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    Is it only me that believes this?

    We're facing cuts to build for the future yet these people only care about themselves without thinking about the long term impact if we never had cuts now.

    Its not only that but the fact that these cuts are not going to leave people in severe poverty or leave people struggling, yes they may have to budget a bit better, yes they may have to go without a luxury now and then that they could have previously afforded, but those are issues we all have to face together.

    In my opinion these people should be thankful that there is welfare in place that they can always fall back on, if the worst comes to the worst and that they will always have a roof over their heads, food on the table and clothes to keep them warm.

    These people are massively over exaggerating the impact of these cuts. There are people in the world struggling to survive every day who do not cause the mayhem that they have done today.

    To me its just a larger scale of ' the spoilt brat that attention seeks in order to get their own way '.

    Also, I can bet a lot of them are also the same people who blasted students for standing up against the tuition fee increase which was a lot more important. The tuition fee increase means people who want to go to university have to now take on board that they could have a massive amount of debt for the rest of their working lives. These cuts are not as severe, in any way at all.

    Okay, a lot of public sector jobs are being cut. However, that's Labours fault. They were the one who created occupations that weren't needed and didn't manage the public sector in the right way. I find it hypocritical of Miliband to slate the coalition yet its his own parties wrong doing that led to the mess in the first place. Now the coalition are trying to deal with this mess, they are trying to use it against them.

    Where were these people when Topshop and Vodafone were let off a massive tax bill? Nowhere to be seen because it didn't affect them on a personal level so they didn't care. Now the cuts may affect them due to them or relatives working in the public sector they care. Selfishness in my opinion.

    Japan has just gone through hell due to a natural disaster. People over there are struggling massively and living in poverty near enough yet over here people are in a far better position yet they still moan and expect more and more without realising why things need to be done as they lack any economic understanding.

    I also cannot stand how the media constantly use the word poor in this country. No one in this country is poor, not even those on the dole. They have sufficient enough money to live on and thats it. They have a roof put over their head by the taxpayer, they can claim money to spend on food and clothes as well. Poor is when you're struggling massively to be able to feed yourself. They are not poor. If they think they are then they seriously want to look at the people living in Eastern Europe still working in agriculture to live and count themselves lucky that in Britain they no longer need to do that to survive.

    I'm by no means a fan of the coalition or any of the parties in the UK but I believe that the coalition have done the right thing by addressing the absurd levels of money being wasted in the public sector.

    Seriously, people want to wake up and realise how fortunate we are that we do not live in a third world country and even with the harshest of cuts we can still depend on welfare. Some of the people in this country would be in for a serious shock had they been born in another country. The amount of greed and want is absurd.

    Plus no one even mentions the positives such as simplifying the tax system which in the long term will lead to less administration costs and funding for science facilities, 12 university technical colleges and more apprenticeships.

    Why don't they consider these? because of greed and selfish interests. Those same people should spare a moment for those in really bad situations and reflect on how lucky they are to be in the United Kingdom.
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    You haven't got a clue what you're talking about.
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    (Original post by garethDT)
    You haven't got a clue what you're talking about.
    and you wonder why you have so many neg reps? :facepalm:
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    (Original post by AreYouDizzeeBlud_x)
    and you wonder why you have so many neg reps? :facepalm:
    To be fair he is right. People are facing losing their jobs here thats a pretty major change and can lead to you be thrown out on the street.
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    (Original post by Aj12)
    To be fair he is right. People are facing losing their jobs here thats a pretty major change and can lead to you be thrown out on the street.
    thrown out on the street?

    if you lose your job in this country you can claim JSA.

    Therefore, you will always have a roof over your head and money to feed yourself.

    Why do people exaggerate?

    There are people living in far worse conditions in other parts of the world.
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    (Original post by garethDT)
    You haven't got a clue what you're talking about.
    How so?
    Do you not agree that the UK public sector is oversized?
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    (Original post by AreYouDizzeeBlud_x)
    these people only care about themselves without thinking about the long term impact if we never had cuts now.
    Humans are selfish by nature. Generosity and charity are only present when there is prosperity. Sure you may care about your close family more than you, but when it comes down to it, you care more about your life than a stranger on the street. It's a natural instinct which was advantageous for your ancestors, and so you, me, everyone has it!

    It's the same with un-renewable resources. We KNOW oil is running out but worldwide oil consumption is still going up. We KNOW there is global warming, but we still burn coal.

    We can't stop. Not until we have to.

    So we get stuck in the cycle of Labour spending s**t loads, everyone realising we're f**ked, voting Tory, feeling the pain of cut and voting Labour again.

    Complain all you like but one thing that the same with everyone is we all feel pain and when it comes down to it, you don't wanna be the guy who draws the short straw.
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    (Original post by Aj12)
    To be fair he is right. People are facing losing their jobs here thats a pretty major change and can lead to you be thrown out on the street.
    As OP says thrown out onto the street is an exaggeration. While it is true that people will be loosing their jobs as a result of government cuts that is an unfortunate consequence but doesnt stop the fact that the cuts being made are necessary in order to get this country's economy in order. The job losses that will occur are not caused by the current government who is simply doing what is necessary for the stability and continuity of the country, it is a long term problem which was created by the governments who got the economy into the state in which it is in.

    My heart goes out to the people who will be out of a job. It is an extremely unpleasant situation to be in but the government is and will do what it can to help these people to find new jobs and make a living for themselves, it is up to them to do what it takes and be flexible about what they are willing to do for it. There are jobs out there it just needs some flexibility and an ability and willingness to work hard.

    It wont be easy but if we pull together as a country instead of dividing and protesting which wont help anyone, we will get through and come out with a more efficient economy and infrastructure and a more united nation
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    (Original post by R92)
    How so?
    Do you not agree that the UK public sector is oversized?
    No I do not. Many of the people who are being made redundant have been working in the public sector long before new labour came to power. They are now going to be left on the scrap heap.
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    (Original post by garethDT)
    No I do not. Many of the people who are being made redundant have been working in the public sector long before new labour came to power. They are now going to be left on the scrap heap.
    thats Labours fault though.

    Labour were responsible for creating many places that weren't needed which led to the increase of the number of people employed within the public sector.

    Had Labour let growth continue properly then no where near as many jobs would be at risk of getting cut.

    Those that lose their jobs only have Labour to blame for creating too many jobs within the sector.
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    (Original post by AreYouDizzeeBlud_x)
    thats Labours fault though.

    Labour were responsible for creating many places that weren't needed which led to the increase of the number of people employed within the public sector.

    Had Labour let growth continue properly then no where near as many jobs would be at risk of getting cut.

    Those that lose their jobs only have Labour to blame for creating too many jobs within the sector.
    That's just a tory soundbite and you know it.

    It's not the menial pen pushers brought in post-97 that are being made redundant, the main cuts are axing middle aged people, many of whom will have spent their entire working lives in the public sector and will now find themselves humiliated, losing their homes because they can't pay their mortgages and having to sign on due to their poor employability because of both the lack of jobs in the private sector and their lack of experience within it.
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    The bottom line is that some people have to drown or we all do.

    Which is it to be?
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    (Original post by Bookmark)
    The bottom line is that some people have to drown or we all do.

    Which is it to be?
    Drown the bankers.
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    (Original post by garethDT)
    Drown the bankers.
    But why?? The credit crunch started in America, remember, like Gordon Brown said. UK banks were virtually conned into buying toxic debt from the Americans - they didn't know the debt was bad. Do you think they would have willingly taken it on if they had?
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    (Original post by Bookmark)
    But why?? The credit crunch started in America, remember, like Gordon Brown said. UK banks were virtually conned into buying toxic debt from the Americans - they didn't know the debt was bad. Do you think they would have willingly taken it on if they had?
    The bankers aren't personally liable, they're still getting their bonuses. I assure you, bankers do not care about the rest of us left to clear up their mess.
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    (Original post by garethDT)
    The bankers aren't personally liable, they're still getting their bonuses. I assure you, bankers do not care about the rest of us left to clear up their mess.
    The bankers pay 50% tax on their bonuses - more than the 28% that banks pay in corporation tax. When you hear about a banker getting a £2 million bonus they're actually getting £1 million. The other million goes towards public services.
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    (Original post by garethDT)
    The bankers aren't personally liable, they're still getting their bonuses. I assure you, bankers do not care about the rest of us left to clear up their mess.
    i agree with you on this.

    however, whether we like it or not, the government and the bankers will always have the last word as we live under a dictatorship in theory.

    protests are not going to work in this modern society so we should just face it and get on with it rather than stress and cause carnage.
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    (Original post by Bookmark)
    The bankers pay 50% tax on their bonuses - more than the 28% that banks pay in corporation tax. When you hear about a banker getting a £2 million bonus they're actually getting £1 million. The other million goes towards public services.
    Tell that to the people losing their £20k per year jobs because we 'can't afford it'.
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    (Original post by AreYouDizzeeBlud_x)
    i agree with you on this.

    however, whether we like it or not, the government and the bankers will always have the last word as we live under a dictatorship in theory.

    protests are not going to work in this modern society so we should just face it and get on with it rather than stress and cause carnage.
    Absolutely, which is why society needs to change. The only power the bankers and politicians have over us is what we give to them. Even if they achieve nothing else, at least the protests will have woken a lot of people up to the reality of our exploitation.
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    (Original post by garethDT)
    Absolutely, which is why society needs to change. The only power the bankers and politicians have over us is what we give to them. Even if they achieve nothing else, at least the protests will have woken a lot of people up to the reality of our exploitation.
    but they haven't to be honest.

    the only thing that could make an impact in this day and age is a death, as sickening and sad as it is.

    no politicians or bankers care because they still get paid and their bonuses and can fiddle expenses without a problem. we all know its going on, but putting it to an end to it is a lot harder because they are in power.
 
 
 
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