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    Are they both the same? Like would the state be the government, i.e. the coalition?

    Please help, :cry2:

    Thanks a bunch
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    Yeah I would say they are the same.
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    (Original post by Aj12)
    Yeah I would say they are the same.
    How sure are you?
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    (Original post by c0nfus3d)
    How sure are you?
    Fairly sure. Wait for other posters to confirm though.
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    I think they are subtly different in as much as that the state usually refers to the entire governing body of England, while the government is something that changes every five years. The government is the controlling force of the state.
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    No, the Government is only part of the state.
    The state is made up of three fundamental parts:
    The Government.
    The Legislature.
    The Executives.
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    (Original post by MathematicsKiller)
    No, the Government is only part of the state.
    The state is made up of three fundamental parts:
    The Government.
    The Legislature.
    The Executives
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    What does that mean^ ?

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    Government - the core executive that is responsible for the enforcement of decisions.

    Civil service - the implementers and enforcers of policy and providers of services (includes Armed Forces and Diplomatic Corps)

    Legislature - holds both of these to account.
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    (Original post by gladders)
    Government - the core executive that is responsible for the enforcement of decisions.

    Civil service - the implementers and enforcers of policy and providers of services (includes Armed Forces and Diplomatic Corps)

    Legislature - holds both of these to account.
    Thankyou!! :cool: :cool: :cool: Will give rep in an hour or two to those who helped me

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    This should explain it all:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separat...three_branches
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    (Original post by MathematicsKiller)
    This should explain it all:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separat...three_branches
    Thanks!
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    The government is the three branches (Sovereign/PM and Cabinet, Parliament, the Supreme Court), and the state is the institutions. So things like government departments, the NHS, etc.
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    (Original post by rajandkwameali)
    The government is the three branches (Sovereign/PM and Cabinet, Parliament, the Supreme Court), and the state is the institutions. So things like government departments, the NHS, etc.
    All the other posters are saying that the government forms part of the state and the state is divided into three branches :awesome:
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    No. The state is everything state-provided, including things like embassies and the NHS.
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    SO Britain is a sovereign state?
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    (Original post by Planar)
    No. The state is everything state-provided, including things like embassies and the NHS.
    is that the same as a sovereign state?
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    (Original post by c0nfus3d)
    SO Britain is a sovereign state?
    No, it's a colony/depedent territory.
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    (Original post by rajandkwameali)
    No, it's a colony/depedent territory.
    is it a unitary state?
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    (Original post by c0nfus3d)
    is it a unitary state?
    Yes, but sovereign states and unitary states aren't necessarily mutually exclusive.

    Edit: basically it's both.
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    (Original post by c0nfus3d)
    Are they both the same? Like would the state be the government, i.e. the coalition?

    Please help, :cry2:

    Thanks a bunch
    It depends on which context you're referring to.


    In academia, modern usage of 'state' tends to refer to the nation-state which is bounded land over which a government excercises territoriality. A government ruling a nation of people within a bounded space.

    When the general public (and in most cases, politicians too) refer to the state, they're usually simply referring to the government on its own as a separate entity to the nation i.e. in the case of 'state welfare provision', 'rolling back the state' etc.

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    (Original post by c0nfus3d)
    is that the same as a sovereign state?
    When people say 'sovereign state' they're referring to my first definition, governmental rule over a geographic area and all those who reside within its boundaries.
 
 
 
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