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How about we come up with a two-tier system here at UK-Learning, where by we have a part of the site which is never, or very rarely down due to it being too busy? People will be granted membership on either payment of a small fee (£10 a year?) or on account of being given wild card entry by the mighty mods.

Those with right of centre political inclinations will accept is as natural and right, after all we are not equal. And those of you with left of centre political inclinations, ask your Labour MP. In light of the awful bill just passed, they will be only too pleased to talk up multi-tiered systems.
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How about we come up with a two-tier system here at UK-Learning, where by we have a part of the site which is never, or very rarely down due to it being too busy? People will be granted membership on either payment of a small fee (£10 a year?) or on account of being given wild card entry by the mighty mods.

Those with right of centre political inclinations will accept is as natural and right, after all we are not equal. And those of you with left of centre political inclinations, ask your Labour MP. In light of the awful bill just passed, they will be only too pleased to talk up multi-tiered systems.
It won't work nobody will pay that kind of money also it would be near impossbile to code. You would have to have two servers so in effect two totaly different sites with differnet posts.
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How about we come up with a two-tier system here at UK-Learning, where by we have a part of the site which is never, or very rarely down due to it being too busy? People will be granted membership on either payment of a small fee (£10 a year?) or on account of being given wild card entry by the mighty mods.

Those with right of centre political inclinations will accept is as natural and right, after all we are not equal. And those of you with left of centre political inclinations, ask your Labour MP. In light of the awful bill just passed, they will be only too pleased to talk up multi-tiered systems.
that's realllly silly
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Oh come on, we even have to pay for Kazaa Lite these days, please don't make us pay for this website which we all appreciate so much! Though a "two-tier" system sounds good, maybe some of the forum should be made exclusive to those with a certain post count (so no guests), can the software do that?
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How about we come up with a two-tier system here at UK-Learning, where by we have a part of the site which is never, or very rarely down due to it being too busy? People will be granted membership on either payment of a small fee (£10 a year?) or on account of being given wild card entry by the mighty mods.

Those with right of centre political inclinations will accept is as natural and right, after all we are not equal. And those of you with left of centre political inclinations, ask your Labour MP. In light of the awful bill just passed, they will be only too pleased to talk up multi-tiered systems.
i got all lost and confues with the right and left stuff (always confuses me) but the SERVER BUSY message is really getting my goat up
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How about we come up with a two-tier system here at UK-Learning, where by we have a part of the site which is never, or very rarely down due to it being too busy? People will be granted membership on either payment of a small fee (£10 a year?) or on account of being given wild card entry by the mighty mods.

Those with right of centre political inclinations will accept is as natural and right, after all we are not equal. And those of you with left of centre political inclinations, ask your Labour MP. In light of the awful bill just passed, they will be only too pleased to talk up multi-tiered systems.
The bill just passed was 'right-wing' not left by the way. I agree with you though, the constant server problems are starting to get very very annoying.
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i got all lost and confues with the right and left stuff (always confuses me) but the SERVER BUSY message is really getting my goat up
It comes up as a result of too many guest viewers. Is there some way to limit this? Also, perhaps a sticky thread telling them to register to piss off.
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Having a members only area with no guests is about the best you could get. Maybe the About UKL section could have no guests. However most the guests are on the main forum. Its guests of course that use the bandwidth.
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The bill just passed was 'right-wing' not left by the way. I agree with you though, the constant server problems are starting to get very very annoying.
My point exactly, 'right-wing' by a Labour government. Even the left has given up faith in the left.
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Glad I've started a debate. I'd like things to carry on as they are, except with the reduction of server busy notices. I understand that to do this will require one of the following:

1. Subscription only service.
2. Approved members only service.
3. Stopping 'guests'. But they may just sign up putting us in square one.
4. Buying a bigger server.

Some of the above are impractical in terms of time, and some are impractical in terms of money. However if money was an issue, I'd like to think enough of us care enough about this forum to get some dosh together.
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My point exactly, 'right-wing' by a Labour government. Even the left has given up faith in the left.
Thing is though, New Labour never claimed to be left-wing. They are very much as right-wing as Thatcher's government. Have you ever heard a Labour representative use the word "socialist"? And their infamous Clause IV has been adapted to a watered down centre ideology (the original Clause IV of 1912 or something like that promised to implement a near-communist state in due course)...
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Why don't you just force those who wish to view threads to register?
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Why don't you just force those who wish to view threads to register?
Because they might just register, and not go away.
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It won't work nobody will pay that kind of money also it would be near impossbile to code. You would have to have two servers so in effect two totaly different sites with differnet posts.
I'd have actually though it'd be near trivial to code... you just reduce the load/connection cut off so that it's low enough to give paying users a good QoS then you bypass the load checks for those that are in a certain usergroup. Anyone who subscribes is put in that usergroup. Et voila, no busy messages for the subscribers (and more for everyone else).

vBulletin is a very well crafted piece of software, it should be relatively easily modifiable and is pretty logically thought out. Then again it had to be to compete with the market dominance of UBB, guess what, they won.


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Why don't you just force those who wish to view threads to register?
because you could make old addicted members even more addicted... this way they can just *lurk*
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Thing is though, New Labour never claimed to be left-wing. They are very much as right-wing as Thatcher's government. Have you ever heard a Labour representative use the word "socialist"? And their infamous Clause IV has been adapted to a watered down centre ideology (the original Clause IV of 1912 or something like that promised to implement a near-communist state in due course)...
Mate you can't pretend a government that has increased taxation by everything with the sole exception of income tax is a government that belives in the power of the free market to allocate resources correctly. Calling Labour as right-wing as Thatcher's government seems preposterous to me.

Labour have always traditionally been the party of the working classes. This is fine. But they are no Conservatives.

Even the top up fees bill contains more than a little bit of Robin Hood thinking in it.
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How about we come up with a two-tier system here at UK-Learning, where by we have a part of the site which is never, or very rarely down due to it being too busy? People will be granted membership on either payment of a small fee (£10 a year?) or on account of being given wild card entry by the mighty mods.

Those with right of centre political inclinations will accept is as natural and right, after all we are not equal. And those of you with left of centre political inclinations, ask your Labour MP. In light of the awful bill just passed, they will be only too pleased to talk up multi-tiered systems.
How silly.
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Because they might just register, and not go away.
Some will, some won't. It should reduce overall traffic, though.
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Mate you can't pretend a government that has increased taxation by everything with the sole exception of income tax is a government that belives in the power of the free market to allocate resources correctly. Calling Labour as right-wing as Thatcher's government seems preposterous to me.

Labour have always traditionally been the party of the working classes. This is fine. But they are no Conservatives.

Even the top up fees bill contains more than a little bit of Robin Hood thinking in it.
Thatcher herself reckons the success of Thatcherism is evident to see in New Labour. Blair is a huge admirer of Thatcher. Not all that preposterous.

I'm not pretending a government who increases taxation believes in the free market, it's just good old Gordon is a bit Old Labour anyway. Plus the tax increase is supposed to fund the spending on schools and hospitals and balance the budget, leaving interest rates to manipulate the economy instead of fiscal policy.

I don't see the Robin-Hood-ness of the fees bill. Not that I know much about it but isn't it another demonstration that New Labour is a right-wing free market party?
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yes vb3 is very easily modified, but as far as i know the only hack is to stop mods getting the messages!
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