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    The government wants universities to charge lower student fees so as not to put off poorer students but at the same time, cutting the money it gives to universities to teach students.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-12409428

    Is the government being hypocritical by putting the blame onto univeristies for charging too much while cutting their government funding so they have to make up the difference by charging students?
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    (Original post by Maker)
    The government wants universities to charge lower student fees so as not to put off poorer students but at the same time, cutting the money it gives to universities to teach students.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-12409428

    Is the government being hypocritical by putting the blame onto univeristies for charging too much while cutting their government funding so they have to make up the difference by charging students?
    No it isnt.

    The way universities were funded before was unsustainable. The reforms passes the cost from the government too the university/student more.

    Its a completely different reason they are adding sanctions to university fees. These threads are so silly
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    No because by doing it your way you assume we all have the right to go to uni. This simply places the emphasis/responsibility on the student who wants to go and study.

    I think it'll be good at weeding out the dicks who want to go to uni just because it's 'GNA BE A FKIN LASH'
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    (Original post by RDL445)
    No it isnt.

    The way universities were funded before was unsustainable. The reforms passes the cost from the government too the university/student more.

    Its a completely different reason they are adding sanctions to university fees. These threads are so silly
    So how is making the system more expensive for the government going to make it more sustainable :confused:
    The government is very worried right now. With more and more universities saying they will charge £9k a year, the government is realising that the new system will actually cost more money than the old one. Its why they are trying to get unis to charge less than the maximum.
    The governments figures of being able to afford the new system are based on the average fee being around £7.5k.
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    (Original post by WelshBluebird)
    So how is making the system more expensive for the government going to make it more sustainable :confused:
    The government is very worried right now. With more and more universities saying they will charge £9k a year, the government is realising that the new system will actually cost more money than the old one. Its why they are trying to get unis to charge less than the maximum.
    The governments figures of being able to afford the new system are based on the average fee being around £7.5k.
    It will be sustainable when all the poor, ex-poly unis are forced to close because noone goes there.

    They are making technical colleges to give those people another option. Going to uni should be for the academically advanced.

    I dont get why people always moan about poor students not being able to go to uni because tuition fees are higher. You can still get a loan to cover it and maintance loan is higher under this government.
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    (Original post by RDL445)
    No it isnt.

    The way universities were funded before was unsustainable. The reforms passes the cost from the government too the university/student more.

    Its a completely different reason they are adding sanctions to university fees. These threads are so silly
    The government deliberately allowed the number of students in higher education unsustainable. Higher education is a farce, universities are full of chavs who can't even tie their shoelaces yet still walk away with degrees that aren't worth the paper they're written on.
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    (Original post by garethDT)
    The government deliberately allowed the number of students in higher education unsustainable. Higher education is a farce, universities are full of chavs who can't even tie their shoelaces yet still walk away with degrees that aren't worth the paper they're written on.
    I agree with this! Labour have made going to university the one route to getting a high paying career. Im glad the tories are brining in technical colleges which work with the private sector so people can have a place to go and learn the exact skills the private sector need.
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    (Original post by NGC773)
    I agree with this! Labour have made going to university the one route to getting a high paying career. Im glad the tories are brining in technical colleges which work with the private sector so people can have a place to go and learn the exact skills the private sector need.
    The problem i that the private sector need to want to be involved.
    Its all well and good setting up these places, and increase the number of apprentership schemes, but if the employers aren't interested (which seems to be the case tbh), then they aren't going to do much good.

    Don't forget, part of the reason we have the situation with people needing to go to uni, is not really because of Labour, but because of companies only wanting to employ graduates, even for jobs that don't need a degree.
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    (Original post by Maker)
    The government wants universities to charge lower student fees so as not to put off poorer students but at the same time, cutting the money it gives to universities to teach students.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-12409428

    Is the government being hypocritical by putting the blame onto univeristies for charging too much while cutting their government funding so they have to make up the difference by charging students?
    Yes and stupid as well seeing that many universties wont be able to afford it unless they charge near to the max or the max.
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    (Original post by Maker)
    The government wants universities to charge lower student fees so as not to put off poorer students but at the same time, cutting the money it gives to universities to teach students.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-12409428

    Is the government being hypocritical by putting the blame onto univeristies for charging too much while cutting their government funding so they have to make up the difference by charging students?
    This has got Nick Clegg written all over it. He's trying to win back support with lower class students. A while back he was saying he was going to force Oxbridge to admit students with poorer grades if they were from poorer backgrounds. Yeah Clegg that's what we need affirmative action. That's not patronising at all.
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    (Original post by Maker)
    The government wants universities to charge lower student fees so as not to put off poorer students but at the same time, cutting the money it gives to universities to teach students.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-12409428

    Is the government being hypocritical by putting the blame onto univeristies for charging too much while cutting their government funding so they have to make up the difference by charging students?
    Yes, the Government is being very hypocritical. Cutting funding as much as the coalition did was bloody stupid in the first place, then having a go at universities when they charge higher fees to try and get funding back is even worse.

    I don't think many people deny cuts need to be made, but cutting HE as far as this was a big mistake.
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    (Original post by WelshBluebird)
    Don't forget, part of the reason we have the situation with people needing to go to uni, is not really because of Labour, but because of companies only wanting to employ graduates, even for jobs that don't need a degree.
    Companies only want to employ graduates because the country now has a surplus of graduates and a degree is therefore a good way of weeding out prospective employees. The whole thing became self-perpetuating, but Labour started it because they created the graduates in the first place.
 
 
 
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