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    (Original post by History-Student)
    Older doesn't always mean better.
    Neither does "newer" makes it better either. Your point is?
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    (Original post by im so academic)
    And I'm guessing "those politicians" makes it even worse. Seemingly as a significant proportion of politicians nowadays went to Oxbridge; people assume they act like them.
    It's about 33%. Just for info :P Quite a high proportion indeed.
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    (Original post by im so academic)
    Neither does "newer" makes it better either. Your point is?
    Well if older doesn't always equal better, why should people at older unis be justified in feeling arrogant compared to people at the other one?
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    (Original post by TwilightKnight)
    3 People I knew last year applied to Oxford [1] and Cambridge [2]. All 3 of them also applied to Durham.

    By Christmas, they had all been rejected from Oxbridge and were awaiting a decision from Durham. Their attitude seemed to change overnight. One minute, they were praising Oxbridge as the best thing ever, so super shiny and fantabulous that nothing could ever compare; the next day, it's a ****hole that only posh kids get into and is massively overrated.

    A year later, I'm still in contact with all of them, and when I asked how it compares to Oxbridge, their response hasn't changed "SO MUCH BETTER" etc. They've also changed into d-bags, but that's another story.

    Now, here's the thing. Durham isn't a bad University at all. It's a great university. But it, along with universities like Imperial/UCL are 80% of the time under the name "Oxford" "Cambridge" on someones UCAS. They're backups in-case those people don't get into Oxbridge, whereas the other 20% apply to Durham, Imperial, UCL etc knowing that they are great Unis to begin with.

    I hate hypocrites. If you applied to Oxbridge, you wanted to go there. There's a lot of self delusion on this forum that once you're rejected from Oxbridge, you never wanted to go there, it was bad anyway, etc. XXXX University is so much better...

    I got rejected like a *****. That doesn't change my opinion that they're fantastic universities. Once you get that rejection, you should really realise that it isn't the end of the world, and make the best of the opportunity you have, without deluding
    yourself. I still have hopes that I will get to do some sort of Postgraduate study there.

    That was a bit of a tangent, but it's been something that's been bugging me for a long time on TSR.
    I agree with this. Admittedly I still show a bit of animosity towards Bristol uni for the manner in which they handle their admissions but still can admit it's a good university.
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    (Original post by History-Student)
    Well if older doesn't always equal better, why should people at older unis be justified in feeling arrogant compared to people at the other one?
    Oxford > Brookes
    Cambridge > Anglia Ruskin
    Nottingham > Trent
    Southampton > Solent
    Bristol > UWE
    Manchester > Met
    Leeds > Met
    Liverpool > Hope

    etc etc
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    (Original post by im so academic)
    Oxford > Brookes
    Cambridge > Anglia Ruskin
    Nottingham > Trent
    Southampton > Solent
    Bristol > UWE
    Manchester > Met
    Leeds > Met
    Liverpool > Hope

    etc etc

    Westminster > Imperial ?!?!
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    (Original post by im so academic)
    The ****? They are in no place to be arrogant.



    Why were they at Hope for?
    I'm so glad nobody on here actually listens to you. You're arrogant, selfish, opinionated, prejudiced and, not that you'd think it judging by your opinions of yourself, pretty uneducated. Not academically, maybe, but you have no idea about REAL people who lead REAL lives.

    For you, if it isn't in a textbook, it isn't real. I don't want to hear from you again, because I really do find you that annoying. Don't bother replying.
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    Cambridge.
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    (Original post by Gemma :)!)
    I'm so glad nobody on here actually listens to you. You're arrogant, selfish, opinionated, prejudiced and, not that you'd think it judging by your opinions of yourself, pretty uneducated. Not academically, maybe, but you have no idea about REAL people who lead REAL lives.

    For you, if it isn't in a textbook, it isn't real. I don't want to hear from you again, because I really do find you that annoying. Don't bother replying.
    ISA got told :K:
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    (Original post by im so academic)
    No:

    Imperial > Westminster.
    But I thought you said older was better

    Westminster 1838 and 1992

    Imperial 1907 and 2007
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    (Original post by Gemma :)!)
    I'm so glad nobody on here actually listens to you. You're arrogant, selfish, opinionated, prejudiced and, not that you'd think it judging by your opinions of yourself, pretty uneducated. Not academically, maybe, but you have no idea about REAL people who lead REAL lives.

    For you, if it isn't in a textbook, it isn't real. I don't want to hear from you again, because I really do find you that annoying. Don't bother replying.
    Ouch, to be fair to her, it's other people that build up that reputation of her, not her herself. She mostly actually makes reasonable posts, just expressed a bit poorly. A year ago I'd have agreed with you but you're being ridiculously harsh, the vast majority on TSR like her now, and rightly so.
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    (Original post by nulli tertius)
    But I thought you said older was better

    Westminster 1838 and 1992

    Imperial 1907 and 2007
    Oh, you found an exception
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    (Original post by TwilightKnight)
    3 People I knew last year applied to Oxford [1] and Cambridge [2]. All 3 of them also applied to Durham.

    I hate hypocrites. If you applied to Oxbridge, you wanted to go there. There's a lot of self delusion on this forum that once you're rejected from Oxbridge, you never wanted to go there, it was bad anyway, etc. XXXX University is so much better...

    I got rejected like a *****. That doesn't change my opinion that they're fantastic universities. Once you get that rejection, you should really realise that it isn't the end of the world, and make the best of the opportunity you have, without deluding yourself. I still have hopes that I will get to do some sort of Postgraduate study there.

    That was a bit of a tangent, but it's been something that's been bugging me for a long time on TSR.
    I'll be honest, I am one of those Oxford rejects planning on going to Durham. And obviously I did want to go there very much - if I'd got an offer from them I would have accepted it in a second. I'm not going to claim Durham is better academically either, however what I will say is that, in retrospect, going to Durham might actually be the better university for me personally to go to. I know that I can get stressed over always wanting to perform best etc, and that if I don't go out and socialise I can start to feel quite bad. Oxford quite possibly would have brought out the worst in me in that respect, so possibly for me, Durham is the better university. Perhaps when they say this, what they actually mean is that it offers them the better experience?

    (I'm not saying that nobody at Oxford has a social life, manages the stress well etc obviously - only that some people would find this difficult. I know that some people have an amazing time there and for them it's the better option in every respect.)
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    Oh, you found an exception
    Yes I know I did but I'm having a little sport
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    (Original post by dentistry1)
    Oh, you found an exception
    So you'd agree that all students at older unis (exceptions excluded) are justified in being arrogant towards people at the other uni in their city?
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    Cambridge.
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    (Original post by Trapezium)
    Ouch, to be fair to her, it's other people that build up that reputation of her, not her herself. She mostly actually makes reasonable posts, just expressed a bit poorly. A year ago I'd have agreed with you but you're being ridiculously harsh, the vast majority on TSR like her now, and rightly so.
    I agree that people go on about her a lot, but her post was insensitive.
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    (Original post by im so academic)
    Oxford > Brookes
    Cambridge > Anglia Ruskin
    Nottingham > Trent
    Southampton > Solent
    Bristol > UWE
    Manchester > Met
    Leeds > Met
    Liverpool > Hope

    etc etc
    I don't quite understand why you are so obsessed with individual univeristies and relative prestige - there are various reasons people end up at different institutions - you remind me of one of those people who seem to think the choices they make on ucas will decide their entire future, and that the place they spend three years studying will override any future efforts in life. Plently of succesful and bright people go to what you percieve as lesser universities - the founder of B&Q went to Solent, MPs have gone to Leeds Met and one of the most famous lawyers in the UK (Mr Loophole) graduated from Trent. There is more to somebody's makeup than the choices they made at 16,17,18! I understand you are obsessed with certain universities, but viewing everybody through the narrow prism of university destination is blinkered and pointless - at the end of the day, everywhere is simply bricks and morter.
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    (Original post by History-Student)
    So you'd agree that all students at older unis (exceptions excluded) are justified in being arrogant towards people at the other uni in their city?
    No.

    Where did you get that idea from? I didn't imply that in the slightest
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    (Original post by History-Student)
    So you'd agree that all students at older unis (exceptions excluded) are justified in being arrogant towards people at the other uni in their city?
    Er No!



    All roses are red and roses are the prettiest flowers.


    Some roses are yellow


    That's an exception


    Yes


    So you are saying that all roses (apart from yellow ones) are the prettiest flowers
 
 
 
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