London Metropolitan University???.. Can i have your views please Watch

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i am worried to read all the negative views posted on this site about the London Metropolitan University.. i have applied to study MA Management at the University from Feb 2006. I need to know more about the university before i begin with the course.

please give me all your views and opinions about the university, including future job prospects

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Well apparently it isn't a great university. I'm applying but basically as a last resort because I have other circumstances which basically mean I'd want a university in the East London part of the world. I suppose it depends what subject you do when it comes down to future job prospects, if you work hard at university, I believe you will always a job, maybe not the same job as an Oxford graduate, but you aren't going to Oxford. I've never visited London Met (hard from Finland) but I've been around the surrounding areas millions of times and I don't think it's too bad an area. (Warning though, I grew up in not the nicest part of east London, so everywhere may look nice to me)
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a rather old thread!

Are people down on the London Met because it's a University for people who don't have great qualifications or is it because the teaching and courses are bad?

quick bio - left school at 15 - have now got 5 O' levels but years of work experience in Digital Media - I've been offered a yes for a degree but they think I'd be better doing a masters.

I've applied to other Uni's too but is the Met that bad? I've just look at a league table and it's in the fourth division - I'm not even sure what that means but I'm guessing the bottom.

the other Uni's I've applied to are all in the fourth division!
does anyone know where I can find more info and not just forum threads where people just say 'crap'.. more constructive info would be better!
I want to study Digital Media - with a design leaning.
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Personally I'd stay well away...
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Personally I'd stay well away...
That doesn't really tell me much - why?

This is all I get.. people saying one or two words.. I need more constructive information.

I've heard that it depends on the course - the Arts & Design courses are suppose to be really good - how do I find this out - I've tried a google search and I keep finding forums where people just 'good' or 'bad' - no actual facts or feelings in detail!

'Are people down on the London Met because it's a University for people who don't have great qualifications or is it because the teaching and courses are bad?'

As all my choices seem to be in the fourth Division then does it matter which one I choose then - are they all 'bad' - I can't avoid them all! (well, ok I could but I don't want too).
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One person told me it was great for parties and going out, although they eventually dropped out. I know someone else who dropped out too, I think he just didn't like the course. And finally another girl who dropped out, she said everyone went mad because they were in London and they were drinking mad. I think they were doing the arts courses. I would recommend visiting the campus and getting a feel for the place. To be honest, London universities are not supposed to be the best for socialising. Visit as many unis you can and really do your research, so many people make mistakes and choices without even visiting or knowing much about the uni.
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Well the one hard fact I can give you is that they have refused to participate in many of the previous Times Good University Guide Rankings. In fact they haven't allowed themselves to be ranked for the past 3 years, I don't know before then.

Its up to you what you surmise from that! Personally the way I would look at it is that if London Met suits you then go there. University is what you make of it! Not so relevant to the potential Masters chap with oodles of experience but to a young' un with little experience, maximise your experience! If you leave with just a degree and thats it, well I don't fancy your chances; however if you leave having done Officer Training Corps, had positions in the SU, got relevant work experience etc. then should make up in some part any deficiencies in the reputation of the university you go to! To use a cliché, an employer hires you, the individual, not the University.
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Well the one hard fact I can give you is that they have refused to participate in many of the previous Times Good University Guide Rankings. In fact they haven't allowed themselves to be ranked for the past 3 years, I don't know before then.

Its up to you what you surmise from that! Personally the way I would look at it is that if London Met suits you then go there. University is what you make of it! Not so relevant to the potential Masters chap with oodles of experience but to a young' un with little experience, maximise your experience! If you leave with just a degree and thats it, well I don't fancy your chances; however if you leave having done Officer Training Corps, had positions in the SU, got relevant work experience etc. then should make up in some part any deficiencies in the reputation of the university you go to! To use a cliché, an employer hires you, the individual, not the University.
Thanks - I've worked 22 years so studying is not so much about finding work - obviously I'll have better options and I'll paid a better rate than I do now.
It's more about experience (not just boozing as I've 'done' that and it's london so I'm not too fussed about the social side as organised by the Uni - can organise that myself).
also, to explore areas that I'm interested in.

I think I'll be saying no to the Masters though as I feel that I'll work on one subject and plop out the other end and look for another job! Feels too quick!

Yes, the fact that the London Met doesn't allow itself to be ranked seems rather dodgy!
It would mean that I could live in North London - I've been in South London for five years and now hate the area!! but not a good reason to choose a Uni.

I'll see what other offers I get - I think I prefer the London South Bank or the London College of Arts.

Thanks for your response.
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Deffo the best university ever :yep:
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ok so this thread has been up since 2005, then some more comments from 2008 and now it's 2014, so wow, almost 10 years have passed!

i started at the met september 2013 doing a foundation year in sciences and will be progressing onto an accredited Bio-Med course next year and i love it here. you can imagine that it has changed a fair amount over 10 years - i couldnt speak for what it used to be like. i know it had problems in the past. as people have mentioned before (and will continue to in every "is this uni any good?" debate) it depends on the course.

i wouldn't want to be doing a history or creative writing degree at the met because that's the kind of thing i'd want to be taught at a uni with a certain amount of prestige by a lecturer with a bibliography under their belt. however, as has already been said, the arts and design courses have a very good reputation. in my case, it's also a good place to study sciences. they have a huge new lab which means getting lab time is easy (a common problem for science students at uni), the teachers are really good at explaining things - actually better than at other places because of the variety of students they have to cater for - and are energetic, making the subjects easy to learn (a few exceptions aside, my nutrition teacher could sometimes do with an extra cup of coffee!)

the met gets a lot of flack because they have low entry requirements. personally i think they actually work harder to get the most out their students than a prestigious university who simply relies on the fact that they are competitive. falling behind? well suck it up mate, we've got 1000 kids queuing up round the corner wanting your place sooo... the met actually puts on a lot of extra support for people which i think is great, especially for the people that they are catering for (a lot of international students, students returning to education like myself)

there are a few drawbacks, but there are at any uni. i would say some people really care a lot about prestige. at the met, you are not going to get to study in some elizabethan chapel, neither are you going to be taught by celebrities. pedigree aside, i might say is that yeah, it's true that if you don't do so well and come out of the met with a 2.2 or a 3rd then your degree isn't worth much, however, if you do very well and get a 1st, it may be considered particularly good to have done so well at what is still considered a "troubled" uni (reputations take a long time to change). of course, everyone should be aiming for the best they can! the teaching is good and when friends of mine visit me here who have gone to other uni's (queen mary's, south bank, UWE) they say it seems good to them. apparently the student bar is good by other standards (i can't really compare). you know, a swimming pool and a boxing ring in the gym would be nice too, but what you gonna do, hey?

the only other thing i would say i find the most disadvantaging is that because the met takes a huge range of people, it is easy to get annoyed by people who don't take their work as seriously as you. there are some kids who are just trying to pass the next module and would rather hang around in the bar and play pool and fifa. this may well be the case at most universities though. however, it might add to the "bad reputation". some people don't seem to care too much. of course, these are the ones who eventually drop out or fail. personally, however, i find it snobbish to act as if it means the university is a bad university just because they have open doors!

one final thing is that even people at the met form their opinions about it from what people say about it. it's a shame because it's so ill informed to speak before having experienced other unis. i spoke to someone at the met who used to go to kings but moved to the met because they said kings didn't care about them at all. a lot of people on the foundations year i'm doing want to get their 70% mark (something of a threshold for being accepted at other unis) and then go somewhere else, but i can't help but think that unless they are very lucky, it won't be any better than where they are now, per se. i am staying at the met because i have settled in here and it gives me everything i need. i would also add that i am averaging a 90% score at the moment so something is going right for sure. the met is not perfect, but i would recommend it.

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ok so this thread has been up since 2005, then some more comments from 2008 and now it's 2014, so wow, almost 10 years have passed!

i started at the met september 2013 doing a foundation year in sciences and will be progressing onto an accredited Bio-Med course next year and i love it here. you can imagine that it has changed a fair amount over 10 years - i couldnt speak for what it used to be like. i know it had problems in the past. as people have mentioned before (and will continue to in every "is this uni any good?" debate) it depends on the course.

i wouldn't want to be doing a history or creative writing degree at the met because that's the kind of thing i'd want to be taught at a uni with a certain amount of prestige by a lecturer with a bibliography under their belt. however, as has already been said, the arts and design courses have a very good reputation. in my case, it's also a good place to study sciences. they have a huge new lab which means getting lab time is easy (a common problem for science students at uni), the teachers are really good at explaining things - actually better than at other places because of the variety of students they have to cater for - and are energetic, making the subjects easy to learn (a few exceptions aside, my nutrition teacher could sometimes do with an extra cup of coffee!)

the met gets a lot of flack because they have low entry requirements. personally i think they actually work harder to get the most out their students than a prestigious university who simply relies on the fact that they are competitive. falling behind? well suck it up mate, we've got 1000 kids queuing up round the corner wanting your place sooo... the met actually puts on a lot of extra support for people which i think is great, especially for the people that they are catering for (a lot of international students, students returning to education like myself)

there are a few drawbacks, but there are at any uni. i would say some people really care a lot about prestige. at the met, you are not going to get to study in some elizabethan chapel, neither are you going to be taught by celebrities. pedigree aside, i might say is that yeah, it's true that if you don't do so well and come out of the met with a 2.2 or a 3rd then your degree isn't worth much, however, if you do very well and get a 1st, it may be considered particularly good to have done so well at what is still considered a "troubled" uni (reputations take a long time to change). of course, everyone should be aiming for the best they can! the teaching is good and when friends of mine visit me here who have gone to other uni's (queen mary's, south bank, UWE) they say it seems good to them. apparently the student bar is good by other standards (i can't really compare). you know, a swimming pool and a boxing ring in the gym would be nice too, but what you gonna do, hey?

the only other thing i would say i find the most disadvantaging is that because the met takes a huge range of people, it is easy to get annoyed by people who don't take their work as seriously as you. there are some kids who are just trying to pass the next module and would rather hang around in the bar and play pool and fifa. this may well be the case at most universities though. however, it might add to the "bad reputation". some people don't seem to care too much. of course, these are the ones who eventually drop out or fail. personally, however, i find it snobbish to act as if it means the university is a bad university just because they have open doors!

one final thing is that even people at the met form their opinions about it from what people say about it. it's a shame because it's so ill informed to speak before having experienced other unis. i spoke to someone at the met who used to go to kings but moved to the met because they said kings didn't care about them at all. a lot of people on the foundations year i'm doing want to get their 70% mark (something of a threshold for being accepted at other unis) and then go somewhere else, but i can't help but think that unless they are very lucky, it won't be any better than where they are now, per se. i am staying at the met because i have settled in here and it gives me everything i need. i would also add that i am averaging a 90% score at the moment so something is going right for sure. the met is not perfect, but i would recommend it.

Oh wow... Interesting. What course are you studying if you don't mind me asking?
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from original post - "i started at the met september 2013 doing a foundation year in sciences and will be progressing onto an accredited Bio-Med course next year"

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from original post - "i started at the met september 2013 doing a foundation year in sciences and will be progressing onto an accredited Bio-Med course next year"

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Oh my bad sorry! Do you know how the dietetics and nutrition department is by any chance?
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London Met is bottom of the bottom
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London Met is bottom of the bottom
"London Met is bottom of the bottom "

Wow,this is an interesting contribution, thanks ................................ ....
What about the departments whose rankings are quite good (architecture,food industry,laws, IR)despite the university average low ranking ?????
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I got A*A*A*A in Maths, History, Geography and English Literature A Levels and 12A*'s at GCSE. After taking some time off school and academia, I'm applying to university to study History. Obviously universities such as Oxford, Durham and UCL have sprung to mind first, however I'm also tempted to apply to London Met and another non Russel Group university, as by going to a lower ranked university, I will be more likely to be the best amongst my cohort and therefore will be more likely to achieve a first. I am a little bit worried about London Met though, I've heard that their entry requirements are really high and have been told that I shouldn't bother applying as I will likely be immediately rejected. Do you think it's worthwhile giving them a whirl?
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^I think their entry requirements are extremely low.
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^I think their entry requirements are extremely low.
I think that person is trolling
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Ive just completed a degree at London Met and I can tell you that you are wasting your time. The staff have been cut down by half, most of them are extremely good but overworked to the point where they can't do their jobs properly. I've personally seen 23/30 students fail a whole module due to a clueless lecturer and she still walks the halls and teaches today because guess what? The university couldn't care less about your grades, only your money. The biggest problem with the university is the administration. They make big decisions without any sympathy for its impact on the students, from reduced library hours, to 1-week examination periods whereby 3-4 exams are written in one week to last minute classroom changes. And as for the entry requirements: They DO matter. Why? Because most of your classmates will be the lowest of the low, the kind of student that couldn't care less about being at university. You'll do group work with students who don't care. Yes, they won't show up to group meetings and if they do, they wont do anything. If you complain, nothing will happen. Your lectures will be unfulfilling due to students asking stupid questions, talking loudly in the back of the class and coming in late whilst talking on the phone. The standard of most of the students at the university is the kind of person that does not want to work, rather have their hand held because it is owed to them. IF it wasn't for the hard working few, the university wouldn't exist. You will be doing yourself a disservice if you choose to study at London Metropolitan University, because they really are THAT bad and I PROMISE if you do choose to study there, you'll regret it.
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I do not agree.
London Met entry standards are generally low (not in architecture or law!),but they allows motivated students to go to University and succeeed
You may have low marks at.high school because of illness or other mitigating circumstances
I know the case.of one student who finished high school whereas his mother tongue was different from the school official language, lowering his final marks
The bad student will not succeed the 1st year,this explain the high drop out rate and you will only be with good.students on your 2nd year
Administration might be better but the staff is generally excellent and motivated
Food science, law,international relations, architecture,creative writing and English are quite good
Try to get a degree with a 1st or a 2:1and the sky will be your limit.
You must be aware that snobish trolls will criticize you for you choice.
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