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    (Original post by Duckelf)
    That isn't neo-conservatism.
    Although Neo-conservatism has traditionally been concerned with matters of foreign policy; the social aspect of Neo-conservatism has stressed the importance of retaining 'family values' as expressed by American conservatives such as Reagan and traditional 'christian' values as espoused by neo-conservatives such as thatcher.
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    (Original post by JIRAIYA-ERO-SENNIN)
    Although Neo-conservatism has traditionally been concerned with matters of foreign policy; the social aspect of Neo-conservatism has stressed the importance of retaining 'family values' as expressed by American conservatives such as Reagan and traditional 'christian' values as espoused by neo-conservatives such as thatcher.
    I was at a Conservative Party meeting a couple weeks ago and to be honest, none of this 'family values' stuff is really being used on the grass roots level.

    One speaker though, did speak at length about 'conserving the British constitution'; which I think is the only true 'conservative' belief held within the party, to a large degree. So I suppose Cameron falls into that camp: he's an economic and social Liberal, and constitutional Conservative. You can see this with how he is against a chance from First Past the Post to Alternative Vote, or how he opposes Proportional Representation, and he opposes (in principal) the EU.

    Most Tories fall into this camp; well, at least ones that I know anyway.
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    (Original post by lukas1051)
    I mean if you compare us to say, the USA, there is a clear right wing and left wing party over there, one with very liberal views and one with very conservative views. That's not really the case in the UK.
    That's the biggest load of nonsense I've read all week.

    (Original post by Bubbles*de*Milo)
    Is the Pope a Catholic?
    Was Jesus a Christian...?

    If a bear ****s in the woods, and no-one's ever around to see it, is he a real bear?

    4am profundity.
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    (Original post by JIRAIYA-ERO-SENNIN)
    He ran his 2010 campaign on a platform of 'change'.

    Do you really think David Cameron is a conservative?
    The change he spoke of was the deregulating of the business community, lowering taxes for businesses and cutting back the public sector a sector that is bloated and ineffeicent. This is good change, yes he could do more change but what we are getting is good enough for me as it is sorting out our countries economy and finances.

    So yes he is a conservative just not in the way it is in the US, Republicanism is what we need over here (although they can keep the Tea Party, bunch of loonies). but we won't get that until we have no royal family.


    (Original post by L i b)
    Was Jesus a Christian...?
    No he was Jewish... at least at birth.
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    Firstly, the Conservative Party can easily campaign on change. On the basis of changing things back.

    But anyway, as for David Cameron... I think he is a Conservative by name, but not by nature. To me he seems very centre-right, and at times goes over to the left-side. I don't think he is conservative when it comes to social and moral aspects. For instance, the government want to make churches allow homosexuals to get married in there. That seems very radical, and something that only a left-wing party would do. Imagine Thatcher coming up with that. As for Cameron and his government's economics; I think it is a joke. But then in other cases, he is making taxes higher for a range of people, when in fact, a conservative government should have a basis of lowering taxes. And with these service cuts, plus raising taxes at the same time, this makes things worse. This simply makes people poorer. If services are going to be cut, then taxes should be kept the same or lowered. Lowering taxes would simply make up for the cuts, giving people's money back. When I looked at the new budget, the taxes were shocking. Plus, I was astonished to see that the government has increased spending in so many other and new areas! And how can they do that when they have been cutting so much. Cameron is just so confusing in relation to the economy. He is neither socialist or conservative. It is all very zig-zagged, and he seems inefficient to me.
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    (Original post by lukas1051)
    Honestly, British policits nowadays have very little to do with Conservativism vs Liberalism, and left/right wing idealogies. I mean if you compare us to say, the USA, there is a clear right wing and left wing party over there, one with very liberal views and one with very conservative views. That's not really the case in the UK. The Tories are certainly conservative in some respects, and more so than Labour and the Lib Dems, but not to a massive extent.
    What? the democrats are more right wing than the tories over here
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    I think we can all agree that, no matter what his political affinity is, he's a ****er
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    (Original post by S129439)
    i agree. in fact i would argue that labour is even further from it's original beliefs than the conservative party.
    I don't know, I don't see the Tories calling for a return to absolutism under King Franz von Bayern that often or decrying the Hanoverian Succession. Could just be me though, I might have missed all the times they condemned the damnable Hapsburgs.
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    (Original post by Fusilero)
    I don't know, I don't see the Tories calling for a return to absolutism under King Franz von Bayern that often or decrying the Hanoverian Succession. Could just be me though, I might have missed all the times they condemned the damnable Hapsburgs.
    Lol. I don't literally mean it's conception, I mean the old traditional policies that were once so dominant. For example Thatcherism.
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    He's a commie liberal zionist
 
 
 
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