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    (Original post by The_Lonely_Goatherd)
    I don't think you'd necessarily get more viewpoints in a small group seminar. From all I've seen and heard about them, the same amount of people talk in them as would at an Oxford tutorial. Oxford seminars also fall into that category. Aside from when they turn into shouting matches :rofl:

    I don't think there is a universal best anyhow, since there's no one thing that would suit everyone best. I think the system is quite different to seminars and do think lots of people could benefit from the tutorial/supervision system though and it's a shame that it's an exception rather than the norm in UK universities :yes:
    I think what would work best is a mix of the two. One on one sessions are definitely very useful and good for getting pinpoint feedback, but there's something to be said for seminars, too!
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    (Original post by Jack.O)
    I think what would work best is a mix of the two. One on one sessions are definitely very useful and good for getting pinpoint feedback, but there's something to be said for seminars, too!
    Oh definitely Like I say though, we have seminars too! I think it's a shame more unis don't have tutorials as well. A mix of both is very good for the academic soul :yes:
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    (Original post by comrade_jon)
    I was originally gonna post on here just to do some casual Cambridge > Oxford banter, but then again boat race and all that so... better not. However reading the posts thought I'd stick my oar in.

    There are two misconceptions about Oxbridge: the first one is that they are the be-all-and-end-all of good education and career prospects. Clearly they're not. Then there's the other side: that Oxbridge are somehow 'declining'. Oxbridge are here to stay, no other UK university in our lifetimes will be worth as much as Oxford or Cambridge on a CV generally speaking (and that includes Imperial/Warwick for maths). They are amazing for many good reasons, from straight ol' history to the huge amount of money the colleges sit on and have to play around with as well as the universities themselves.

    Oxbridge has a work mentality which is unique. No other UK university has the short terms, the short deadlines and in turn the incredible facilities that are in place to support those hard-working individuals. 114 libraries for Cambridge alone including a copy-library and some of the best specialist libraries in the world, I'm sure the figure for Oxford is similarly spectacular.

    You go to Oxbridge, you go to university with many normal smart people like you do at other universities, you also go to university with some of the people who will change tomorrow's world, as you would at any other good university. But there are more of the latter at Oxbridge because that incredible work-hard-play-hard mentality is enstilled in such a way that it will for a long time yet be worth an awful lot on your CV.

    In terms of the OP's point though, there are many amazing universities in the UK. Undergrad is just the start though, you can always come back to Oxbridge later.
    yeah, tabs got smashed in the boat race. unlucky.
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    (Original post by The_Lonely_Goatherd)
    Oh definitely Like I say though, we have seminars too! I think it's a shame more unis don't have tutorials as well. A mix of both is very good for the academic soul :yes:
    That would be the best option by far.

    Sorry if it seemed like I was attacking the tutorial system, I was just looking forward to arguing with im_so_academic!
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    (Original post by kerily)
    :awesome: Really?

    I hadn't heard of UCL until about a year ago and I didn't know that ICL was really good until about a year ago. But it's kind of hard to read a paper/turn on the news on results day/etc without hearing that Oxford and Cambridge are 'good'. Out of interest, how did you manage not to have heard of Cambridge?
    Same here, pretty much.

    The only universities I really knew anything about were St. Andrews, Oxford, Cambridge and Durham, and then the local universities that people from my college went to, like Northumbria, Teeside, Sunderland etc.

    Until I started researching places, I had no idea how good some other universities were, yet we rarely hear anything about them. I suppose people only know Oxford, Cambs and then a few local ones.

    If I met someone now, who studied at Imperial I'd be impressed but this time last year, I'd be like what? Where's that? Same with LSE, I had no idea there were so many universities that are held in such esteem. I suppose only the really old and respected universities like Oxbridge are well known.
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    (Original post by therealOG)
    No. And I'm not telling you which school I go to. But it is a state grammar school
    Latymer?
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    Latymer?
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    who cares. Oxbridge is well respected just because it's old. If you're good at what you do and put effort in, the difference between uni's is irrelevant.
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    (Original post by im so academic)
    Define "special", as, generally speaking, Oxbridge students are the crème de la crème.
    They're smart, I'm not disputing that. But I don't think they're any better on average than UCL/LSE/Imperial students
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    Ahhh, I'm sorry. tried to pos rep you, but I clicked the wrong button by mistake Sorry, I will correct it when TSR lets me rep you again
    I probably deserved the negative for such a terrible pun thank you very much for the future rep though

    (Original post by Abbadon27)
    They're smart, I'm not disputing that. But I don't think they're any better on average than UCL/LSE/Imperial students
    The more intensive manner of work at Oxbridge would dispute that I feel
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    I think a lot of Oxbridge students would envy you for not having such a huge workload. You can get a fantastic degree from many other institutions which employers will see along similar lines in terms of prestige as one from Oxbridge. Not everyone can get into Oxbridge because there simply aren't enough places - but that doesn't mean they didn't deserve to. So they fill up the places at other universities like Durham and LSE and make the universities almost, if not just as, great as Oxford and Cambridge.
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    (Original post by ilickbatteries)
    Same here, pretty much.

    The only universities I really knew anything about were St. Andrews, Oxford, Cambridge and Durham, and then the local universities that people from my college went to, like Northumbria, Teeside, Sunderland etc.

    Until I started researching places, I had no idea how good some other universities were, yet we rarely hear anything about them. I suppose people only know Oxford, Cambs and then a few local ones.

    If I met someone now, who studied at Imperial I'd be impressed but this time last year, I'd be like what? Where's that? Same with LSE, I had no idea there were so many universities that are held in such esteem. I suppose only the really old and respected universities like Oxbridge are well known.
    I totally agree with you, and I think that's the problem. Well, not really a problem, but they key factor. More or less everyone has heard of Oxford and Cambridge because they're always splashed across the front of the newspapers and because they're the old, traditional universities. A year ago, before I applied to Oxford, I almost cried at the thought of not getting in because I thought it was the only place to be. And then I actually started looking at universities and names like UCL and LSE started popping up and naive little me starts thinking: "oh wait, Oxbridge isn't everything. There are other fantastic institutions, just they get overshadowed a bit." I'm glad I came to that realisation before I got rejected from Oxford because otherwise I would have been unnecessarily gutted.
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    (Original post by LornaSandison1)
    I think a lot of Oxbridge students would envy you for not having such a huge workload. You can get a fantastic degree from many other institutions which employers will see along similar lines in terms of prestige as one from Oxbridge. Not everyone can get into Oxbridge because there simply aren't enough places - but that doesn't mean they didn't deserve to. So they fill up the places at other universities like Durham and LSE and make the universities almost, if not just as, great as Oxford and Cambridge.
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    (Original post by comrade_jon)
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    The more intensive manner of work at Oxbridge would dispute that I feel
    I'm not knocking your opinion cos obv you'll know more about Oxbridge than me, but the workload at places like Durham, ICL, LSE etc must be very, very similar to, if not the same as the workload at Oxbridge.
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    (Original post by kerily)

    I take it you're in Scotland, though? (Or Ireland perhaps, I guess.) I'm guessing this guy is English. Although he might not be :dontknow:

    I don't think it's important in all places - hell, it's looked on as some mythical place for posh people, totally unobtainable to normal people, by most people I know - but I had presumed most people would at least have heard of it
    You're correct, I am from northern Scotland.
    I'd agree with the point in bold. As no one is encouraged to think about English unis, which is made worse by the fact that no Oxbridge alumni etc live/work there. So it's faraway place/idea to most people. Also extremely poor resources/teaching of Advanced Highers (our "A2"s). eg. I received 3 hours of classes a week for Physics. And the FIRST set of study guides for AH were only published this year!
    Free tuition fees for Scots in Scotland probably encourages us to stay domiciled in Scotland too :lol: (Especially now they're tripling in England )
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    (Original post by ilickbatteries)
    I'm not knocking your opinion cos obv you'll know more about Oxbridge than me, but the workload at places like Durham, ICL, LSE etc must be very, very similar to, if not the same as the workload at Oxbridge.
    Bull****, Oxbridge have shorter terms.
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    (Original post by LornaSandison1)
    I totally agree with you, and I think that's the problem. Well, not really a problem, but they key factor. More or less everyone has heard of Oxford and Cambridge because they're always splashed across the front of the newspapers and because they're the old, traditional universities. A year ago, before I applied to Oxford, I almost cried at the thought of not getting in because I thought it was the only place to be. And then I actually started looking at universities and names like UCL and LSE started popping up and naive little me starts thinking: "oh wait, Oxbridge isn't everything. There are other fantastic institutions, just they get overshadowed a bit." I'm glad I came to that realisation before I got rejected from Oxford because otherwise I would have been unnecessarily gutted.
    That presumes you can afford to live in London of course.
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    (Original post by im so academic)
    Bull****, Oxbridge have shorter terms.
    Barely, Durham's is 27, only 2 more.

    Put it this way, for the majority of courses at the very best universities, they ask for very similar (if not higher) grades than Oxford and Cambridge.

    Places like ICL and Durham are full of students who would do just as well at Oxbridge.
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    (Original post by Mick Travis)
    That presumes you can afford to live in London of course.
    Yes, that's true. A problem I'm having to face at the moment!
    However, UCL and LSE were just examples that happened to be in London. There is of course Durham, St. Andrews etc as well.
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    (Original post by comrade_jon)
    The more intensive manner of work at Oxbridge would dispute that I feel
    People doing some random course at Oxbridge aren't the only students who work super-duper hard you know. I'm sure us minion medical, vet, dental, engineering, chemistry etc students at numerous other universities are working pretty, if not more, damn hard.
 
 
 
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