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    I've completely killed any chance of me needing an ID card just to leave my house.
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    You can't really blame lib dem voters. The policies they are helping to support now are pretty much the opposite of what they campaigned the election on.
    I realise that they are the smaller party in the coalition, so need to compromise. But the work compromise does not been throwing away all your ideas, policies and beliefs in the hope of getting a very watered down one (AV) through.
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    None really. I massively regret voting lib dem. Never again.
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    Lib Dem and Tory voters, especially Lib Dem, should be pretty pissed off with themselves. Many Lib Dem voters voted for them due to the potential decrease in tuition, however they were too short-sighted to realise that in many constituencies across the country, the fight was onyl between Labour and Tory. Says a lot that Lib Dems gained less seats last year than in '05.
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    (Original post by jcockerill1)
    however they were too short-sighted to realise that in many constituencies across the country, the fight was onyl between Labour and Tory.
    In a lot of constituencies, it was a fight between Lib Dem and Tory (especially in the south west of England).

    Now, while I am annoying that I voted Lib Dem having seen what they are doing, having some lib dems in power is better than having a purely Tory government.
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    (Original post by davidr123)
    I find it hilarious anyone thinks Labour are the party for working class people - its packed full of career politicians who shamelessly line their own pockets whilst blowing money on unsustainable jobs to spin unemployment figures and win votes.

    Milliband comparing the Coalition having to clear up after Labour by making cuts to apartheid and the suffragettes at the last rally made me want to throw up - he is a disgrace. Sadly its the morons and the naive who vote for these charlatans, little realising how much money they are making...

    If all Labour Mp's capped their salaries at £60k, multi-millionaire elite-private school educated Tony Blair donated 50% of his investment portfolio to poor people who took mortgages while employed in the non-jobs he was part of creating - they'd get my vote everytime. Mind you Blair is too busy raking it in from after-dinner speaking and greasing his sons up teh US investment bank network....Bob Crowe is stoking up the union furor behins his £250k basic salary.

    Champagne socialists, anyone who supports them is a mug.
    While I do partly agree with you, despite all that, they are still a better choice than the lib dems and the Tories.
    As for MP's - you do realise their salary is around £65k anyway right? So capping it at £60k really isn't going to do anything.
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    (Original post by jcockerill1)
    Many Lib Dem voters voted for them due to the potential decrease in tuition,
    No they didn't.
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    (Original post by jcockerill1)
    Lib Dem and Tory voters, especially Lib Dem, should be pretty pissed off with themselves. Many Lib Dem voters voted for them due to the potential decrease in tuition, however they were too short-sighted to realise that in many constituencies across the country, the fight was onyl between Labour and Tory. Says a lot that Lib Dems gained less seats last year than in '05.
    Most Tory voters knew what they were voting for. Cameron was pretty clear on it.
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    (Original post by jcockerill1)
    Many Lib Dem voters voted for them due to the potential decrease in tuition
    Nope.
    Although that was one of the reasons, there were also others.
    The reasons why I voted lib dem, apart from tuition fees, are below.

    The fact that I agreed we needed change, but it was too risky to cut as much and as fast as the Tories were suggesting (and as this government is now doing).

    The fact that I agreed with the idea that the minimum wage should not discriminate on age (how is it fair that an 18 year old doing exactly the same job as a 22 year old is viewing as "less"). Age does not mean experience or competence.

    The fact I agree that school league tables need to be reformed or scrapped.

    The fact that dementia research was mentioned in their manifesto.

    The fact that they wanted to review funding to the WAG and scottish government. While I realise this could have meant the funding could have gone either way, the Barnett formula needs to be replacement as it hugely underfunds both governments.

    And their policies on train fares and rail companies (re-opening of smaller branch lines and forcing fare reductions).
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    (Original post by gonzalez7)
    I am honestly pissed off with all these Lid Dem and Tory voters protesting against cuts when they are the ones that caused it!
    Er, what Tory and Lib Dem voters are protesting about cuts? We may object to specific cuts, but I think we've accepted that cuts more widely are to happen - just as Labour voters did.

    (Original post by Jarowi)
    The money saved by eradicating all unjust benefit claims would be less than 10% of the money saved by eradicating tax avoidance and fraud. Something Cameron has failed to mention to my disappointment.
    Well, yes, I imagine it would be - why, though, would we want to eradicate tax avoidance, in essence imposing considerably higher taxes on people? Tax fraud, by all means, but legal tax avoidance is fine; diddling one's benefit payments is not.
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    (Original post by L i b)
    Er, what Tory and Lib Dem voters are protesting about cuts? We may object to specific cuts, but I think we've accepted that cuts more widely are to happen - just as Labour voters did.
    Certainly not tory voters - because they knew exactly what they were getting.
    Lib dem voters on the other hand ...
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    What have a I gained? Less debt to pay off~
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    (Original post by Jarowi)
    I think that it's fair to say that all parties acknowledged the need for cuts and generally reduction in spending. It's the way that each party proposed to go about doing this that differed, as well as the proposals on how to regenerate income.

    As someone who hasn't voted, and doesn't really trust any one party, this is how I see it, and I reckon pretty fair.

    Conservatives: Fairly direct and honest about what they were going to do concerning cuts etc. Lose credibility in that they make out at election time that they stand for everyone in the uk from all classes etc, when really they don't. As soon as they get into government they reestablish that they are the party of the upper and upper-middle classes.


    Labour: Often a bit too idealistic but not in general; look at the numerous successes in development of public services and instituions in the Blair/Brown era. Lost credibility during the election due to a disliked PM, some dodgy decisions during the credit crunch, ( debatable however, as most other governments in the world envy the decisions of Gordon Brown ), and due to competing with fresher faced, more ambitious parties who had the bonus of being able to be hyper critical.

    Lib-Dems: Well... there is nothing to say seeing as they haven't done anything worth noting, aside from betraying their own voters.
    I recon thats pretty fair too. I pick labor because they are the best of a bad bunch.

    Anyone who thinks that the debt would be any lower if the conservatives were in power earlier (in my opinion) is a bit silly. None of the major parties ever had any policies regarding debt untill the recession. Labor would have introduced cuts too if they got re-elected, but perhapse not so drastic (and maybe with less impact on the less well off people).

    Also people who think its labors fault there was a recessionin the first place have perhapse missed the word "global" in the global recession, or maybe have a very distorted view of the UKs importance to the world economy!
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    A reduced chance of a soverign debt crisis
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    (Original post by WelshBluebird)
    Nope.
    Although that was one of the reasons, there were also others.
    The reasons why I voted lib dem, apart from tuition fees, are below.

    The fact that I agreed we needed change, but it was too risky to cut as much and as fast as the Tories were suggesting (and as this government is now doing).

    The fact that I agreed with the idea that the minimum wage should not discriminate on age (how is it fair that an 18 year old doing exactly the same job as a 22 year old is viewing as "less"). Age does not mean experience or competence.

    The fact I agree that school league tables need to be reformed or scrapped.

    The fact that dementia research was mentioned in their manifesto.

    The fact that they wanted to review funding to the WAG and scottish government. While I realise this could have meant the funding could have gone either way, the Barnett formula needs to be replacement as it hugely underfunds both governments.

    And their policies on train fares and rail companies (re-opening of smaller branch lines and forcing fare reductions).
    You aren't most voters.
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    (Original post by Aj12)
    Most Tory voters knew what they were voting for. Cameron was pretty clear on it.
    Pretty sure that's why I said especially Lib Dem...
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    (Original post by WelshBluebird)
    While I do partly agree with you, despite all that, they are still a better choice than the lib dems and the Tories.
    As for MP's - you do realise their salary is around £65k anyway right? So capping it at £60k really isn't going to do anything.
    Ha ha ha...and the rest. THe average MP costs £100,000 extra in expenses!

    Labour MP's consistently come in highest paid when you top up the consulting, expenses and other complete nonsense - backhanders for advising private corporations on plannign policy (they are worse than the conservatives!)

    If they just stuck to £60k and refused to take any further money for doing public duty - they'd have my vote on principal by proving they are there for socialist ideals and to represent the great majority of average/lower paid people.

    Sadly they are all uber-capitalist career politicians, who'd just as soon switch allegiances.

    Just because you can't stomach the reality of the world economy and vote Conservative - doesn't mean you should support a bunch of crooks - htey ar enot the other side of politics - they are just scam artists.
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    (Original post by davidr123)
    Ha ha ha...and the rest. THe average MP costs £100,000 extra in expenses!

    Labour MP's consistently come in highest paid when you top up the consulting, expenses and other complete nonsense - backhanders for advising private corporations on plannign policy (they are worse than the conservatives!)
    Expenses are not part of the salary though. And MP's from all parties are guilty of piss taking in that regard.

    As for consulting etc - there is nothing stopping anyone from doing things on the side that are not related to their main job.

    Personally, I would say all MP's (or nearly all) are there for their careers / the money, rather than anything else. I don't think that is limited to Labour, or any one party.
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    I love how only 1 person has answered my question

    So any advances on keeping the 'rif raf' out of University?
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    "Only" one person has answered because, ultimately, its a stupid question. Also your OP has 0% factual content
 
 
 
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