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    Under-rated: Heythrop College, Istitute of Philosophy.
    We have Vardy.
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    (Original post by ajp100688)
    You think people on TSR hate Warwick? Just look at what they say about Queen Mary. To most of the molly coddled middle class Oxbridge wannabes on TSR the fact that it's in the East End (although only a mile away from the City) seems to mean that for some reason it's some hellhole with no academic standards. Warwick gets off lightly in comparision


    I forgot to mention that QMUL is pretty underrated. It is so over-looked that it's not even being mentioned in this thread, hah. But that's probably because of its location and the high concentration of top unis in London rather than its quality.



    Regarding Warwick, Will from the Inbetweeners summed it up quite nicely. :teehee:
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    (Original post by brownriceduckky)
    why would you say that? im considering going [to Liverpool]. care to tell me more? Thanks!
    The departments are red-brick university standard for the most part, and similar to a lot of red-brick unis you'll find - some great lecturers, some not so good, etc. I'm basing this on my friends' opinions and sneaking into lectures by the way, I live here, but I don't go to the Uni (yet)! There's also some really great funds that they do, for example, if you come from a family earning <£20k(?)/year and you manage to get AAB, you'll recieve £4000 from the university. A lot of people will argue that this is unfair, but personally, I think it makes sense.

    However, for me, it's the city that makes it. There's basically always somewhere that will cater to your tastes.

    At night, there's Concert Square if you want to go to commercialized, pop-music areas - there's a Baa Bar, a Revolutions, Walkabout, etc. If you want metal, there's bars like The Swann that specialise in that. There's a LOT of places you'll want to go if you're into alternative music. There's also RnB clubs, house, jazz, trance, quiet places to chill out... You get the picture. I can help you out a bit more if you tell me what music you're into! It's also a LOT cheaper than it's neighbouring cities - Manchester, for example, is pretty expensive in comparison. When I went to a commercial club in Manchester, I paid £6 for a triple whiskey and coke - £2.50 in a pub in Liverpool. An all right pub as well, I might add! Most places a double vodka and coke isn't more than £2.50, and pints vary from £1.70-£3.00 ish (unless you go to the Raz - 70p for a pint. You don't want to go there though.). £3 is v pricey in Lpool. You can get a bottle and a shot in a few places for £2.

    During the day, you've got a whole load of shops to choose from; designer, high street, charity shops, vintage, alternative, foreign, whatever. I've not ever wanted something from a shop in Liverpool and the shop not been there. There's the docks to walk around, there's a couple of cinemas (one called Fact is great - specialises in foreign/indie cinema, and often does art shows as well - and you're allowed to take alcohol into the cinema!), museums, art galleries, vintage markets in a bar called Bumper every few weeks - free food and drink!, chinatown (chinese new year here is ace), nice pubs that serve cheap food (one serves it for free when you buy a drink on Friday - normally BBQ, some let you play Fifa for free), interesting architecture and art (google "lambanana"!), nice places to walk if you go a bit outside of the city (20 min walk or so), a few beaches nearby (20 minutes on the train)... etc.

    I've only been here properly 6 months or so but I still like it. After a while, as with everywhere, you get used to the stuff and sometimes get bored, but most of the time there's something new going on, and some of my friends have been here a few years and still like it. Sorry I can't tell you much about the university itself, I can tell you it's pretty though!

    Sorry for the long post - mail me if you want to know anything else about the city, I think I know a fair bit of it now. xx
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    underrated - Southampton, definitely doesn't get as much praise as the rest of the Russel Group which is a shame as it's a great uni
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    (Original post by lightningfist)
    Can anyone tell me why everyone is commenting that Warwick is overrated?

    I have unconditional offers from LSE, Warwick, and UCL, and I'm trying to pick between LSE and Warwick.

    Comments will be much appreciated, thanks.
    Warwick uni has a fantastic reputation for Maths+Economics courses but for everything else, it is no better than any other Russell Group uni. For example I have offers for Biochem from Warwick+Sheffield- even though Warwick is said to have the better overall reputation, the department at Sheffield is miles better.
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    (Original post by BigV)
    I live in Coventry and I know exactly where Warwick Uni is thanks.

    It is far closer to Coventry than anywhere else and many of the students chose to live in the Earlsdon or Canley areas of Coventry rather than go the extra distance to Leamington.

    For an undergrad with no car it is kind of in the middle of nowhere and there isn't a whole lot going on.

    I'm not knocking Warwick as an educational institution - I just think as a whole it is a bit over rated. Many other universities provide just as good an education but don't get any of the hype Warwick receives.
    The majority of students (80% from my year at least, and the same for most second years I've spoken to) choose to live in Leam, I've found, as it's in general a nicer place than Coventry and has got a pretty fab student scene because of all the Warwickers living there....

    For an undergrad with no car at uni (like me) it is perfectly fine. The number 12 bus service Cov-Uni is reliable and gets me there. There are around 3/4 other bus services that go from Kenilworth/Leam/Coventry which are decent

    Hype is just down to personal opinion I suppose, mainly opinion of a campus-type environment. If you don't like that sort of insular environment then you probably wn't like it/think it's overrated, but if you do then
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    (Original post by Warrior King)
    King's and Edinburgh certainly aren't under rated by anybody in the know.

    If anything I'd say Cass is over rated. way over!
    KCL - why do people rate it so highly?

    In terms of academic prestige KCL is pretty mediocre on average. It was around 20th in terms of the RAE. Partly saved by having a moderately good and large medical school. In Science and Engineering it is awful. The only beacons in the Humanities are French (2nd) and Philosophy (3rd). Law is second - hard to screw that up in London - there is apparently no serious economics and in business they are 6th (other social science undistinguished). I guess they are in the shadow of the LBS and .... Cardiff?!?

    In terms of entry grades 13th - sparkling?

    In terms of student satisfaction 78th - that is really bad. Imagine the array of closed office doors and staff that &quot;work at home&quot;.

    Its only redeeming feature is 9th in employability. With the London advantage hard to say that is great.
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    Surely the 'ratedness' translates directly into graduate prospects? Or are we talking about the rep purely within the confines of TSR? I don't see how anyone could classify anything without a definition of what is meant by under/overrated.
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    over-rated: Liverpool/Nottingham/Manchester

    Under-rated: Cardiff
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    (Original post by kbountra)
    Warwick uni has a fantastic reputation for Maths+Economics courses but for everything else, it is no better than any other Russell Group uni. For example I have offers for Biochem from Warwick+Sheffield- even though Warwick is said to have the better overall reputation, the department at Sheffield is miles better.
    Warwick's got a great reputation for a lot of subjects other than econ and maths. The only reason why those are SO hyped is because Warwick is ranked higher than Oxford for them, which is a rare and prestigious feat (one that the university would understandably like to publicise). I'm not sure about all the course, but many of the traditional core subjects are very strong. History, for instance, is around the top 5 in the country and, across the tables, equal with UCL.

    I'm just curious as to why so many people on this thread believe Warwick's so overrated? Have they been there and had a bad experience? Or do they have other reasons?
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    (Original post by lightningfist)
    Can anyone tell me why everyone is commenting that Warwick is overrated?

    I have unconditional offers from LSE, Warwick, and UCL, and I'm trying to pick between LSE and Warwick.

    Comments will be much appreciated, thanks.
    LSE and Warwick are both great Universities, consistently rated in the top ten (mostly top 7) UK Universities in terms of the production and quality of research over the past 3 decades.

    Warwick is not overrated (neither is LSE). Everyone within Universities - and Employers - rate it very highly. My guess is that criticisms of Warwick on TSR says more about the people making the criticism rather than any real knowledge they have. You know a bit like the irritation of the mediocre against the high achiever

    Just because a bunch of aspiring students on TSR state something really doesn't make it so
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    (Original post by MC armani)
    Warwick's got a great reputation for a lot of subjects other than econ and maths. The only reason why those are SO hyped is because Warwick is ranked higher than Oxford for them, which is a rare and prestigious feat (one that the university would understandably like to publicise). I'm not sure about all the course, but many of the traditional core subjects are very strong. History, for instance, is around the top 5 in the country and, across the tables, equal with UCL.

    I'm just curious as to why so many people on this thread believe Warwick's so overrated? Have they been there and had a bad experience? Or do they have other reasons?
    I think Warwick's strength as a whole is in Maths/Econ but you are probably right in saying that they are also quite strong in arts subjects. From what I've seen in science and engineering though, they are relatively weak which doesn't make them an all-round university. Some people dislike Warwick because of the unpleasant architecture and others hate the idea of being stuck in a 'bubble'.
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    (Original post by kbountra)
    I think Warwick's strength as a whole is in Maths/Econ but you are probably right in saying that they are also quite strong in arts subjects. From what I've seen in science and engineering though, they are relatively weak which doesn't make them an all-round university. Some people dislike Warwick because of the unpleasant architecture and others hate the idea of being stuck in a 'bubble'.
    They say that about Cambridge too, but I wouldn't mind being stuck in the Cambridge bubble
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    (Original post by MC armani)
    They say that about Cambridge too, but I wouldn't mind being stuck in the Cambridge bubble
    Me neither
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    (Original post by nulli tertius)
    I think you will find that many people ignore the local government reforms of the 1960s and 70s.

    Uxbridge is in Middlesex, Huntingdon is in Huntingdonshire, Manchester is in Lancashire and Coventry is in Warwickshire.
    This may be true, unless you actually live in Coventry. I've lived here my whole life and I've never known anyone to refer to it as in Warwickshire.
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    (Original post by nulli tertius)
    That is why they are called Ivy League, redbrick and plate glass!
    Inst Ivey league only applicable to the American institutions? and Red brick refers to the Russell group (which universities like Durham aren't in but are still classed as one of the top universities) which only means they receive extra funding for research resources . Again this doesn't answer my question of how an appearance of a university affects how good it is.
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    (Original post by emiliee21)
    Inst Ivey league only applicable to the American institutions? and Red brick refers to the Russell group (which universities like Durham aren't in but are still classed as one of the top universities) which only means they receive extra funding for research resources . Again this doesn't answer my question of how an appearance of a university affects how good it is.
    In the three examples, universities are categorised by their physical appearance which in turn relates to architectural fashion at their foundation. That in turn dates them. It also tends to show the funding available to them, because well endowed universities built prestigious buildings. Ultimately academic reputation tends to come down to the combination of age and cash and very few institutions have been able to defy these two factors.

    Redbrick does not refer to the Russell Group. It is a much older term coined by a professor at Liverpool to describe a fictional large civic university in a provincial industrial city. Although some claim that the term is limited to universities created before WWI, there isn't really any warrant for this and really any University founded before the University of Surrey that exhibits the traits of the fictional university should be regarded as a redbrick. A number of Russell Group Universities (the London schools, Warwick, Oxbridge, Edinburgh and Glasgow) would not be considered redbricks and Exeter, Leicester and Reading of the 1994 Group would be. Durham, like Aberystwyth and Bangor would not normally have been regarded as redbrick.
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    I wish tsr had an auto-filter for idiotic threads.
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    I wish tsr had an auto-filter for idiotic threads.
    Then there'd be no threads....
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    Very overrated : Warwick, Durham, Nottingham, LSE, Newcastle.

    Somewhat overrated: Lancaster, Aston, Bath, York, Oxford, UCL, Edinburgh

    Underrated: Sussex, UEA, Notts Trent
 
 
 
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