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    (Original post by Made in the USA)
    That's a really wrongheaded way of looking at things because the US is arguably the most culturally diverse country in the world. Michigan and Mississippi are as different culturally as Scotland and Spain. Averages don't really tell you a whole lot. If you have 10 people, one of whom makes a million dollars and the other 9 make a dollar, then the average is still nice at around 100K, but you have nine people who are eating dirt and starving to death.

    San Francisco could very well be more liberal than any part of Europe. If you aren't a homosexual, athiest, socialist or communist (or all four), you are a going to feel like a complete pariah in that city.

    Another place that is similar to San Francisco is Autin, Texas, right smack in the middle of the state.

    Take a look at this link and I'm sure every idiotic stereotype you ahve of texas will be challenged: http://www.keepaustinweird.com/current.html
    You can't cite anecdotal evidence though to support your claim. Whilst obviously there are massively irreligious areas in the USA, that doesn't change the fact that religious observance is higher in nearly all US states when compared with Western European states.

    Obviously the North Eastern states are going to be less religious than Portugal and Italy, but for the most part it is a safe generalization to say that the average American is statistically more likely to be religious than the average Western European, and religion permeates more aspects of public and private life in the USA than it does in Western Europe (and a lot of Eastern Europe for that matter).

    Nobody is saying that that's an inherently bad or good thing, but it is more or less undeniable.
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    (Original post by Made in the USA)
    Which part? California is an enormously culturally diverse state. You can't get any less religious or liberal than San Francisco.
    Sorry, got to beg to differ. I'll admit to never having been there but from what you've said I've doubt you've spent a decent amount of time in London. I seriously think you're ignorant. I've lived in London all my life and never been to a place that rivals it.

    I also love how you say if you aren't a socialist or communist in SF that you'll stick out like a sore thumb, as if being one of those things is a big deal. It really isn't, in fact you just go to prove that the US is slightly backwards since there are several beneficial aspects of socialism worth considering. I'm by no way saying its perfect but it's not completely bad either. The majority of people in Europe would probably agree too.
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    (Original post by Made in the USA)
    Yes, they have no first amendment, that's why they arrested those kids on youtube who burned the Koran, something perfectly legal in this country.

    Regarding my atheism, I'm a different type of athiest than dip****s like Bill Maher. If someone wants to practice their religion, I will never try to convince them that they are wrong for wanting to do so. As long as no one bothers me, I say live and let live. I find atheists who try to impose their atheism on everyone to be as bad or worse as people who try to prosthelytize to everyone
    This, this, a million times this. As an atheist, I cringe when evangelical atheists try to convert religious people. I feel like punching them in the ****.
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    Why do people think Europeans aren't religious? France, Italy, Germany, Holland all have very strong religious roots and religious communities.

    I think Americans appear more religious because they are far more vocal in their beliefs and their styles of religion appear more accepting than in Britain. In Britain liberal Christianity is very different to American liberal Christianity, and it's far easier to be religious there.

    I also think some British people are religious in that they believe a God to exist, but don't want to vocalize it - religion has been mocked in the media and stereotyped to a massive extent, many people hide their religion here compared to America. In America one can find out about religion easily and there is no shame in proclaiming ones religiousness, in the UK, especially in the 13-18 age range, it is very difficult and people are often actively discouraged.

    Asking people whether they are religious and the importance of religion in their day to day lives is very misleading, it says little about inherent religious belief, lots about how people want to portray themselves and about the social significance of religion.
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    I love how here we have a normal thread about the USA and half the posts are "americans are all stupid lolololol, we are so much better than them"
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    (Original post by Native British Guy)
    Your waffling.

    I was not speaking about cultural differences I was speaking about rates of beliefs in your census surveys.
    There are some areas that are deeply religious that skew the statistics. There are also huge areas where people are not religious. Looking at a huge country that covers 3 time zones and making a comment about average rates of belief really means nothing.
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    Because we're smarter.
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    (Original post by Made in the USA)
    More tolerant? Europeans don't seem to be very tolerant of other people's differences, especially if they are American. Most people here seem to think they are culturally superior somehow.
    Superior to what, American Culture? Why would we think we are superior to our own culture? In any case, what does culture have to do with the topic at hand?
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    (Original post by Made in the USA)
    More tolerant? Europeans don't seem to be very tolerant of other people's differences, especially if they are American. Most people here seem to think they are culturally completely superior somehow.
    Too true.
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    In conjunction of religion, you might find it interesting to know ISLAM is AMERICA'S FASTEST growing religion.

    Yeah, America is more religious, i can tell

    Not talking about the opressive government though lol, the actual people, again , not everyone
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    One reason could be because they are deeply patriotic. And they tie this patriotism with God, seeing it as 'One Nation Under God' and that 'God Shed His Grace on America'. So basically, patriotism and Christianity go hand in hand in the states, and most don't have one without the other. As for the patriotism; that probably comes from their Constitution, and their emphasis on liberty and democracy.
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    It's weird that you say that. I actually found that Britain has way more young religious people than Greece, and I always wondered why
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    (Original post by harmonize)
    Why do people think Europeans aren't religious? France, Italy, Germany, Holland all have very strong religious roots and religious communities.
    The Netherlands is one of the most irreligious countries in the world.
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    Just thought of another reason why. In Europe, most countries have a strong welfare state, which acts as a safety net. But in America, they don't have this. Instead it is a dog-eat-dog world with so much economic uncertainty. And due to the uncertainty, I think they turn towards religion to give them confidence and hope.
 
 
 
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