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    So what do u think?

    Privatisation great.

    Less tax great.

    Punishing criminals great.

    Greater efficiency, quality services due to competition.

    No Selfish and lazy people playing of the system great.

    Margaret Thatcher great.

    Conservatives great.
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    (Original post by Sebastian Bartlett)
    So what do u think?
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    I think you are 14-16 years old, white middle class, have never studied politics or economics except to briefly confirm your pre-concieved notions, you are locally minded, barely know what right or left wing means, you believe that Britain is a left wing country.

    Also you are a troll.
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    (Original post by Sebastian Bartlett)

    Conservatives great.
    Except when they're kicking the lower classes, eh?
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    well it's hardly going to be left is it? :teehee:
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    In the opinion of Right Wingers, in the opinion of the Left maybe not.
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    (Original post by Sebastian Bartlett)
    So what do u think?
    I am a Conservative, however I think you should remember that we are hardly a right-wing party these days. We are 'centre-right', which basically means we are new-labour without the ears.

    (Original post by Sebastian Bartlett)
    Privatisation great.
    agreed. but not for everything. some major key industries need to remain government controlled. look at the banking crisis. taken our country from riches to rags.

    (Original post by Sebastian Bartlett)
    Less tax great.
    In theory hell yeah! but there must be enough to support spending. hopefully after the cuts have been all said and done and the UK is on the road to recovery (fingers crossed) taxes will be able to be lowered.

    (Original post by Sebastian Bartlett)
    Punishing criminals great.
    Yes! However, staunch right-wingers need to realise the value in rehabilitation. sometimes banging someone up for 15 years isn't always the best option. as Tony Blair said 'tough on crime, tough on the causes of crime'.

    (Original post by Sebastian Bartlett)
    Greater efficiency, quality services due to competition.
    I will give you that. a generalization though. it can drive smaller businesses under which is counter productive because once the bigger chains have a monopoly (which they pretty much do now) prices rise and cancel out all those wonderful tory tax breaks.

    (Original post by Sebastian Bartlett)
    No Selfish and lazy people playing of the system great.
    Always will be some. A key issue that right-wing ideals will mostly deal with. This is my biggest problem with left-wing ideals and the expansion of the welfare state.

    (Original post by Sebastian Bartlett)
    Margaret Thatcher great.
    Yes and no. Dictatorial, ruthless, arrogant woman at times. De-regulation of the financial sector has been an aggravating factor in the economic downturn. very ballsy though. stood strong when the miners threatened to break our backs.

    (Original post by Sebastian Bartlett)
    Conservatives great.
    HELLLLLLL YEAHHHHHHHH.

    (except fox-hunting )
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    I love being right wing, everyone wins!

    Except of course the poor, the minority groups, the working class, people in other countries, disabled people, people who have to care for someone instead of work and the entire public sector.

    But at least millionairs can afford a better holiday home and a private jet!
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    (Original post by Sebastian Bartlett)
    So what do u think?

    Privatisation great.

    Less tax great.

    Punishing criminals great.

    Greater efficiency, quality services due to competition.

    No Selfish and lazy people playing of the system great.

    Margaret Thatcher great.

    Conservatives great.
    You sir are Awesome.
    If God wanted the world to be Socialist he would have made money grow on trees. But it doesn't and real men have to actually work for a living, not sponge off the state.
    And in the words of John the Baptist, 'A Man who chooses not to work shall not eat.'
    Long live Thatcher!
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    And what about minority rights? hmm what of GLBT people, pro choices, green groups and a host of other social ideals that the right absolutely hates?
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    (Original post by Vozhak)
    And what about minority rights? hmm what of GLBT people, pro choices, green groups and a host of other social ideals that the right absolutely hates?
    Your confusing the right with the far right.
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    (Original post by Layabout)
    I think you are 14-16 years old, white middle class, have never studied politics or economics except to briefly confirm your pre-concieved notions, you are locally minded, barely know what right or left wing means, you believe that Britain is a left wing country.

    Also you are a troll.
    I am 16, white middle class but i do study politics at as level, i have a clear understanding of right and left wing ideologies and i dont think the uk is left wing.
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    unregulated markets great

    banking crisis great
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    (Original post by Sebastian Bartlett)
    I am 16, white middle class but i do study politics at as level, i have a clear understanding of right and left wing ideologies and i dont think the uk is left wing.
    Ho ho, watch this one he almost has an AS in politics.
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    And the left wing is...left?


    (Original post by Sebastian Bartlett)
    I am 16, white middle class but i do study politics at as level, i have a clear understanding of right and left wing ideologies and i dont think the uk is left wing.
    Bloody hell. I don't think anyone on here can come close to that level of experience and insight.
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    OP, would you rather live in Sweden or the USA?

    And why?
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    (Original post by S129439)
    agreed. but not for everything. some major key industries need to remain government controlled. look at the banking crisis. taken our country from riches to rags.
    If there is one industry that I think needs to be private and definitely not government controlled, it is the banking system.

    Most of the mayhem that goes on today is really down to state intervention in the banking system, or the fact we have a central banking system at all. Bank runs are a good thing since it forces banks to keep their inflation rates low and not to deviate from commodity backed money at all. Every time the government bails out a bank during a crisis, the bankers take less responsibility for their actions.

    The problem becomes bigger and bigger until it becomes the case that any potential bank run could mean hundreds of thousands of people lose their money every time there is a bank run.

    Inflation is essentially counterfeit; it has devalues the American dollar by 90% since the fractional reserve system was established in 1914. 90 percent. That is how bad it is.

    The world would be a significantly better place if we didn't have a central banking system. We need less government in that area, not more of it.

    People look towards the bank runs in 2007 and 2008 and think 'oh, well if there hadn't been a state to bail them out, we'd have all lost our cash'. I don't deny it would have been a disaster. But the problem is only there in the first place because of the gross monopoly on banking we have that is backed by the state. If there was a competing currency model, the consumer would demand for money that is high in value and backed by commodity gold. There would be small scale (so nothing disastrous) bank runs every time there was a deviation from the gold standard to keep the system in check. Bank runs are a good thing, despite common misconception.

    If I could privatise (completely privatise - no government subsidies, bail outs or regulations) just one industry, one industry in the world, it would be the banking system.

    (Original post by Abbadon27)
    And the left wing is...left?
    I believe he is inferring that the right wing is right (i.e. correct). A position I happen to agree with though I have little regard for playing around with words.
 
 
 
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