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    (Original post by thru sun and rain)
    Unfortunately that isn't always the case with everyone.
    I have heard of an case where a woman tried to hang herself, (in front of her you child) I can't remember the specifics, but paramedics got her to hospital, and she survived, as a vegetable. (dont like the term vegetable) They said she would never talk or do anything again, but she has been a very lucky person where her body healed and with in 2 weeks she was walking again talking, back to how she was before. She was very lucky because not everyone who attempts and fails is that lucky.

    Life is a very valuable thing, and though whilst depressed many people cannot see that. There are many people around the world dying from incurable diseases that wish just to have that little longer, but will never get it. and unfortunately there are many people suffering from depression that want it over. That find nothing worth fighting for, and I see it as a shame. One person can achieve so much, but choose to throw it away for fear of never being cured.
    Someone who tried to hang herself in front of her child clearly had not thought that one through, I think my point still stands that if you've thought about it long enough you're sure to come up with a plan that's highly unlikely to fail.

    What you're missing is that when you're seriously depressed your life isn't valuable. When I was at my most depressed I lacked even the motivation to eat or get out of bed - I'd just lie in bed doing nothing and speaking to nobody. How is that of any value to myself or anyone else? I was lucky and did get out of my depression, but if someone had been in the same state for ten or twenty years, with little hope of recovery, killing themselves seems entirely reasonable.
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    This is kind of how I've feel. I have had a bad life and I have felt like this since I was a child, so I have felt like this for years. I even attempted last year but survived, but I think I might do it again. I know some people say what about your family, people in worse situations blah blah blah. But for me, I feel as though I am existing, I don't feel normal, I can't live a normal life and do normal things because of what I've been through and what I am going through, and I didn't ask to be born. I can't help but feel this way and it saddens me sometimes.
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    (Original post by thru sun and rain)
    (admittedly I get very paranoid in a car but thats not fear of my life :o:) Paranoia has indeed gotten the worst of me.

    However, if you asked all the people who tried and failed they would say it was the worst thing they had ever done.
    "all" of them? I don't think so. Else people wouldn't then try again. There'd be zero reason to put people in hospital after trying because "all" of them would regret it, hence not try again.

    None of your assertions are backed up by facts. I'm started to get irritated that you aren't refuting any arguments, just bringing totally new things in each time, and each time I am utterly destroying your arguments. What's next? Pluto isn't a planet anymore?
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    This makes me so sad.
    I have been in situations where this has been my mind set and i've watched close friends go through this too. I can relate to the pain you feel, and I really wish there was something I could say or do that would bring some comfort.
    Please try and take care.
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    Facepalm.
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    there are ppl out there in the world with cancer etc that would do anything to live one extra day so that they can spend this time with their family and loved ones or enjoy whats left of their life and u want to give up yours so easily?

    if you're depressed do something about it
    what do you think anti-depressants are for?
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    (Original post by kerily)
    I'm 100% aware that I will die by suicide too, one day. I don't plan for this to be soon - not even within 20-30 years - but I know that that's how I will die.

    It's not particularly a product of my depression (although I am depressed); it's something I've just felt that I've known, and since I was about 8 or 9, too. It just seems inevitable, really; like my life is definitely leading up to it. I don't think it's particularly selfish and I don't say it because I want attention or whatever; it just feels logical.

    That's not right. Seek help.
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    (Original post by mathperson)
    OK, firstly I just want to say this is not a thread that has been made because I've had a bad day, and is it not a simple rant.

    I'm not clinically depressed at the moment, and so am not in receipt of any counselling or medication therapy.

    However, as many people on TSR will be aware, I have experienced real, and severe, depression 1 year back (which I had for about 18 months - 2 years in total, but feelings of 'being down'/upset for probably 3 years to be realistic).

    I just feel that at some point, maybe in the next six months, maybe in the next 10 years (though I must admit I don't think it will be that long at all) that I will die by suicide.

    I'm not writing this thread because I expect someone to reply with a well rehersed answer, just because I feel as though I would like to express it.

    Thanks.
    You are not dying by suicide, you would be killing yourself. simple. I hope thats not a downplay to make it seem more normal to you, to want to kill oneself or anyone else...murder persona-when you do it to yourself, is not 'normal', but hey abnormal things occur every second of the day. Everyone will die by some means, so when you choose to do it to yourself, you do it, i dont get why you feel the need to tell the world though, people commit suicide everyday. its like a tree falling when no one is around to hear it...its like it never happened. you say you dont want help, youve made up your mind...why proclaim it? want to take others down with you?? clearly you are still depressed, just because your serotonin levels may be in an acceptable range, doesnt mean your not depressed anymore. some people will struggle with it all their lives with no cure, some cant deal like yourself and end it all. there was a woman in the news who had severe depression wasnt cured by drugs so had electrotherapy, maybe you should go for that. people dont express things they dont want people to know. and since suicide is the most ultimate personal intrinsic act that requires no comment nor reason, there is something youre looking for.

    instead of spending what life you have left looking forward to death, how about you sepnd it searching for that reason, or just live life!do boring stuff, do exciting stuff, do different stuff. most peoples lives are dull and mundane, mine 2 but i still i get a kick out of that,find some damn pleasure in life. it is a life someone else didnt get to live, and fuk it i fought thru disease and hostility from conception to be here. you say 3 years...hell a bus might have done the job for you before then. i mean, be rational, the only thing certain in life is death, yet you act like it will be a long time coming. im sure youve noticed, 'life' isnt very long, 70-80 tops for few people, mostly in developed countries...but death...fukin eternal. you aint ever coming the fuk bak,no second go. every second gone is 1 less second closer to a different eternity, that alone makes me want to see the sun some mornings,, because for all i know the next hour may not come, and i will never experience this reality again. i wish people like you could give life to someone else, cus i know someone who didnt want to die, and did from disease, and here you are, a waster. you desparately want help. you want so much to not feel like you're feeling,you want to be able to have a good life and enjoy it. life fukin sucks sometimes...and u are depressed by it. Clinically, you may now be 'fine' but spiritualy, you are so affected, and theres only 1 thing that can help you.but you have convinced yourself youre ok and fine, but your angle of normality doesnt even exist in this plane.
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    I feel I need to really repeat what I hinted at in my OP. I'm not about to commit suicide and I don't feel particularly depressed at the moment, however I just feel as though it wouldn't take much to push me over the edge.
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    then you are a prime candidate for help. get some! stop just existing on the brink.
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    (Original post by speaksense)
    then you are a prime candidate for help. get some! stop just existing on the brink.
    :ditto:
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    (Original post by Ape Gone Insane)
    There are 6 billion or more people in the world. Some die by accident, some die by war, some die by disease, some die by hunger. And this is happening in every minute of every hour of every day.

    You want to kill yourself by choice. You simply don't know what tomorrow is going to be like, or the next month, or year - life can get better. Of course, it can get worse but it can also get better. Giving it up will never allow you to find out. Ever. There have been people with depression for decades, for a lifetime - they've pulled through.

    Suicide seems like the ideal solution when you are at the low point of your life, when nothing is working out. That does not mean, and never has meant, that it's never going to go uphill from there. Imagine how grateful you could turn out to be when, in future, things do turn out well. Think about that.
    This is a great answer. I can only agree to it.

    Thanks for that. This even gave me a better thought about life, not that I'm going to commit suicide or anything, but that whenever I am down for more than a day, I can think of the fact that hopefully things will get better and just get the best out of the situation.

    To the OP: Hope you don't do it. Think of how many years you have to live. 2/3 years of depression is nothing compared to a long healthy life. Nobody knows how long you will live, but it could be another 50, 60, 70, or even more years. So, don't let a couple of years get you down and think of that.

    Trust me if you don't do it, one day you will be thankful that you didn't do suicide because one day you will be enjoying life to the full extent.

    Get some professional help. I don't know exact places to get help, but I'm sure people here must have stated them.
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    (Original post by muffingg)
    This is a great answer. I can only agree to it.

    Thanks for that. This even gave me a better thought about life, not that I'm going to commit suicide or anything, but that whenever I am down for more than a day, I can think of the fact that hopefully things will get better and just get the best out of the situation.
    Haha, the people negging don't seem to think so.

    I edited it a few hours ago to include some aspects of an earlier post I made.

    And yeah, I understand what you mean.
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    (Original post by TAZ2K)
    I'll probably die of suicide very soon to be perfectly honest
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    can you give me a bit of advice please mate
    Share your problems so we can advise.

    (Original post by Sabertooth)
    You've also got to consider whether life is going to be worth living after waiting 30 years with depression for a cure (which, I remind you, may never come). Life would have to be pretty ****ing awesome to make up for 30+ years of depression, and, let's be honest, life is rarely ever that awesome.

    You're going to be over 50, you'll probably be dying from some disease or another, you'll have no friends left as depression has driven them a way, most your family will be dead, you'll be stuck in a crap job as depression robbed your ability to get decent qualifications, you have a crap house because of your crap job, you may have self harm scars all over you, you may have side effects from 30 years of taking crappy drugs to try control your depression. Worth it? No.
    This isn't a counter-argument or anything, but more a point of note. I completely understand the point about the end result of being depression for X amount of years, but I don't wholly agree with it. I understand that it is ultimately a horrible result (crappy job, old age, no friends, no family and a general crap life)

    But it's something? Maybe it is just me, but I find the thought of death utterly terrifying. To have lived, breathed, felt joy (at some point if any), felt depressed - it's all an integral point of my existence. It is me. Of course, you don't have those crucial aspects which make it worth being you, but you still exist. Some say what is the point in existing at all? But at least you exist in the first place.

    Setting aside religion, once you're dead, you're dead. Not for a finite amount of time, but forever. And with it goes your consciousness. So for me it boils down to, if we all go to the same place sooner or later, going by choice is just taking away from the point of it all. To exist.

    I realise that is a totally incoherent post. Don't mind me. :getmecoat:
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    Come on bro don't commit suicide. We all love you man.
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    (Original post by Potential Trigger)
    That's not right. Seek help.
    :rolleyes:

    Has it ever occured to you that 'seek help' isn't an instant miracle cure? I actually am seeking help, but being turned away from every professional I approach (GP, mental health service etc) because either they don't have funding for me now I'm over 18, or they don't take what I'm saying seriously (despite there being a lot of evidence that they should).
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    (Original post by kerily)
    :rolleyes:

    Has it ever occured to you that 'seek help' isn't an instant miracle cure? I actually am seeking help, but being turned away from every professional I approach (GP, mental health service etc) because either they don't have funding for me now I'm over 18, or they don't take what I'm saying seriously (despite there being a lot of evidence that they should).
    Well I am not far from graduating so I do have an idea how it works :rolleyes:

    If you have truly been "turned away" then clearly you are at low risk of suicide. Perhaps you just have a depresssive personality but it won't manifest into anything serious. Good news.
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    (Original post by kerily)
    I'm 100% aware that I will die by suicide too, one day. I don't plan for this to be soon - not even within 20-30 years - but I know that that's how I will die.

    It's not particularly a product of my depression (although I am depressed); it's something I've just felt that I've known, and since I was about 8 or 9, too. It just seems inevitable, really; like my life is definitely leading up to it. I don't think it's particularly selfish and I don't say it because I want attention or whatever; it just feels logical.
    So, you just "know", but it seems, at the same time, perfectly "logical"? Elaborate.
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    (Original post by Potential Trigger)
    If you have truly been "turned away" then clearly you are at low risk of suicide. Perhaps you just have a depresssive personality but it won't manifest into anything serious. Good news.
    Without wanting to make every TSR thread about my mental health issues, I have been self-harming and suicidal for the past 5-6 years and made numerous suicide attempts before. I've also had a minor alcohol problem. I went to my GP saying this when I was 13 and everything was just starting, and got told I was fine, despite having attempted suicide; I then went to my GP a couple of weeks ago, told them about the 5-6 years of history, and again, yeah, apparently it's just my period. :rolleyes: I realise I come over as a disillusioned cynic, but having such faith in the mental health system is perhaps a trifle naive - people with real problems do get told to go away. I also have a friend who's been diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia and has told her GP multiple times that she thinks she's going to severely damage someone else or herself, and begged to be admitted to a secure unit because she honestly believes she's going to do something awful. Her GP refuses to admit her to hospital.

    It scares me to think that this may be repeated up and down the country :eek:
 
 
 
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