me walk the plank? :confused:
That's your problem, I have never mentioned Arafat to defend the palestinean cause. You mentioned Sharon, a proven war criminal.
It would be a good thing that Sharon & Arafat follow the road-map, the things would be better in Palestine.
But the Israel state doesn't have the righ to exists in this way. The land could be shared, even Jerusalem could be the capital for the both nations, but no in this way.

im still lost, are you going to make me walk the plank? << In response to that, NO, YOU are the pirates, not I.
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That's your problem, I have never mentioned Arafat to defend the palestinean cause.
no, thats YOUR problem. either you treat like with like or not at all. as i already said, i think people see this as a Palestinian people vs Israeli state argument, while turning a blind eye to the actions and attitudes of the Palestinian leadership. deal with it on a level of humanity and morals or deal with it on a level of politics. not a warped mix of the two.

You mentioned Sharon, a proven war criminal.
It would be a good thing that Sharon & Arafat follow the road-map, the things would be better in Palestine.
the US were committed, Israel were committed, what happened to the Palestinians?

But the Israel state doesn't have the righ to exists in this way. The land could be shared, even Jerusalem could be the capital for the both nations, but no in this way.
what way? Palestine gets all of its land as provisioned by the UN almost half a century ago and Israel establishes clear border controls between the 2 states. what dont you approve of?

im still lost, are you going to make me walk the plank? << In response to that, NO, YOU are the pirates, not I.
er, pirates made other pirates walk the plank..but anyway.
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Maybe they don't want your USA peace, maybe they want their land wich is fair. And I'll support the free palestine aswell I will support a FREE of invaders Ireland.

er, pirates made other pirates walk the plank..but anyway<<
Yes, the only pirate here is you.
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Maybe they don't want your USA peace, maybe they want their land wich is fair. And I'll support the free palestine aswell I will support a FREE of invaders Ireland.
ahh, so US involved peace agreements are more objectionable than continual conflict and the death of innocent civilians..now i understand, its all the US' fault...
anything else, ETA perhaps? im not too hot on terrorist organisations, but as a supporting activist im sure you can tell me.

er, pirates made other pirates walk the plank..but anyway<<
Yes, the only pirate here is you.
hehe, how so?
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ahh, so US involved peace agreements are more objectionable than continual conflict and the death of innocent civilians..now i understand, its all the US' fault...
anything else, ETA perhaps? im not too hot on terrorist organisations, but as a supporting activist im sure you can tell me.



hehe, how so?
No, indeed it's UK fault. The road-map would be good if palestine people want it, as I said before is logic that they want their land back and not just an agreement.
ETA? I'm not from Spain ... the ETA conflict is different in all ways.
I know that you don't ever mentioned Ireland, give that back please...

And yes, you are a pirate, because you are defending UK for stealing Falklands, Israel for stealing Palestine... UK has a really nice tradition of pirates, I hope that the surname Drake brings you some up to you...
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No, indeed it's UK fault. The road-map would be good if palestine people want it, as I said before is logic that they want their land back and not just an agreement.
the peace agreement and Israel's offer gives them their land back. the palestinian people wanted the roadmap to work.. are you denying that?

ETA? I'm not from Spain ... the ETA conflict is different in all ways.
I know that you don't ever mentioned Ireland, give that back please...
your support of terrorism knows no boundaries, why one here?
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the peace agreement and Israel's offer gives them their land back. the palestinian people wanted the roadmap to work.. are you denying that?


your support of terrorism knows no boundaries, why one here?
The peace agreement is just a peace of paper. They want their land now, not sometime in the next century. I haven't made a survey so I can't be 100000% sure. I guess that your arrogance makes you believe that you can.

I don't support terrorism, I don't give them money or anything.
But I understand some of them, I just understand why they do what the do.

UK has plenty of terrorism acts done in the past, you could give back Northern Ireland and the Falklands for example.
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The peace agreement is just a peace of paper. They want their land now, not sometime in the next century. I haven't made a survey so I can't be 100000% sure. I guess that your arrogance makes you believe that you can.
pieces of paper and the word of one state to another is generally how peace is achieved in the civilised world. the only thing my arrogance convinces me of is yor ignorance of both the roadmap to peace and Israel's latest unilateral offer.

I don't support terrorism,
oh? i thought you supported their actions..
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Whatever Israels reasons this isnt acceptable:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3436561.stm
perhaps you missed this,

"The raid followed an alert about a possible attack on the nearby Netzarim settlement, the Israeli military said.

A spokesman said soldiers were met by Palestinian anti-tank missiles, mortar fire and other explosive devices.


The bloody message has been received

Islamic Jihad leader
Mohammed Al-Hindi

The troops later withdrew after the dawn raid, reports said.

The militant Islamic Jihad group said at least five of its fighters were among the dead. It said it would avenge the incursion. "

threat received, intelligence gathered, terrorists taken out, withdrawal.

sounds like a very tight military move to me. i dont know what you expect. what is unacceptable about this operation?
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pieces of paper and the word of one state to another is generally how peace is achieved in the civilised world. the only thing my arrogance convinces me of is yor ignorance of both the roadmap to peace and Israel's latest unilateral offer.



oh? i thought you supported their actions..
You are the only one who believes in Israel's unilaterals offers...

I support some actions yes, because I'm always with the opressed one, I know my side, I'm not with the son of the ***** that has the power.

Do you know your side? Do you know where are you?
Do you know that you are in the side of the crap of this world?

You support the actions done by UK ...
Do you want me to enumerate everything that UK did?
This forum isn't big enough.
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You are the only one who believes in Israel's unilaterals offers...
oh right. :rolleyes:

I support some actions yes, because I'm always with the opressed one, I know my side, I'm not with the son of the ***** that has the power.
*yawn* some more militant socialist banter?

Do you know your side? Do you know where are you?
Do you know that you are in the side of the crap of this world?


You support the actions done by UK ...
Do you want me to enumerate everything that UK did?
This forum isn't big enough.
what is your problem with the UK? instead of attacking the British through the backdoor, why not start a thread? wait, ill even do it for you.
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oh right. :rolleyes:



*yawn* some more militant socialist banter?



what is your problem with the UK? instead of attacking the British through the backdoor, why not start a thread? wait, ill even do it for you.
I'm not a militant of anything, I already told you. But I have principles, and you are with the crap, with the sons of the ***** that opress the people.

Do it, open a thread, I don't have any problem with UK except his policies, indeed I'm participating in a british forum.
But if you talk about terrorism and only see the ones that aren't defended by yourself I must point it.
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I'm not a militant of anything, I already told you. But I have principles, and you are with the crap, with the sons of the ***** that opress the people.
and who 'are the crap' and the 'sons of the *****'? nice to see youve deviated entirely away from the specific problems of Israeli proposals onto some abstract reiteration of your assumed communist ideas of morality.

Do it, open a thread, I don't have any problem with UK except his policies, indeed I'm participating in a british forum.
But if you talk about terrorism and only see the ones that aren't defended by yourself I must point it.
i see the political problems as they are, from both political sides and with the political means to end them. if you want a humanitarian debate then by all means, but dont talk about UK policies, the US and Israel in such terms.
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and who 'are the crap' and the 'sons of the *****'? nice to see youve deviated entirely away from the specific problems of Israeli proposals onto some abstract reiteration of your assumed communist ideas of morality.



i see the political problems as they are, from both political sides and with the political means to end them. if you want a humanitarian debate then by all means, but dont talk about UK policies, the US and Israel in such terms.
Communist? Hahaha. Are you still afraid of YOUR enemy?
I don't have enemies...

The crap and sons of the ***** of this world are the ones that have the power to opresse the people and uses it. That people doesn't even deserve to live.

You don't see nothing, you are a blind right wing that only sees everything from that point, you can't be such a lier...
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Communist? Hahaha. Are you still afraid of YOUR enemy?
I don't have enemies...

The crap and sons of the ***** of this world are the ones that have the power to opresse the people and uses it. That people doesn't even deserve to live.

You don't see nothing, you are a blind right wing that only sees everything from that point, you can't be such a lier...
and there we have it, 0% argument 100% personal waffle and raving.
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