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    (Original post by Sovr'gnChancellor£)
    In other words, "losing yourself", or like being hypnotized or not being in control - I hate all of that.

    People know my personality - I have nothing to hide - why would I need alcohol to aid me in something that I have no need of? I want my frontal lobe to be performing highly at all times, not temporarily shut down by alcohol.

    The picture I get of alcohol is losing oneself, not being in control - am I right? I hate that.
    people respond differently. what would go through my head if i'm contemplating whether or not to say something would be something like "fuckkkkkkk thatttttt!!" and i'd say it. it's not like something else is controlling you - you're just more spontaneous and impulsive.
    but man it's cool if that's not for you - but don't treat everybody who does like to drink like they're wasters and just accept that people like to get a bit drunk at times. surely you've heard enough? it's enough from me, i gotta hit the hay, the rest of this thread should be a good read tomorrow
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    (Original post by SteveCrain)
    I'll tell you why you can't answer it; it's because when you admit that happiness is the only logical goal in life your theory about "internal, external essences" is blown out the window.
    Don't reinvent a question I never asked, fool.
    "Happiness is the only logical goal in life" - that is a ridiculous thing to say. There are many competing goals and drives and happiness is not the ultimate one. Do scientists, astronomists, cosmologists etc work hard investigating the universe and formulating new theories solely for the purpose of happiness? Do Prime-Ministerial elects stand for office solely for happiness? Does everybody work towards happiness everytime?

    What happens when we have achieved this happiness? Are we then wondering? Don't know where to go? Stagnate?

    It is you who have avoided the question.

    Still, "better" in what sense?
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    (Original post by Sovr'gnChancellor£)
    "Happiness is the only logical goal in life" - that is a ridiculous thing to say. There are many competing goals and drives and happiness is not the ultimate one. Do scientists, astronomists, cosmologists etc work hard investigating the universe and formulating new theories solely for the purpose of happiness? Do Prime-Ministerial elects stand for office solely for happiness? Does everybody work towards happiness everytime?

    What happens when we have achieved this happiness? Are we then wondering? Don't know where to go? Stagnate?

    It is you who have avoided the question.

    Still, "better" in what sense?
    Erm yes because it makes them happy, one way or another. It is as elf evident principle. Happiness is not a plateau. As you said, it is a physical state that fluctuates in degrees.

    "What is a more logical goal in life than happiness"
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    (Original post by Fumblenuts91)
    Weed is better.
    Ummm...no.

    Weed gives you psychosis, and is 4x more carcinogenic that cigarettes. And it's only ever good for chilling out with.
    Alcohol isn't good for you, but not to the same extent as weed (if used in moderation), it is easy to use it without being sucked into other intoxicants, and it's good for going out.
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    (Original post by SteveCrain)
    Erm yes because it makes them happy, one way or another. It is as elf evident principle. Happiness is not a plateau. As you said, it is a physical state that fluctuates in degrees.

    "What is a more logical goal in life than happiness"
    "Logical"? - You are not exactly logical whilst drinking are you? And I suppose being logical is being "good"?

    Please, do explain to me how happiness is a logical goal? I can certainly explain to you how happiness is a logical means (at least for me anyway).
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    (Original post by Sovr'gnChancellor£)
    "Logical"? - You are not exactly logical whilst drinking are you? And I suppose being logical is being "good"?
    You are conflating the issues. The question was, is happiness the logical goal, then you throw being drunk in there to confuse yourself.
    I will communicate to you via PM and show you your errors. You need to sort your head out.
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    no. religion doesnt permit it. thank gosh, or id probably always be drunk hahaha
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    (Original post by SteveCrain)
    You are conflating the issues. The question was, is happiness the logical goal, then you throw being drunk in there to confuse yourself.
    I will communicate to you via PM and show you your errors. You need to sort your head out.
    I think that you are evading the questions.

    The reason why I cannot answer your question in a straightforward manner is because I am trying to get you to expand on your question and actually show you that you are just asking something that is actually a greater question than it seems.

    You say that "what is a more logical goal in life than happiness" - again, logical in what sense? And how can happiness be a goal? Surely a means to another goal, as I said.

    The current society seems to say all of these things about "happiness" etc - but nobody ever seems to address it right down to its root.
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    First year of Uni was when I was more exposed to alcohol, and I drank solely to get drunk, so I was drinking Vodka and Jaegermeister... Things I didn't enjoy in the slightest! I used to try my best to disguise the taste of the alcohol that was present in my drink.

    In 2nd year I've 'matured' as such, I realised how much I enjoy the taste of rum (virtually any rum) and so instead of disguising the taste, I embrace it, and I drink so much less but I enjoy it so much more!
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    8 pages - what an accomplishment.

    (Note to self - sex and now alcohol gain publicity.)
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    (Original post by Sovr'gnChancellor£)
    8 pages - what an accomplishment.

    (Note to self - sex and now alcohol gain publicity.)
    :stupid:
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    (Original post by Sovr'gnChancellor£)
    I have fun whilst doing competitive sports or hanging with mates, but alcohol seems to create an illusory "fun"..

    Can you seriously tell me that the same fun that I have in competitive sports and hanging with mates will be the same as drinking alcohol?
    Get off your high horse.

    (Original post by Sovr'gnChancellor£)
    Happy? More like it temporarily blinds you to the issues that need solving and is similar to religion (the opium of the people), no?

    Alcohol, what a waste.
    Do there have to be issues? Perhaps nice food is a waste also because it takes time and effort to put together, but having said that the fact that some people indulge and enjoy it doesn't matter, still a waste no?

    (Original post by Sovr'gnChancellor£)
    A similar video could be made about an life with alcohol and the voice-over could be monotonic and robotic too :rolleyes:

    Not drinking alcohol does NOT equal a boring person :facepalm:
    Perhaps thats true, but you're not helping that stereotype at all buddy :rolleyes:.

    (Original post by Sovr'gnChancellor£)
    No need to get annoyed - have I torn down your wall of "fun". I didn't infringe on your sense of security and warmth, no?
    High horse, get off please. You're no better than anyone else so don't be condescending. It will earn you no respect here.

    (Original post by Sovr'gnChancellor£)
    Correct me if I am wrong - but is alcohol not harmful to one's health in the long-term..? :curious:
    Over-consumption. Moderation you see? It is said to be beneficial when used in moderation.

    (Original post by Sovr'gnChancellor£)
    Ah, you tried to get me there, but no - tea is disgusting. I don't need coffee - it is negligible, of no use to me. :dontknow:
    Tea is disgusting? :eek: I've heard enough, somebody lock this threat immediately please!
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    (Original post by tufc)
    Ummm...no.

    Weed gives you psychosis, and is 4x more carcinogenic that cigarettes. And it's only ever good for chilling out with.
    Alcohol isn't good for you, but not to the same extent as weed (if used in moderation), it is easy to use it without being sucked into other intoxicants, and it's good for going out.
    Ummm...no.

    There is no evidence AT ALL that weed gives you psychosis. That stuff about it being 4x more carcinogenic than cigarettes is the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen, and only idiots move on to harder drugs through weed.

    Next time you try and get into an argument about cannabis, make sure you find some sources to back up your claims.

    You won't though. Because they don't exist. Weed has been shown to not make you any more likely to get cancer, and to be less addictive and physically harmful than both alcohol AND tobacco. Not to mention its medical uses. (It is prescribed to cancer patients.)

    You're a moron.

    http://www.significancemagazine.org/...nd-Part-2.html
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1277837/
    http://www.webmd.com/lung-cancer/new...to-lung-cancer
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    A 1/2 liter of sake and 2 mg xanax and all my troubles disappear for 12 hours. It's the closest I'll get to heaven unless this singularity/mind uploading business works out before I croak.
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    grrrr Im drunk :P
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    I'm 16 and I enjoy drinking with my friends, also since most of them are 18 they can buy me drinks
    I don't drink on a daily basis but if we go out and there's alcohol avaliable and I have enough money then I'll prolly get a drink.
    Also at house parties I don't hold back and get pretty drunk (I know it's bad for my health but I'm prepared to take the risk).

    I mainly drink alco-pops (smirnoff ice, bacardi breezers), cider, vodka and rum. Mmm vodka and coke.
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    I am still drunk right now, I definitely want to cut back to only drinking at weekends and smaller amounts. I'm actually quite concerned for myself
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    (Original post by Sovr'gnChancellor£)
    Do you drink alcohol? Why do you drink alcohol? Is it "fun"?

    British society seems to have alcohol as socialising, especially amongst young people.

    However, there are many cons (health wise!) to drinking alcohol - surely you would be better off without it?

    For those who do drink it (to socialise or just by themselves) - why do you do it? Do you do it to drown your sorrows? Lose yourselves? Have "fun"? How can it be fun?

    Discuss and identify your views here.
    Sure I do.

    Why? Because after a 14-hour shift in work on an urgent solution, I feel like coming home and having a pint of ale with some TV before getting a bit of kip. I have a pint every now and then to relax.

    Sometimes I'll go to the pub and socialise - although not for me, for many people, it helps bring them out of their shell.

    Finally, if it's a mate's birthday or something to celebrate, might go for a night out, but probably done that twice or three times this term. That's more to please a mate, and it takes a lot to get me drunk, so I don't end up drinking too much.

    Sure there are health cons, but on the flipside, 2 glasses of red wine a night can do the world of good and isn't considered binge drinking. A lot of people say that it's worse than other drugs, and sure it is, but let's be honest, you have to drink a lot of it regularly or copious amounts at once for such things to take effect.

    I drink a pint here and there to relax and chill, and more importantly, because I love the taste of ale. I don't drink to drown my sorrows (hey, what's the point in sorrows? Be happy!), or to "lose myself", or to "have fun". I can understand why many people would say it's fun though - it has some interesting effects.

    Have no problem with people who don't drink, or those who drink plenty, providing they're considerate of others.
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    (Original post by a_t)
    It is quite fun

    The clearest illustration of this is the fact that people who don't drink never have good stories

    Though it's not entirely true, in the vast majority of cases... Yeah.


    I drink alcohol because, shock ****ing horror, I like the taste of many alcoholic beverages, and I enjoy being drunk.


    I really don't understand why this question gets asked all the ****ing time. Well, I get the OP asking it here, because he's the greatest tool known to internets, but yeah.
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    i dont drink either and i agree with you i dont want to be hated on but yeah quite a few of my friends drink and i hear quite interesting stories but to tell you the truth it dont phase me because A) like you said it Damages you B) it is temporary happiness
 
 
 
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