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    So are they saying they don't mind the basic rate of tax going up to 21 or 22%, i.e. they will also pay more tax?

    Thought not..... funny that, isn't it?


    So most of the marchers who voted for the people who caused our deficit (Labour) now complain that cuts are being made and want higher taxes, but don't want to pay the higher tax themselves......

    ......however.......... the sensible people who didn't vote in Labour should now pay more in tax.


    Little lesson in politics: don't vote Labour and wonder why we need cuts afterwards!

    Labour created jobs which weren't needed, the coalition are simply getting rid of these un-needed jobs.

    Moral of the story (with regards to Labour-created-jobs): easy come, easy go.
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    Labour and its voters are hypocrits!
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    (Original post by london12)
    So are they saying they don't mind the basic rate of tax going up to 21 or 22%, i.e. they will also pay more tax?

    Thought not..... funny that, isn't it?


    So most of the marchers who voted for the people who caused our deficit (Labour) now complain that cuts are being made and want higher taxes, but don't want to pay the higher tax themselves......

    ......however.......... the sensible people who didn't vote in Labour should now pay more in tax.


    Little lesson in politics: don't vote Labour and wonder why we need cuts afterwards!

    Labour created jobs which weren't needed, the coalition are simply getting rid of these un-needed jobs.

    Moral of the story (with regards to Labour-created-jobs): easy come, easy go.
    this this this
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    Say we did go with no cuts. How much would tax have to rise? And how much damage would this do to the economy? Surely we would see higher VAT higher Fuel tax higher Income tax National insurance. Would this not to massive lasting damage do our economy?
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    Can I just remind you all, that the recession was cyclical... It happened worldwide.
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    Threads such as this make me wonder whether the contributors agreeing to the OP actually research any other view than their entrenched personal views emanating from their particular political loyalty...and the propaganda emanating from within?

    If they did, they would see that there are a myriad of alternatives to the swingeing cuts that are about to descend upon the nation.

    We ain't seen anything yet, believe me! Just wait until we get to the stage that our close neighbour, Ireland are at, following their flawed economic policies which the coaltion as modelling theirs on.
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    LABOUR CAUSED IT. TORIES FIX IT.

    ^^^^ - that's just so utterly simplistic. I'm no economist, but it's obviously far more complicated than that.
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    (Original post by yawn)
    Threads such as this make me wonder whether the contributors agreeing to the OP actually research any other view than their entrenched personal views emanating from their particular political loyalty...and the propaganda emanating from within?

    If they did, they would see that there are a myriad of alternatives to the swingeing cuts that are about to descend upon the nation.

    We ain't seen anything yet, believe me! Just wait until we get to the stage that our close neighbour, Ireland are at, following their flawed economic policies which the coaltion as modelling theirs on.
    Coming from the person who's idea of social-mobility for the poor is to hope their parents can buy a £300,000 house in the catchment area of a good comprehensive school because grammar schools are evil......

    Did you pick up your Guardian ok this morning?
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    (Original post by Aj12)
    Say we did go with no cuts. How much would tax have to rise? And how much damage would this do to the economy? Surely we would see higher VAT higher Fuel tax higher Income tax National insurance. Would this not to massive lasting damage do our economy?
    Taxation does not need to rise if we don't go with cuts.

    Dealing effectively and determinedly with tax avoidance and tax evasion would bring in 10's of billions of pounds to the nation's purse. Simples...

    Cuts on the scale proposed, on the other hand, will cause massive lasting damage to our economy and our society.
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    (Original post by karateworm)
    LABOUR CAUSED IT. TORIES FIX IT.

    ^^^^ - that's just so utterly simplistic. I'm no economist, but it's obviously far more complicated than that.
    Which party caused us to go begging to the IMF in the 1970s?

    (Every time Labour have been in power, since the 1970s, we've been bankrupt after........)
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    (Original post by yawn)
    Threads such as this make me wonder whether the contributors agreeing to the OP actually research any other view than their entrenched personal views emanating from their particular political loyalty...and the propaganda emanating from within?

    If they did, they would see that there are a myriad of alternatives to the swingeing cuts that are about to descend upon the nation.

    We ain't seen anything yet, believe me! Just wait until we get to the stage that our close neighbour, Ireland are at, following their flawed economic policies which the coaltion as modelling theirs on.
    Perhaps you would be so kind as to list some of these viable alternatives? Ireland had little other choice; bond yields were unsustainably high, there was a complete lack of confidence. If Ireland had carried on spending this problem would only have escalated. The same is becoming true of the UK and it has to be seen that we are taking extreme measures to deal with our debts.
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    I'm sure it had nothing to do with the bankers and their casino-style school of economics...
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    (Original post by yawn)
    Taxation does not need to rise if we don't go with cuts.

    Dealing effectively and determinedly with tax avoidance and tax evasion would bring in 10's of billions of pounds to the nation's purse. Simples...

    Cuts on the scale proposed, on the other hand, will cause massive lasting damage to our economy and our society.
    Yeh, I mean, if we got rid of all those bureaucrats in the NHS.........and the quangos......... life just wouldn't function..... :rolleyes:
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    (Original post by yawn)
    Dealing effectively and determinedly with tax avoidance and tax evasion would bring in 10's of billions of pounds to the nation's purse.
    Our debt INTEREST is 70bn a year........ you wouldnt even pay off the INTEREST with your idea!

    Get the full scope of the problem now??
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    (Original post by london12)
    Coming from the person who's idea of social-mobility for the poor is to hope their parents can buy a £300,000 house in the catchment area of a good comprehensive school because grammar schools are evil......

    Did you pick up your Guardian ok this morning?
    You are projecting your own views of what you think my politics are onto me...erroneously as it happens. And incidentally, just to illustrate how wrong your assumptions are, I read The Times every day with the exception of Sundays, when it's The Sunday Times.

    Now, if you have nothing other than making personal slights against other people to offer, I suggest you go elsewhere...maybe 'chat' would be more appropriate for you than the high standards we expect of posters on D&D.
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    (Original post by yawn)
    Taxation does not need to rise if we don't go with cuts.

    Dealing effectively and determinedly with tax avoidance and tax evasion would bring in 10's of billions of pounds to the nation's purse. Simples...

    Cuts on the scale proposed, on the other hand, will cause massive lasting damage to our economy and our society.
    Yeah. Simples. You're a genius.
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    (Original post by yawn)
    You are projecting your own views of what you think my politics are onto me...erroneously as it happens. And incidentally, just to illustrate how wrong your assumptions are, I read The Times every day with the exception of Sundays, when it's The Sunday Times.

    Now, if you have nothing other than making personal slights against other people to offer, I suggest you go elsewhere...maybe 'chat' would be more appropriate for you than the high standards we expect of posters on D&D.
    Do you prefer comprehensive schools over grammar schools, yes or no?
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    (Original post by yawn)
    Taxation does not need to rise if we don't go with cuts.

    Dealing effectively and determinedly with tax avoidance and tax evasion would bring in 10's of billions of pounds to the nation's purse. Simples...

    Cuts on the scale proposed, on the other hand, will cause massive lasting damage to our economy and our society.
    Tax avoidance is legal, if it was so easy to just stop it companies wouldn't have to be paying accountants to reduce their tax bill. Tax evasion is illegal anyways, not sure what you want the government to do here.
    The problem with these simplistic ideas, be it taxing all bank transactions or increasing tax rates is that they all lead to more state interference and stifle the private sector further. Now Labour and socialists might enjoy this very much because they get to protect their fat pensions while preaching to "the people", but large public sectors do not generate wealth or growth.
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    (Original post by yawn)
    Taxation does not need to rise if we don't go with cuts.

    Dealing effectively and determinedly with tax avoidance and tax evasion would bring in 10's of billions of pounds to the nation's purse. Simples...

    Cuts on the scale proposed, on the other hand, will cause massive lasting damage to our economy and our society.
    Can't see over 100 billion coming from closing tax loopholes and tax avoidance
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    (Original post by london12)
    So are they saying they don't mind the basic rate of tax going up to 21 or 22%, i.e. they will also pay more tax?

    Thought not..... funny that, isn't it?


    So most of the marchers who voted for the people who caused our deficit (Labour) now complain that cuts are being made and want higher taxes, but don't want to pay the higher tax themselves......

    ......however.......... the sensible people who didn't vote in Labour should now pay more in tax.


    Little lesson in politics: don't vote Labour and wonder why we need cuts afterwards!

    Labour created jobs which weren't needed, the coalition are simply getting rid of these un-needed jobs.

    Moral of the story (with regards to Labour-created-jobs): easy come, easy go.
    fully agree.

    labour flooded the public sector with jobs that were unneeded to make it seem like they were doing something about unemployment which then made their statistics look better, when in reality they were just creating false positives, and the inevitable is now happening.
 
 
 
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