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    (Original post by TexasHold'emMan)
    And I didn't say anything wrong. Go to mainland China to find out the entry requirement of Peking University and Tsing Hua Uiversity (the ratio to get in this two unis in an average province of china is 80 out of 130,000) you will find it a piece of cake to get admitted to Oxbridge as undergraduate.

    But on the other hand a prestigious uni should not be famous for the difficulty to get in but the challenge to get out.
    I live in Beijing, and go to Beijing Normal University, so when I talk about the Chinese education system and China in general, I do believe I know what I'm talking about. Thank you very much. I explained everything in the PM already, so won't explain it again.
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    (Original post by FinLuv)
    Mukmbai's a pretty relaxed city. I'm a girl n i go with my girl friends all the time to even like the shadiest places u can imagine, no guys escorting or watevr. But I would say india's most relaxed city when it comes to these things is Calcutta. It's also pretty safe compared to both mumbai and delhi. And people smoke pot everywhere in that city or they're always on a smoke break. Life's pretty Bohemian out there and i enjoy it once in a while. students form the country like heading cuz of the lax drug laws.

    About Mumbai, its pretty safe u knw. Just don't get screwed by the shop people cuz once they knw ur a foreigner they will mooch you! About the food, its brilliant but i would suggest to go to the nicer restros and also it won't hurt your pocket cuz in dollar terms its super cheap!

    India's prettiest city is by far Delhi, the infrastructure is awesome. Most foreigners are amazed with the metro (subway) cuz its so efficient and super clean. The only downside is that its not safe ofr women, at all. their men are leches of the first degree and personally they disgust me. Mumbai and Calcutta are way friendlier and safer on those terms.
    I've seen youtube clips of women only trains in metropolitan cities in India, where the women slap the men if they enter the carriages.
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    china! chinese food :sexface::love:
    But, I've never been to either actually. :sad:
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    Chinese normal university is a not an amazing university (why would you even go there to study chinese unless you were doing hte princeton in beijing program???)....honestly Bei Shida its not even considered part of the mingpai universities or top 11. WHoever said Oxford is easy to get into is a moron but lets get this straight about Chinese higher education. The only way of applying to a school is one exam...the gao kao, that exam decides your entire academic future. And its not even an even exam, depending on where you live, the score level changes for a top university. The only difference is that RECENTLY the top 6-7 schools have decided to create special exams for exceptional students which includes an interview similar to the Oxford interview, the kids are guaranteed to get into one of the schools based on that but usually A-Ban students in provinces are the ones that are able to put down they want to try for those top schools even thogh everyone takes the same gaokao if you are C-Ban or D-Ban they will not let you say you want to check peking university or tsinghua. Grad school is the same, doesn't matter what grades you have, if you past the test you are in. The chinese higher education is purely on wrote. That is why the top schools are changing it around to try to mimic the american system, they want creative students because they want China to become a hub of study in Asia. As in People flock to America, UK, Canada, Australia..........AND CHINA for their degrees. PS no one who has not lived in a place for no less than 3 years should ever say they are an expert on the place.
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    (Original post by *mMmMm*)
    I've seen youtube clips of women only trains in metropolitan cities in India, where the women slap the men if they enter the carriages.
    lol, oh yeah well there are special carriages in the trains for women and the ones u saw on the train are our equivalent of chavs although not so much on the bling n for the love of god i'm talking about girls belonging to the upper classes here (class structure is pretty rigid here), they're all sophisticated and the clubbing scene is a must and miniskirts and short shorts are something that we wear on a regular basis for partying and going out in general. We drink, we smoke, we gun for top jobs. people really need to stop looking at random youtube clips of the not-so-urban populace and come to the conclusion that we're all like that.
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    India does have some amazing clubs.
    Prive in mumbai, Tabularasa and F Bar in Delhi.

    The person above me has portrayed India perfectly. Youtube can be vague at times but boy do I resort to it ever so often
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    That's like asking 'aids or cancer'?
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    (Original post by cookiedough101)
    India does have some amazing clubs.
    Prive in mumbai, Tabularasa and F Bar in Delhi.

    The person above me has portrayed India perfectly. Youtube can be vague at times but boy do I resort to it ever so often
    lol, i've had to answer some pretty weird questions from time to time. Most of the time its cuz foreigners tend to bracket us into one typical stereotype: we're all little brown skinned people, dark hair, dark eyes and we're all rather conservative. People from Northern india really take offense at that cuz a lot of them are no where near brown per say. I'm from the North and a lot of foreigners i've met think I'm European (I'm white, with reddish brown hair and green eyes and these features are fairly common among my community which is referred to as the Bengali Brahmin Community and a lot of the Kashmiri pandits and Punjabis look just like us). And like I said people from the upper classes are extremely liberal (in fact marijuana smoking isn't exactly seen as that big a deal by many people and the drinking laws are pretty lax, even if we hav the same age appropriateness as the US (21), no one really bothers enforcing them, its like we say,"the young will be young". So yeah we're all different in many ways, India has several cultures within one country, so there's really no exact definition of an 'indian culture' and we're all vastly different (from looks to food to almost all aspects of life. Some communities are extremely liberal (i'm glad i belong to one of those ^^) and some are very conservative but most will be somewhere in between.

    We value education a lot. Especially true among the people I'm a part of. I'm 20 and applying for a finance masters already and I come from a long line of lawyers and professors (both male and female).
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    (Original post by PKU_Research007)
    Chinese normal university is a not an amazing university (why would you even go there to study chinese unless you were doing hte princeton in beijing program???)....honestly Bei Shida its not even considered part of the mingpai universities or top 11. WHoever said Oxford is easy to get into is a moron but lets get this straight about Chinese higher education. The only way of applying to a school is one exam...the gao kao, that exam decides your entire academic future. And its not even an even exam, depending on where you live, the score level changes for a top university. The only difference is that RECENTLY the top 6-7 schools have decided to create special exams for exceptional students which includes an interview similar to the Oxford interview, the kids are guaranteed to get into one of the schools based on that but usually A-Ban students in provinces are the ones that are able to put down they want to try for those top schools even thogh everyone takes the same gaokao if you are C-Ban or D-Ban they will not let you say you want to check peking university or tsinghua. Grad school is the same, doesn't matter what grades you have, if you past the test you are in. The chinese higher education is purely on wrote. That is why the top schools are changing it around to try to mimic the american system, they want creative students because they want China to become a hub of study in Asia. As in People flock to America, UK, Canada, Australia..........AND CHINA for their degrees. PS no one who has not lived in a place for no less than 3 years should ever say they are an expert on the place.
    I didn't really have a choice. I'm here on an exchange program. Had I had a choice, I'd probably be speaking like this: renjia yao qu xuexiao le la!

    It might not be an amazing Uni compared to Beida or Qinghua, but it's still pretty good. I think language-learning wise it beats Beiyu. My French friends at Beiyu have time to party two to three times a week. Beida as well, the foreigners are given so much free time, and being next to Wudaokou is not exactly the best thing that can happen for someone who wants to learn Chinese (in my humble opinion of course. x)) So language-learning wise I don't think it's ****, though the administration is ****.

    The Chinese education system will probably get better with time, but it's still pretty bad for now. However, them trying to create creative students is probably also going to bring problems. Creativity requires freedom, and freedom in China is questionable.

    When it comes to people being expert on areas etc. I disagree, someone who has lived 3 years in a diplomatic bubble is definitely not an expert on the area. On the other hand, someone who has spent a couple months spending all their time with locals is probably more an expert on the region than others who have spent 3 years in the area.
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    (Original post by Le Récamier)
    I didn't really have a choice. I'm here on an exchange program. Had I had a choice, I'd probably be speaking like this: renjia yao qu xuexiao le la!

    It might not be an amazing Uni compared to Beida or Qinghua, but it's still pretty good. I think language-learning wise it beats Beiyu. My French friends at Beiyu have time to party two to three times a week. Beida as well, the foreigners are given so much free time, and being next to Wudaokou is not exactly the best thing that can happen for someone who wants to learn Chinese (in my humble opinion of course. x)) So language-learning wise I don't think it's ****, though the administration is ****.=
    French having time to party won't give you any information about work load .
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    (Original post by *mMmMm*)
    Thanks for your interersting opinions Shed some new light to me.

    Someone spoke to me at uni who frequently goes to India and he's Indian, my age. He said that girls in Indian clubs who dress revealing or go drinking and smoking get beat up a lot by groups of men, how there's lots of groups who do that to go seek these sort of womwn, who feel that the women are shameful in society and not conforming to religious or cultural norms. I was kinda shocked
    that only happened once, in Bangalore and public outrage took care of it. Its not like its a daily occurrence, it happened once and it was taken care of and like i said different places in India have different tolerance levels and are liberal to a particular degree. there are cities like Mumbai and Calcutta which are very liberal and then places like Bangalore and Delhi where ppl might not be so open and liberal. all depends on where u land up.
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    (Original post by mau5)
    That's like asking 'aids or cancer'?
    hey where did u get that url freak!!!!
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    (Original post by mathmetician)
    hey where did u get that url freak!!!!

    Just wanted TSR to troll you.
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    IIT Mumbai is an extremely well known university.I've never heard the Chinese university you are talking about!!
    As far as the standard of living goes,it totally depends on you.Some of the richest people in the world live in Mumbai.If you ready to throw money then you will find everything there.My suggestion - take a place in 'Hiranandani'.........15 mins from IIT Mumbai and the kind of western sort of place you probably want!!!!

    PS:If you decide to go to India,try experiencing it someday!It will change you life.......
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    Shanghai!
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    I studied in China and I am a British Indian and I can honestly say I love China and Shanghai is amazing, I would go back in an instant. What course will you study as I can suggest some good universities. India is also great but I have never studied there so I can't comment.
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    I couldn't imagine studying at a university in a country which has limits of basic freedom of speech, freedom of association, bans books, puts limits on what you can access on the internet etc etc.

    I've been to both, and love Mumbai, but don't like Shanghai. I think Mumbai is much much more vibrant and fun.
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    you are talking as if you got a seat in IIT. Did you really? cuz you need to have balls for that.

    But personally, I'd say go to any top 5 university of china. Indian universities have 0 research work and ppl are only interested in money here. They just want a job. They don't want to do anything technical in life.
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    well, the university you can go to in shanghai is a university no one has ever heard about
    as for the city, shanghai is amazing, but it's very expensive
    you can very easily spend a huge amount of money
    i got some friends in fudan who pay 5000 yuan (more or less 400 pounds) just for a two rooms apartment
    and in this case it's not even the city centre (since fudan is quite far away)
    but it's amazing city
    clubbing in shanghai is legendary and it's a beautiful city
    however there are also cheap places for locals, but you don't seem the type to go to those places
    as for chinese... shanghai has lots of internationals, so, you will surely learn a bit of mandarin, but probably you will spend most of your time speaking english
    locals don't speak english... (i am not talking about students...)

    i've never been in mumbai, but the IIT is with no doubt a very famous one
    i would reconsider it... as for hygiene and safety...
    it all depends on how much you want to spend
    and mumbai seems way cheaper than shanghai
 
 
 
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