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    (Original post by kesso12)
    Is nottingham really that much of a Good uni?

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    Yes it is. As long as you go to a red brick and get a high standard degree, you should be fine.

    Didnt know you couldnt do work during term times at Oxford :eek: . If you ask me, thats harsh, and its not treating you like adults.
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    (Original post by Fynn)
    and with the work side course people work during the holidays but people from poorer backgrounds who cant afford oxbridge are going to have to work through uni in order to pay for it.
    Again, you're wrong. Oxbridge is not more expensive than other unis. Infact, it's a damn sight cheaper in many cases!! Cambridge has some of the cheapest room rents in the country, particularly if you get a 1st, and the college knocks off money as a reward. Food is provided and cheap. There are loads of bursaries and funds, particularly if you come from a poor background.

    As an example, I have friends who got 1sts and ended up paying £400 rent a term (10 weeks) for a bedroom, a living room and a kitchen all to themselves!! I didn't get a 1st and even so I still only pay £2100 for 40 weeks room rent. Compare that to my sister who pays something like £3000 for 52 weeks of rent in York. We can come and go as we please outside term time, and it's just charged per day at a rate of 1/70 of a term's rent. My sister has to pay for the whole year if she's there or not. I've had several friends in other uni's be impressed by how cheap it is for me here. Precisely because the colleges have so much money they don't need to charge us loads. Infact, a few years ago, my college (Trinity) wanted to drop it's rent prices but other colleges didn't want us to because it would make Trinity even more enticing to applicants.

    Basically, shut up, because you seem to keep being wrong about your preconceptions about Cambridge.
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    I think you might have missed his point - he wasn't saying Oxbridge was more expensive, but that other universities can be more affordable because they let you work during term time as well.

    I know a couple of people in 2nd/3rd year who work during term and holidays and need to do that to support themselves - especially when you consider that a lot of universities don't let you stay in halls for your whole degree (as I believe is standard at Oxbridge) so renting privately is the only option.

    Not that I have anything against Oxbridge at all, just pointing out...
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    (Original post by AlphaNumeric)
    Again, you're wrong. Oxbridge is not more expensive than other unis. Infact, it's a damn sight cheaper in many cases!! Cambridge has some of the cheapest room rents in the country, particularly if you get a 1st, and the college knocks off money as a reward. Food is provided and cheap. There are loads of bursaries and funds, particularly if you come from a poor background.

    As an example, I have friends who got 1sts and ended up paying £400 rent a term (10 weeks) for a bedroom, a living room and a kitchen all to themselves!! I didn't get a 1st and even so I still only pay £2100 for 40 weeks room rent. Compare that to my sister who pays something like £3000 for 52 weeks of rent in York. We can come and go as we please outside term time, and it's just charged per day at a rate of 1/70 of a term's rent. My sister has to pay for the whole year if she's there or not. I've had several friends in other uni's be impressed by how cheap it is for me here. Precisely because the colleges have so much money they don't need to charge us loads. Infact, a few years ago, my college (Trinity) wanted to drop it's rent prices but other colleges didn't want us to because it would make Trinity even more enticing to applicants.

    Basically, shut up, because you seem to keep being wrong about your preconceptions about Cambridge.
    Think i stired up the hornets nest here!!! lol sorry if you got so enraged i was just seeing what would happen if i posted somethin like that up!! my friend goes to oxford so i always have banter with him!!! no hard feeling?
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    (Original post by Fynn)
    ...i was just seeing what would happen if i posted somethin like that up!!
    You're really, really funny. Really.
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    (Original post by kesso12)
    Is nottingham really that much of a Good uni?
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    Yes.
    It is considered to be the 6th or the 7th best in the UK, out of 130 universities. I was mildly flattered to be offered a place there.
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    (Original post by Fynn)
    Think i stired up the hornets nest here!!!
    Not particularly. I can assure you I was not angry typing that post. It is however an all too common conception that Oxbridge is full of rich people due to it's expense. There are rich people here, but then there are rich people in most universities. It's perfectly possible to either get along with some of them or to form a circle of friends completely without any such people if you wish to (though deciding not to be friends with someone just because of their bank account is someone shallow IMO) so all tastes are catered for.
    (Original post by Fynn)
    i was just seeing what would happen if i posted somethin like that up!!
    As Wrangler points out, your humour is amazing. I'm glad I'm wearing a jumper, because I think my sides have just split.
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    (Original post by AlphaNumeric)
    Not particularly. I can assure you I was not angry typing that post. It is however an all too common conception that Oxbridge is full of rich people due to it's expense. There are rich people here, but then there are rich people in most universities. It's perfectly possible to either get along with some of them or to form a circle of friends completely without any such people if you wish to (though deciding not to be friends with someone just because of their bank account is someone shallow IMO) so all tastes are catered for.
    As Wrangler points out, your humour is amazing. I'm glad I'm wearing a jumper, because I think my sides have just split.
    lol
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    (Original post by kesso12)
    Is nottingham really that much of a Good uni?

    kes
    I think Nottingham is a really good uni, well-respected by employers and I really liked it when I went to visit.

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    Yes it is. As long as you go to a red brick and get a high standard degree, you should be fine.

    Didnt know you couldnt do work during term times at Oxford :eek: . If you ask me, thats harsh, and its not treating you like adults.
    Its only because we have 8-week terms. You just don't have time, especially if you do extra-curricular stuff. Before I went to uni, I thought it was really weird we couldn't have a job too, but now i see why!
    Saying that, I do know a couple of people who work a couple of nights a week in a bar or something and they're ok, but they probably don't get to socialise as much or have to get all their work done pretty speedily. Takes me ages to do mine because I never understand stuff in lectures!
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    So would people rather have a 2.1 from Oxbridge or a First from Warwick/Durham/Bristol etc.?
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    (Original post by swallows)
    So would people rather have a 2.1 from Oxbridge or a First from Warwick/Durham/Bristol etc.?
    First from any of those, any day of the week.
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    (Original post by swallows)
    So would people rather have a 2.1 from Oxbridge or a First from Warwick/Durham/Bristol etc.?
    I'll be more than happy with my 2:1 from Oxford (if I get it) and I'd rather have that than a 1st from those universities. The networking alone that I've done in my first term here is amazing, I've been offered jobs at two investment banks on the condition that I make it through my degree (i.e. no condition on classification) and I've only been to a handful of corporate events/careers events/etcetera.
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    (Original post by swallows)
    So would people rather have a 2.1 from Oxbridge or a First from Warwick/Durham/Bristol etc.?
    A 2.1 from Oxbridge trumps a 1st from a lesser university.
    (Note, LSE and Imperial are not "lesser universities")
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    A 2.1 from Oxbridge trumps a 1st from a lesser university.
    (Note, LSE and Imperial are not "lesser universities")
    Is that implying that while Imperial and LSE are not lesser univerisities, Warwick/Durham/UCL are? I think I'd rather have a First from Warwick than a 2.1 from Oxbridge (paricularly seeing as a 2.1 is more or less the norm these days).
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    (Original post by Casey)
    I'll be more than happy with my 2:1 from Oxford (if I get it) and I'd rather have that than a 1st from those universities. The networking alone that I've done in my first term here is amazing, I've been offered jobs at two investment banks on the condition that I make it through my degree (i.e. no condition on classification) and I've only been to a handful of corporate events/careers events/etcetera.
    Are you suggesting that networking doesn't go on in other universities? The contacts I have made from my time at St Andrews and here in Nottingham are incredibly useful.
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    (Original post by ChemistBoy)
    Are you suggesting that networking doesn't go on in other universities? The contacts I have made from my time at St Andrews and here in Nottingham are incredibly useful.
    I'm suggesting that it doesn't go on to the same degree, pardon the pun . Employers are literally falling over themselves to hire people from Oxford (and I guess Cambridge) from what I've seen and I'm only a first year, have been mildly apathetic about the entire career thing and have only been around for 8 weeks.
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    (Original post by Casey)
    I'm suggesting that it doesn't go on to the same degree, pardon the pun . Employers are literally falling over themselves to hire people from Oxford (and I guess Cambridge) from what I've seen and I'm only a first year, have been mildly apathetic about the entire career thing and have only been around for 8 weeks.
    And they aren't at other universities? Maybe I was dreaming when I was an undergraduate.
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    (Original post by ChemistBoy)
    And they aren't at other universities? Maybe I was dreaming when I was an undergraduate.
    From what I know, from people I know at other universities and the people who offered me jobs, no, not to the same degree.
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    (Original post by Casey)
    From what I know, from people I know at other universities and the people who offered me jobs, no, not to the same degree.
    I think we are trying to talk about something highly subjective. All I know is that of my 15 - 20 or so friends that attended oxbridge, none have been presented with opportunities that I have not been presented with (outside those relating to their field of study). As I am a PhD student I know a great many oxbridge graduates and I do not doubt that the quality of education and network were far superior to regional universities, in the past. But the modern demographic of PhD students here are nottingham has degrees from a wide range of universities and these are bright and clever people who often have decided to continue their study instead of a career in the city, etc. Most modern employers are not naive enough to discard the wealth of talent in the regional universities.
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    (Original post by swallows)
    Is that implying that while Imperial and LSE are not lesser univerisities, Warwick/Durham/UCL are? I think I'd rather have a First from Warwick than a 2.1 from Oxbridge (paricularly seeing as a 2.1 is more or less the norm these days).
    Exactly. For example, its arguable that a first in Maths from Warwick, is probably better than a first from Oxford let alone a 2.1. Some of those uni's mentioned are very good top 5/10 uni's. A first would be highly rated.
 
 
 
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